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Pinsound Board Reviews? Anyone?

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#1701 2 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Import your sound files using Pinsound studio and have the software write the files tk your USB drive. Or install the board and files manually; I think the board automatically creates the file.
Definitely
Pinsound studio does

The latest version of Pinsound studio does not create the config.pinsound file. If you attempt to open the set of audio folders/files it does nothing. I’m gonna try grabbing the file from the original

#1702 2 years ago

Ok, so dropping the original config.pinsound with the folders/files doesn’t work.

If the original folder numbers are needed then the config.pinsound would be unique to each unique set of prefix number folders.

Either way, I reached out to Nicholas from Pinsound for an answer. I’ve yet to see a detailed doc on the config.pinsound file and how that cordinates all the Music/SFX/Voice/etc to each unique game

#1703 2 years ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

Ok thanks. The concern I have is it appears all the files listed (IE Indiana Jones) have vast differences in folder sctructure names. I read the Pinsound info on folder names and it says everything before the dash needs to be the same, but that isn’t the case in the files I’ve downloaded
I’ll go ahead and grab the default config.pinsound file and drop it into the reorchestrated set I currently have and let you know my findings

In order to convert to the new convention all of the orchestrations were redone and reposted on the site. The older retired convention had shorter numbers and no config for the orchestration. To support the new format, you must upgrade to the latest firmware and copy the newer version of the orchestration to the USB. The same rules apply in that the folder names must keep the new longer number but you can name the rest of the folder and the sound files in them to whatever you want.

One caveat is that you may still have different new orchestrations for the same pin, but they have differing numbering schemes. In this case they will both still work, but the config.pinsound files are not interchangeable. As long as the orchestrations do have the same numbering then the config file is interchangeable. This is quite handy when you do a shakerization for a pin because you only have to do it once then copy the file to other orchestrations for that same game and the shakerization will automatically be applied.

#1704 2 years ago

Would be nice to know how to create our own config.pinsound file though. Still waiting to hear back from Pinsound so I can fix the IJ file

#1705 2 years ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

Would be nice to know how to create our own config.pinsound file though. Still waiting to hear back from Pinsound so I can fix the IJ file

Format is proprietary and confidential, so PinSound will not share the methodology or tools to create your own. What exactly is your issue? Are you working with your own custom orchestration that doesn't work after a firmware update or what? If you are using one of the orchestrations posted on the community forum (http://pinsound-community.org/forum/index.php?/files/category/30-indiana-jones) then you just need to re-download if yours is from a few months or more ago as they should have all been updated to the new format (ignore the submitted/updated date).

If you do re-download and it is still the old format then PM PinSound and they will fix it.

#1706 2 years ago

Sounds like they are working on it now

#1707 2 years ago

Are there psrec files available on the Pinsound community? Thanks.

1 week later
#1708 2 years ago

I have upgraded to the latest firmware and noticed that I now have music that stops as game-sfx and game-speech interrupt the playing music, its almost like the music is 'ducking' the other sounds.

Is there a setting for ducking that I can turn off?

As a result the game now sound horrendous.

3 months later
#1709 2 years ago

Is BTTF already supported? I could not find it on their page.

#1710 2 years ago
Quoted from PeterG:

Is BTTF already supported? I could not find it on their page.

I believe it is the same version pin as other DE games that are listed, so not sure why it is not. I recommend you pm PinSound and ask.

9 months later
#1711 1 year ago

Just finished installing and playing my new Pinsound+ with Fidelity Flipper speakers in Bally Doctor Who. The change is enormous. The sounds are awesome. I have downloaded the custom mixes that others before me have made. I did find that I needed to have the custom mixes on the same thumb drive as the Original sound track. I also found that I should only load the compressed Zip files.

#1712 1 year ago
Quoted from Tophervette:

Just finished installing and playing my new Pinsound+ with Fidelity Flipper speakers in Bally Doctor Who. The change is enormous. The sounds are awesome. I have downloaded the custom mixes that others before me have made. I did find that I needed to have the custom mixes on the same thumb drive as the Original sound track. I also found that I should only load the compressed Zip files.

It IS a gamechanger. Welcome to the club!

1 month later
#1713 1 year ago
Quoted from TheKreator:

I installed one in my WWF Royal Rumble and have replaced all the wrestler themes with their original music, including a few custom sounds and voices and the classic Royal Rumble music from the early '90s during multiball. I was totally blown away by the massive audio improvement even using the original music/sounds and the stock speakers, and now with my custom music applied it's unbelievable! It seemed like an expensive upgrade when I ordered it, but was totally worth it!
Definitely going to get another one for my DE Batman to do a quality movie score and enhanced voice call-outs from cleaned up movie samples.

