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Player 1-4 fault in gottlieb jungle

By Lambecka

6 years ago


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#1 6 years ago

Following strange thing happens in my gottlieb jungle
Playing game with 2,3 or 4 players everything is fine no problem.
Starting game for one player following happens. Shooting first ball and points gathered are going to score reel 1, when launching second ball lights switch over to score reel player two and point going to that score reel. Launching ball three lights swith back to score reel player one and point are going to tha score reel. After that game over. Machine is on a three ball game

#3 6 years ago
Quoted from HowardR:

When playing a one player game, the Add Player unit coil should activate 4 times every time the ball drains. If not, have a look at this circuit.

Howard, it activates four times after draining ball two, but draining ball one it only goes one and lights player two.

#5 6 years ago

Thanks Howard,
Problem is i do not have any schematic or manuals from this machine, but ive checked the circuit as you mentioned and cleaned the player unit. Problem solved
Thanks

#8 6 years ago

Sorry guys i was in the understanding problem was solved, but after cleaning contacts of add player unit it changed into following:
Stil when playing multiple players game no problem at all
But playing one player game its steps now five times after playing ball one so ends up that player two light starts and points goes to,player two., third ball is back on one and ends the three balls game.
So, before,its,steps two player two in one step and now,same but it steps five times

#10 6 years ago
Quoted from HowardR:

The new problem is in the circuit I posted above.

Howard,
Understand, makes it difficult that circuit works, its only one step too much, for some reason the player unit goes too far, so must be one of the contacts of that unit.
Will try to clean/grind

#12 6 years ago
Quoted from rolf_martin_062:

Hi Lambecka
look here https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/wont-start-new-game#post-4078734 - look ONLY at the JPG and the small picture in the JPG --- the green line is an extension of "Switchstack actuated - on the black, fifth cam". You start a game and after resetting the ball is kicked over to the shooter-alley.By now - DOES cam-5 actuate / lift its switchstack ? If "Yes": The pin is in Home-Position - also called Position-Zero. And now look at the switchstack on the second "white Nylon cam (cam-2)" - on the stack count from the center outbound: Switch-A, -B, C, D, E, F, G --- "Switch on cam-2 - the G-Switch" is in HowardR 's schematics (post-2): "Switch P2G" with wire-slate-mingled-with-black, wire-white-green --- IS THIS SWITCH (by now, pin has reached Home-Position) TRUELY open ?
When You get ball three, the last ball in a ONE-Player-Game - DOES the Double-Bonus-Light on the Playfield between the flipper-bats lights-up ? Greetings Rolf

Hi
I need to check, and need some time to do it, but the last sentence is can say yesthe double light bonus lights up everytime the last ball has passed,
What does,that mean???

#14 6 years ago
Quoted from rolf_martin_062:

Hi Lambecka
I would like to wait until You checked the "P2G" switch - the following is somewhat a chat / history. You started Your topic - I did some thinking - HowardR wrote his post-2 - I agree with him. I would like to have back the problem You wrote about in post-1.
A topic was in discussion - do not read it as it is about a TWO-Player problem: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/wont-start-new-game To the problem there I once was studying the schematics and was working on a post --- before I could post my writing: The OP reported his problem as solved --- (grumble) - I worked a bit on my text and created a "topic on its own" : https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-activating-of-lb-double-bonus-relay-gottlieb-4-player-pin --- I believe (believe) that there is a difference in activating the "Double Bonus on last ball" - an 2,3,4-Player-Game is handled different than an ONE-Player-Game (?).
So I said to me "I do ask Lambecka about the activating of Double Bonus" - maybe I can use his answer - use for troubleshooting in "Lambecka's problem".
SteveFury made an excellent topic - https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/em-pinball-circuits-basics-to-not-so-basic and in post-52, 53, 54 !!! he shows stepping on an Gottlieb Player-Unit --- maybe I add on my newly started topic something alike - using the second , generic snippet.
I would like to wait until You checked the "P2G" switch - greetings Rolf

Rolf,
Here are my findings from this morning:
Started one player game and first ball is in the shooter alley
Position of the black disc switch stack is,lifted
Position of second disc top switch lifted to,close. See picture switch 1 closed. Switch numbered 2 lifted to open.
And confirm that when get last ball in one player game double bonus light between flippers lights up

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#16 6 years ago

Rolf , problem solved, let me explain what i did
Followed your instructions, and found switch p2g closed in the home position.
According your instructions playing unit in position one, and i watched what happens with Cam 2, and switch P2G came up in closed position.
Back to home position and switch P2G still closed. Bended the switch a little up so it cam in the open position.
Started game an problem solved. Checked one player game and multiple player game and all are ok.
Only thing i noticed is that the double bonus lights up when playing ball three and in multiple game it stays lit if loosing ball and goes to,next player. It only lights with bal three.
Question, is this part of the game?. I suppose
Albert

#18 6 years ago

Rolf,
Thanks for very clear explanation and the extra info,given
Albert

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