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Pinsound Board Reviews? Anyone?

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#928 7 years ago

Here's my Indy after restoring for 18 month.

• PinSound
• Color-DMD
• Speaker Panel rebuilt like Prototype
• Visaton Speaker
• Clearcoated Playfield
• Euro Coin Controller
• Non-Reflecting Glass
• Shaker Drive
• Illuminated Path Of Adventure
• some Modifications

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#940 6 years ago

Shaker support is included again and you need to download new PinSound-Studio as well.
Older existing Soundtracks need to be rearranged, then Shaker is working again over the extension port.

#946 6 years ago

You need to connect to the extension port, that supplies 5 volt.
With these 5 volts you have to switch a relay that switch 12 volt to the shaker motor.
And it's recommended to use a rev regulation for the motor, too.
Don't connect the PinSound-Board directly to the 12 Volt motor!
In the PinSound-Studio Version 09 you can adjust the timing for the shaker motor in milliseconds for each sound you want the shaker turned on if played.
So, if you want the motor shaking at a special sound you have to enter the time how long the 5 volts from the PinSound-Board need to switch the relay. Each time the sound is activated, the relay will switch the shaker motor on and off.
For all these modification you MUST have a separate power supply with 12 volt and 10 ampere to reduce the power consumption of Indys power supply because high electric current will occur in odd resets of the pinball machine.

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The small board on the right is the 5 volt relay (two circuit) with the connector from the PinSound-Board on it.
Left you see the adjustable rev limiter.
In front of the shaker box I have mounted the separate power supply for stable 12 volt for the shaker motor and the PinSound-Board.
The shaker motor is switchable, maybe more practical for service or repair.

#951 6 years ago

For my understanding PWM-Method is canceled and maybe oversized.
The extension port is placed in the middle of the board and you can switch two channels with it.
There are four pins in it, two pins for each channel.
For instance you can switch a shaker an channel A and/or a fog-machine or lightshow an channel B.
Both channel switch 5 volt.
A separate power supply is necessary not only for Indy... all pinball machines can get in trouble if the power supply is being overloaded and then they will reset or burn the connectors/wiring.
I bought my relay and rev limiter at ebay for a good price ~7 Euros each.

#953 6 years ago

Missing detection of USB is caused by the USB itself - I use another one that is more high grade.
The one delivered with the PinSound-Board is low cost scrap.
Another reason is instabile 12 volt power supply to the PinSound-Board and in game play sound often interrupts or USB flash drive is missing!
Since using separate power supply no more errors occur and PinSound-Board is working well.

#955 6 years ago

I use a small stick from Intenso Slim Line with 8 GB.

#959 6 years ago

USB is 2.0 only.

A rev limiter is a variable resistor for the shaker motor to decrease the voltage.
You can adjust how fast or with what rotational speed the motor should run.
My motor is able to turn 12.000 times a minute and to prevent damage of an disintegrating shaker unit I decide to limit the rotational speed.

#961 6 years ago

Yes, that's the right spot and you can see the notation A and B for the two channels.
Here you get the 5 volt you need to switch a relay for your Extension you want to control.

#972 6 years ago

You can build your own cheap customized shaker for any Pinball like I did.
Just look some posts before, it's not so difficult.

1 month later
#1013 6 years ago

Should be supported since last EXPO where they had announced to provide a whitestar kit?

#1016 6 years ago

This will take a while and that's the reason some pinheads use their custom made shakers.

#1019 6 years ago

You have to consider, that the shaker code is integrated in the actual update.
PinSound just wants to sell their own complete shaker drive - plug and play.
For me it's oversized and I decided to built my own Shaker - it works.
PinSound supports a great possibilty with their newest PinSound-Studio to run custom made shaker and other equipment.

#1021 6 years ago

The user Endprodukt was the first person who talked to PinSound and to integrate a simple code to switch a 5 volt circuit on or off if a special sound is played.
This feature was available on firmware version 0006 only and is no more supported later.
Actually with firmware 0068 another procedure is integrated to use a shaker in a similar way but you need the newest PinSound-Studio where you can toggle a switch on or off and where you can limit the time how long the circuit is switched.
It works.

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#1089 6 years ago

Shaker Support is already implemented, take a closer look into the new PinSound-Studio an the two expansion connectors on the board.
Then think about it and try playing with the adjustments.
I use that function in my Indy and it works very well.
Just keep in mind that PinSound-Board provides 5 Volt only on the expansion connectors, so you have to use a relay between Board and Shaker.

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#1091 6 years ago

You trigger the Shaker by the PinSound-Studio (V0.9). There's a small menu below where you can turn on the 5 volt of the expansion connector (Channel 1 or Channel 2) in milliseconds.
That's all, and all you have to do is to switch the Shaker of what Sound is currently playing.
For instance you want the Shaker run if you pull the trigger, you have to search for the Sound in the PinSound-Studio and switch on the expansion connector you want and how long you want.

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#1101 6 years ago

Lots of WPC have that issue in combination with DMD and PinSound - I use an external power supply for PinSound and Shaker Drive. DMD is connector to standard supply - no resets, no errors.

#1103 6 years ago

Yes, and you should prepare more power for a possible Shaker driven by PinSound-Board. I use stabilized 12 Volt and 10 Ampere.

4 months later
#1191 6 years ago

Well, if all you are happy with the Endprodukt-Remix - thing about and donate to honour his undoubted work!
He really did a very well Job.

#1195 6 years ago

Thank you guys, very appreciated.

#1198 6 years ago

Development is still in progress... but Shaker and other stuff can be driven by Firmware 0090 and PinSound-Studio via Channel A (5V Relay).
Nicolas told me, next update will support Channel B for LED stripes or something else.
I have prepared my Indy and wait for the update, then Channel A will switch om Shaker and Channel B will switch a LED Stripe beneath Backbox.
My new project "Terminator 2" will be equipped exactly the same.

3 weeks later
#1244 6 years ago

Unfortunately there's no more link to the PinSound-Studio Software.
I have to ask Nicolas, what the intension is or if there's another version available soon?
My idea was to support channel B of the older boards to use LED-Stripes or something similar.
Channel A is always working and can be used for shaker drive, etc.
And I hope we will get that last support for the older boards!

#1246 6 years ago

Nicolas told me, that there's a firmware revision and a new Studio-Software available, soon.
Both types of boards will support channel A and B of the extension connector.
PinSound will also release their own shaker assembly, then it will be much more easier for all the customers to have a shaker in their Pinball Machines.
At all you need the PinSound-Studio Software to swich on the shaker if a sound is played by the PinSound-Board.

#1250 6 years ago

Today he told me, that both Boards will support channel A and B.
We have to wait for Firmware update and PinSound-Studio Revision.
Don't worry, you can use the PinSound-Shaker if available soon, or custom made like I did.

1 year later
#1480 5 years ago

Digital Equalizer, sort of Bullshit!!!

4 months later
#1576 4 years ago

I can't believe they are serious with that?

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