How hard is it to install your own music? Where did you get the files from? I’m thinking about it for WWF but I’m worried it’s a lot of work. The onboard sound package for WWF is bad and akin to a Shea Genesis game but I don’t know if I’d want to upgrade just to hear the corny music and call outs better so I’m curious about the process of going all the way with it.

#1714 1 year ago
Quoted from swayzewaters:

How hard is it to install your own music? Where did you get the files from? I’m thinking about it for WWF but I’m worried it’s a lot of work. The onboard sound package for WWF is bad and akin to a Shea Genesis game but I don’t know if I’d want to upgrade just to hear the corny music and call outs better so I’m curious about the process of going all the way with it.

Very simple: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tantrums-guide-to-pinsound

#1715 1 year ago

Ks Arcade is out of stock. Any other US distributors?

#1716 1 year ago
Quoted from ToucanF16:

Ks Arcade is out of stock. Any other US distributors?

Just order direct. They are very fast with shipping (the last order I made a few weeks ago only took 8 days to arrive).

#1717 1 year ago

I have one in my getaway with upgraded speakers. Its very nice. Loud and clear vs stock sound system.

I didn’t purchase for my tftc, roadshow and dirty harry due to lack of mix

#1718 1 year ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

Just order direct. They are very fast with shipping (the last order I made a few weeks ago only took 8 days to arrive).

I often order direct (I’ve purchased 20 PinSounds over the years), but like to give distros some business.

#1719 1 year ago
Quoted from ToucanF16:

I often order direct (I’ve purchased 20 PinSounds over the years), but like to give distros some business.

I have a PinSound 1 with the Data East brackets and headphone station w PS1 adapter available, if interested.

#1720 1 year ago

Looking for a Pinsound Stern/whitestar adapter. Does anyone have a spare they are willing to sell?

Thanks!

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#1721 1 year ago
Quoted from Paseb:

I have one in my getaway with upgraded speakers. Its very nice. Loud and clear vs stock sound system.
I didn’t purchase for my tftc, roadshow and dirty harry due to lack of mix

Check out my Road Show OST;

#1722 1 year ago

Dumbass question. Does PinSound work on Stern Spike games?

#1723 1 year ago
Quoted from ToucanF16:

Dumbass question. Does PinSound work on Stern Spike games?

No.

2 weeks later
#1724 1 year ago

Been a while since I did an orchestration. Have a few to finish but thinking of doing something completely different. Was thinking of doing a rockabilly orchestration for Elvis. Some covers but mainly other band music. Have to find some decent songs.

1 month later
#1725 1 year ago

Anyone happen to have the most recent firmware for the pinsound 1 board?

It’s missing from the pinsound website

#1726 1 year ago
Quoted from Chosen_S:

Anyone happen to have the most recent firmware for the pinsound 1 board?
It’s missing from the pinsound website

I have the below for PS1. The 20.06.2 is the latest per their changelog.

(From the filesizes and my hazy memory, I believe you have to be on a new-ish version in order to use the "psrom" incremental updates.)

Let me know if you need any, if the brothers haven't got them back online.

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#1727 1 year ago
Quoted from Blackjacker:

I have the below for PS1. The 20.06.2 is the latest per their changelog.
(From the filesizes and my hazy memory, I believe you have to be on a new-ish version in order to use the "psrom" incremental updates.)
Let me know if you need any, if the brothers haven't got them back online.
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Yes, I need the 2 latest please, I’ll send a pm

#1728 1 year ago

For anyone willing to help ...

I picked up a DE GnR, it has a pinsound 1 board of course. I got the machine set up and fired it up, no sound.

I waited for a while, several hours. No sound, I twisted the pots , checked connections, restarted, pulled the usb, formatted, reinstalled with a zip file of the mix, nothing after hours of letting it work. I tried unzipping a mix and converting the ogg files to wav and letting it sit for hours, then playing with the cabinet pot and large pot that I guess came with pinsound or flipper fidelity speakers.

I only get the blips from the left speaker, no loading sounds, or percentage count.

Anyone have any pointers?

2 months later
#1729 11 months ago

I see Pinsound supports System 11 games. Has anyone done any orchestrations for these types of games? Any reason there is only 1 orchestration in the 7 System 11 games listed in the Pinsound community? Thanks.

#1730 11 months ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

I see Pinsound supports System 11 games. Has anyone done any orchestrations for these types of games? Any reason there is only 1 orchestration in the 7 System 11 games listed in the Pinsound community? Thanks.

