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Pinsound: Indiana Jones Reorchestration released


By Endprodukt

4 years ago



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#1 4 years ago

Hi guys,

I finally released a 0.9v of my IJ (Williams) Reorchestration for the Pinsound Board. I'm pretty burned out on this one. I promise I'll finish it to 1.0 (it's just missing very few sounds and 2 jingles and some loudness fixes as far as I remember) but right now my Studio is booked until march and I really need to work on something else right now.

This is a pretty spot on reorchestration for IJ. All the sounds you know and love (or hate) are there - all in beautiful 44.1khz 16bit CD Stereo quality.

What was done?

- Searching the COMPLETE OST for all the small loops that get used during gameplay and cutting them

- Reorchestrating all the loops, fanfares (jingles) that are not in the movies at all (most jingles, some of the music like tank chase or well of souls)

- Enhancing the SFX or recreating it from the ground up (with original sounds from the movies [bluray editions]) (173 Files!!!!)

- Searching for all the speech samples in the movies, cutting it, cleaning it from the 5.1 source (as far as possible). I also added many new speech samples that weren't in the game before. I also enhanced the sound of the original Sallah samples that were only recorded for the pinball machine. 189 Samples now instead of 89 originally!

Since some people don't know what the pinsound board is... please go here: www.pinsound.org

You will need the board to use my sounds. No, you don't need extra roms. Simply replace the original WPC DCS board in your machine.

I do recommend a stereo upgrade for your machine with two identical Hifi speakers for best possible stereo field. This requires some hacking. You won't regret it. Pinsound also sells a wiring harness for this upgrade.

You can download my reorchestration for free at www.pinsound-community.org.

Take a listen to my preview here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5bjfvpslqaz21t0/Indy%200.9%20Preview.mp3?dl=0

I made this in my spare time and it took 250+ hours. If you like my work and you want to support me I'm happy about any donations. White Water will be up next with complete new speech spoken by Warren Davis, the original voice of Wet Willy.

You may want to check out my other mix for Terminator 2:

Or the OST Version

Any comments, feedback and constructive criticism are welcome.

#2 4 years ago

Just listened to it! WOW! That is amazing work you did....

I actually have an IJ....VERY tempting...hmmm

#3 4 years ago

Do it. You wont be disapointed. Features are up ahead that I can't talk too much about now... but this will be the perfect mod (with a Color DMD) for the IJ. I love it in my machine!

Also... if people are tired of the rather short loops of the music (I like it somehow)... you can always use the OST version that someone made on the pinsound-community board and mix it with my sounds.

#4 4 years ago

Sounds AWESOME. I'm just trying to get over paying the ~350 for the pinsound board.... not to mention I still want a ColorDMD in mine.

#5 4 years ago

Plus add a subwoofer! (which I already have)...and the color DMD (which I already have) like you said and it would be a KILLER IJ! Very, very tempting!

#6 4 years ago

As previously promised, I'll be getting mine when I get my machine back. Wonderful work, and thanks for all your efforts!

#7 4 years ago
Quoted from oopsallberrys:

I'm just trying to get over paying the ~350 for the pinsound board

Yeah I hear you...all of these mods add up and quick especially when you have a lot of games.

But I am sure Endprodukt put in hours and hours and hours into this effort for the pinball community.

#8 4 years ago

Are these shipping now? It says February. I'll order one when my credit card rolls over at the end of the month.

#9 4 years ago

I think they got the boards now and test them as we speak. They will probably ship soon!

#10 4 years ago

Alright, I gave in and ordered a Pinsound board, this just sounds way too good to not have in my machine.

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#11 4 years ago

Let us know how it is. I won't see my machine until the summer.

#12 4 years ago

Guys over at Pinsound have been so nice to make a preview youtube video - it contains the same music I posted, though.

#13 4 years ago

Getting my machine soon and definitely on my list along with color DMD. Will you be doing more and more updates? Do you send out blasts informing of new updates?

#14 4 years ago

Well... I'm close to be done so the next release will be 1.0

If there is something I don't like I might change it in the future and let people know. I'm also open to suggestions - but I actually wont go back into the sounds themselves. Volume, extras, whishes...

Right now... I'm waiting for Chris Granner... he might redo one of most satisfying sounds of the machine for us... no, not billions... I'd love to have one of the sounds redone by him.

