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Player one sometimes not reset to zero

By Lambecka

6 years ago


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#1 6 years ago

After full restoration of my bally air aces the following problem occurs.
Everything works fine , but sometimes the score for player one does fully reset to zero.
You can hear the machine reset but not fully, there stays point om counter one, but machine stops en you can play again.
Its does not keep running as normal,when points are not on zero, but fully resets the machine .exept some point on counter one.
This problem does not occurs evertytime, but now and then.
Hope someone can help me

#2 6 years ago

First place to look is the switches on the offending unit that should change when the unit moves to the zero position for out of adjustment .

#3 6 years ago

Already did and they looks ok. When its ok you hear normalt the reset two times and evertything is on zere,
In case of fault you hear only one time reset

#4 6 years ago
Quoted from Lambecka:

Already did and they looks ok.

Look OK or test OK?

#5 6 years ago

Test ok .
Strange is that normaly when one of the scores not reset till zero, the motor keeps running, but in this case it stops and give gameover. Ist only the scorereel for one player causes the problem

#6 6 years ago

The Reset relay should hold until all 16 score wheels are at 0. Does it?

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#7 6 years ago

Thats exact the problem from score reel one they are not on zero but relay stops while score reel one is not on zero yet.

#8 6 years ago

Strange that reset relay stops while firstplayer score wheel is not on zero.

#9 6 years ago

Check the 19 switches highlighted here...

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#10 6 years ago

When you're playing does it count fine? It knows when it goes all around to make the next one advance? I had a different machine do something similar, where the mech would slip so it wouldn't rotate the reel. Does your reel spin when it's resetting? And if it is it just keeps spinning then? I had to clean the parts on my score reel and when I put it back together it worked great, reset fine and everything. Before it would keep trying to reset but couldn't.

#11 6 years ago

It counts fine and when resetting it counts down as well, but not fully. As i said it happens not always.
You van hear it on the machine when happens.
Normal resetting to zero goed. Tak tak tak and again tak tak tak and itd on zeo
When fails it goes only tak tak tak and stops.
It does als does not keeping trying to,reset.it simply stops and can start new game while,still point om the reel

#12 6 years ago

Howard,
After checking the 19 switches as you show me on picture of the scheme, finally found a broken switch on second reel of player one. Difficult to see and find, but when trying to adjusted felt off.
Thanks for your input and having patience with me, but you know when it is not working properly feels bad.
Almost finished with this project and machine works 98 percent ok.
One thing still not working are the left and right return lines , playfield indicates that extra score when lit, but they never lit.
Have no scheme to figure out how they operate

Albert

#13 6 years ago
Quoted from Lambecka:

playfield indicates that extra score when lit

Are you sure? This pic says "Special When Lit" http://ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=28&picno=14419&zoom=1
Schematic is here http://mirror2.ipdb.org/files/28/Bally_1975_Air_Aces_Schematic_Diagram_continuous.pdf
The Special return lanes are lit by the Special Lite relay

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#14 6 years ago

Howard, yes you right it read special when lit.
Many thanks for all your help and the extra info given
Your help very much appreciated
Regards
Albert

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