(Topic ID: 170668)

Player 1 gets everyone's points?

By MasterBroshi

7 years ago



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#1 7 years ago

I have an odd problem. I manually have to switch between player 1 and player 2. But even then it only awards points to player 1. I also can't get it to cycle past ball 1 on any players.

#2 7 years ago

What game???

#3 7 years ago

Hi MasterBroshi
great, ipdb has manual and schematics: http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=2398
You write about player-1 and player-2 --- question: Do You have ?: http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=2452 ?

Maybe (hopefully) Your "odd problem" is a simple problem. Williams and Bally have the so-called "Ball-Index-Relay" - it is mounted in the Cabinet on the bottom board - usually on the left, usually "rather away from the player". Williams and Bally are generous - when You launch a given ball AND immediately afterwardsYou lose the ball NOT making a point: SAME ball (same player) is given again. For to handle this the "Ball-Index-Relay" was invented - At the time You make the first points: "Ball-Index-Relay" pulls-in - STAYS pulling - You loose the ball (STILL pulling) - the "Brain of the pin" says: "Ball-Index-Relay IS pulling - I am entitled to step to next ball / next player".

And when Your "Ball-Index-Relay" is (faulty) NOT pulling - when it comes to "stepping to next ball / next player": The brain of the pin says: "NOT pulling - therefore I give the SAME ball.

Look in Your pin - look at the Ball-Index-Relay - make some points - question: Does the Relay pull-in and stay pulling ? IF (if) "No": You have found the problem, IF (if) "Yes": STILL the "Switch on the relay (to tell the brain of the pin) can be faulty NOT beeing closed, contact-points on that Switch may be oxidated, wire on the switch may be broken-off (?). Greetings Rolf

#4 7 years ago

Likely Williams Strato-Flite

#5 7 years ago

I recently ran into issues with my 71 bally where it scored points for both players at the same time randomly, problem was the make/ break player RE switches not gapped properly

#6 7 years ago

can I be player one?

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