2 weeks later
#15 4 years ago

Uploading an Update right now. It comes with a config.ini with my custom ducking settings. Please read the txt file I provided.

Since the last version this is what happened:

- Recut almost all the "gun" sfx as there was some delay with certain sounds when targets are hit (I simply didn't cut right at the transient the first time I did it)

- Reorchestrated "Three Challenges" instead of using the OST... now it's the fast "Granner-Version" which I prefer

- Reorchestrated "Steal The Stones" to sound like Granners version instead of the OST

- Reorchestrated "Choose Wisely" with a choir, organs to sound like Granners version instead of the OST.

- Reorchestrated the "You have chosen wisely" jingle that was just the voice in the last version. Now with choir and drum etc.

- MANY MANY MANY volume fixes

- Less bass in the droptarget boom so your house wont fall apart.

This update should be available soon at Pinsound-Community.org

Please let me know what you think!

#16 4 years ago

Almost done. Basicaly one jingle and a few tweaks left.

#17 4 years ago

Fantastic work on this Endprodukt, only thing I'm worried about is this might nudge IJ prices even higher!

#18 4 years ago

Thanks node! I'm glad people like it!

#19 4 years ago

Between this and the ColorDmd, 'might' nudge higher?

After my restoration gets underway, I'm gonna have a 10K IJ !!

#20 4 years ago

Don't see anything wrong with a 10k IJ... I have mine and it's far away from beeing a 10k IJ.... I shouldn't share my work... maybe it would be a 10k IJ then... muaha.

#21 4 years ago
Quoted from Endprodukt:

Don't see anything wrong with a 10k IJ... I have mine and it's far away from beeing a 10k IJ.... I shouldn't share my work... maybe it would be a 10k IJ then... muaha.

Lol. Smart AND a sense of humor? Alright...

Any plans on stern pins in the future?

#22 4 years ago
Quoted from underlord:

Lol. Smart AND a sense of humor? Alright...
Any plans on stern pins in the future?

The Pinsound Board isn't compatible with Stern Pins and I don't think it can be. I also don't know if the Pinsound Team (Nicolas and Timothee) plan to make one for Stern games in the future.

What I can say is: Unless someone seriously pays me to do it, I won't do pins I don't own. It's just too much work doing it the way I do it. I'm constantly contacting Chris Granner (THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!!!), I contact voice actors or even the original actors... I collect donations to pay them. And besides that... I reorchestrate... which means most of the time I'm listening and searching for fitting sounds.

Audio Engineering is what I also do for a living so... yeah, It's one part fun, one part job, one part "I want my pins to sound better and maybe other people like it".

#23 4 years ago
Quoted from Endprodukt:

The Pinsound Board isn't compatible with Stern Pins and I don't think it can be. I also don't know if the Pinsound Team (Nicolas and Timothee) plan to make one for Stern games in the future.
What I can say is: Unless someone seriously pays me to do it, I won't do pins I don't own. It's just too much work doing it the way I do it. I'm constantly contacting Chris Granner (THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!!!), I contact voice actors or even the original actors... I collect donations to pay them. And besides that... I reorchestrate... which means most of the time I'm listening and searching for fitting sounds.
Audio Engineering is what I also do for a living so... yeah, It's one part fun, one part job, one part "I want my pins to sound better and maybe other people like it".

Your work is greatly appreciated!

#24 4 years ago

Hi, you mentioned on the Pinsound forum that it is John Rhys-Davies who calls out "collect everything!" At the start of eternal life multiball - it is definitely not, his voice is not deep enough, it's totally different, and doesn't sound like any of the actors. I got to hear it last night again, and I think it might be one of the programmers. Anyway, does anyone know? Sorry if this is kinda off topic.
I'm looking forward to hearings some more reviews of the Pinsound board and this mix before I take the plunge as with the currency at the moment it's pretty expensive. The work put into this reorchestration seems massive and I'm hoping to experience it one day.

#25 4 years ago
Quoted from dluth:

Hi, you mentioned on the Pinsound forum that it is John Rhys-Davies who calls out "collect everything!" At the start of eternal life multiball - it is definitely not, his voice is not deep enough, it's totally different, and doesn't sound like any of the actors. I got to hear it last night again, and I think it might be one of the programmers. Anyway, does anyone know? Sorry if this is kinda off topic.
I'm looking forward to hearings some more reviews of the Pinsound board and this mix before I take the plunge as with the currency at the moment it's pretty expensive. The work put into this reorchestration seems massive and I'm hoping to experience it one day.

Contacted Chris Granner today. At first he said "It's Davies" without listening to it. I told him I wasn't sure after listening back so I sent him the file. His response: "Wow, I am totally not sure. I will ask around."

That's what he's doing now. Then he said "I thought it was me at the beginning of the line, but then at the end I didn't think so. I've sent a query to Brian Eddy & Mark Ritchie, hope one of them remembers."

I'll let you know

#26 4 years ago

v0.97 will be up soon on pinsound-community.org (within the next 24h)

Updates:

- volume fixes
- done some sfx that was missing
- narrow escape
- fixes fixes fixes

#27 4 years ago
Quoted from Endprodukt:

Contacted Chris Granner today. At first he said "It's Davies" without listening to it. I told him I wasn't sure after listening back so I sent him the file. His response: "Wow, I am totally not sure. I will ask around."
That's what he's doing now. Then he said "I thought it was me at the beginning of the line, but then at the end I didn't think so. I've sent a query to Brian Eddy & Mark Ritchie, hope one of them remembers."
I'll let you know

Thanks for asking. Amazing you've got a direct line to such a legend! Looking forward to hopefully hearing an answer - it's always bugged me as it is the one voice in the game that doesn't sound like it's any of the actors.

#28 4 years ago

It's interesting that granner and I were so sure it's Davies until giving it another listen.

Brian Eddy can't remember. Waiting for others to answer.

#30 4 years ago

your work is great!

installed the board 2 days ago

#31 4 years ago

Thanks! I'm glad you like it! Another update coming soon!

#32 4 years ago

i only noticed that when the machine is realy loud and bass for the

Pinball fidelity subwoofer high

the soundboard amp hast a 0,5 sec mute

may be this speakers need to much power when the subwoofer is very active?

#33 4 years ago

Someone else had the exact same problem! Please contact the pinsound guys about it!

1 week later
#34 4 years ago

Endprodukt, did you take this down from the Pinsound community page? I don't see it listed anymore for download.

#35 4 years ago
Quoted from oopsallberrys:

Endprodukt, did you take this down from the Pinsound community page? I don't see it listed anymore for download.

All of his sound packages have been removed, since Rick has threatened him. Who knows if they'll ever be available again.

#36 4 years ago

I took them down. Yes. Not because I wanted. I think most of the rights of this one belong to Disney anyway...

#37 4 years ago

Found out it's in a grey zone of Copyrights so Williams doesn't own everything.

#38 4 years ago

Is that good or bad?

#39 4 years ago

So if I get the board I cannot get the files?

#40 4 years ago

Sh$t I bought a board and was going to download for my Indiana Jones on Friday this is the only reason I got the board does anyone have this file ?

#41 4 years ago

F%#king rick now I am really pissed off

#42 4 years ago
Quoted from DeeGor:

Is that good or bad?

Doesn't mean anything. Just a fact. Won't help though. I still need their permission.

#43 4 years ago

I need the IJ files for my pinsound board, if someone's willing to help a brother out.

#44 4 years ago

Why doesn't Rick just buy the Pinsound boys out, and start offering the board preloaded. Fking no-brainer in my view.

#45 4 years ago

Rick has no content for the boards.

My be Enduser sells his package to him for 10K or so ?

then he can put it online and sell it.

#46 4 years ago

Yes, or even better, Rick HIRES people to put the packages together, creating a few pinball related jobs and kicks off a bit of an industry reorchestrating all these old soundtracks. Just like remastering albums. Get some activity going in the space lest ye be seen as a continual c@ckblocker.

#47 4 years ago

I'm in the same boat as RazerX, if someone could help us out I would be very grateful.

#48 4 years ago

Wow, makes me not want to buy a pinsound board. Had been thinking about it for a Flash Gordon upgrade to include clips form the movie, etc.

#49 4 years ago

Guys. Please stop asking for the files on the forum. Might be very contra productive.

6 months later
#50 3 years ago

I'm just doing a huge update to the IJ Reorchestration. Compressing and limiting all the vocals to be exactly the same in volume... also doing some other updates to the whole package. Too bad I can't release it.

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