Probably because PinSound has been waiting for you to come along and expand the catalog.

I am a little surprised that pins like Rollergames or Radical don't at least have orchestrations - seem like perfect candidates. You can download the original orchestrations from the main site (not the forum), but you are correct in that there don't seem to be any custom orchestrations except the one for Taxi.

#1731 11 months ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

Probably because PinSound has been waiting for you to come along and expand the catalog.
I am a little surprised that pins like Rollergames or Radical don't at least have orchestrations - seem like perfect candidates. You can download the original orchestrations from the main site (not the forum), but you are correct in that there don't seem to be any custom orchestrations except the one for Taxi.

Yes, it is odd the original orchestration is not on the community site. But I did download the Rollergames original file and its structure seems to be very similar to the other DMD games. These would be fun to play around with but likely not many owners have Pinsound cards in their System 11 games. You think Bugs Bunny would have its own orchestration.

The one Diner orchestration has 628 downloads so this would indicate it is popular and a few people must have the Pinsound cards in their games.

#1732 11 months ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

Yes, it is odd the original orchestration is not on the community site. But I did download the Rollergames original file and its structure seems to be very similar to the other DMD games. These would be fun to play around with but likely not many owners have Pinsound cards in their System 11 games. You think Bugs Bunny would have its own orchestration.
The one Diner orchestration has 628 downloads so this would indicate it is popular and a few people must have the Pinsound cards in their games.

You might want to hit up the Taxi owners thread to find out more info.

#1733 11 months ago

Are there any good mixes for tales from the crypt out there? Does the board cure the dreadful data east speaker noise?

#1734 11 months ago
Quoted from digitaldocc:

Are there any good mixes for tales from the crypt out there? Does the board cure the dreadful data east speaker noise?

Not sure what the DE speaker noise issue is but it is a brand new soundboard and it is recommended to upgrade to new speakers, so likely no issues. Pinsound also sells a power booster cable that is recommended with the board to make sure it gets the proper power it needs to operate. I have one in my GnR and Tommy and they sound great.

#1735 11 months ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

Not sure what the DE speaker noise issue is but it is a brand new soundboard and it is recommended to upgrade to new speakers, so likely no issues. Pinsound also sells a power booster cable that is recommended with the board to make sure it gets the proper power it needs to operate. I have one in my GnR and Tommy and they sound great.

Hi There - the Pinsound board Completely kills the Data East sound. The hum is caused by earthing issues and the Data East Sound Board. No Board, No earth required - no Hum.

I had a terrible hum in a Maverick - was gone with this board.

#1736 11 months ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

Not sure what the DE speaker noise issue is but it is a brand new soundboard and it is recommended to upgrade to new speakers, so likely no issues. Pinsound also sells a power booster cable that is recommended with the board to make sure it gets the proper power it needs to operate. I have one in my GnR and Tommy and they sound great.

No feedback in my DE JP either when I had it.

#1737 11 months ago

So, I installed Pinsound on both my Doctor Who and my TAF. Neither sound as crisp or clear as they did with their original boards. Doctor Who sounds a bit muffled. Is there something I'm supposed to do that may not be apparent to have the crisp and clear sound?

#1738 11 months ago
Quoted from TigerLaw:

So, I installed Pinsound on both my Doctor Who and my TAF. Neither sound as crisp or clear as they did with their original boards. Doctor Who sounds a bit muffled. Is there something I'm supposed to do that may not be apparent to have the crisp and clear sound?

Did you adjust the equalizer? Those round dials on the board.

#1739 11 months ago
Quoted from MrMikeman:

Did you adjust the equalizer? Those round dials on the board.

I did not. Thank you!!!!!!!!!

#1740 11 months ago
Quoted from TigerLaw:

So, I installed Pinsound on both my Doctor Who and my TAF. Neither sound as crisp or clear as they did with their original boards. Doctor Who sounds a bit muffled. Is there something I'm supposed to do that may not be apparent to have the crisp and clear sound?

Interested to hear what you changed your round EQ dials to? I left mine at stock setting (12 oclock), not knowing what effect they will do on my Who.

I have a spare Woofer from a TV and wanted to hook it into the board, but not sure where>?

#1741 11 months ago
Quoted from Tophervette:

Interested to hear what you changed your round EQ dials to? I left mine at stock setting (12 oclock), not knowing what effect they will do on my Who.
I have a spare Woofer from a TV and wanted to hook it into the board, but not sure where>?

Likely depends on which orchestration you are using. Each would likely have different settings. Maybe better to ask in the Tommy owner thread?

#1742 11 months ago

Anyone have issues with their Pinsound headphone station working properly on a Data East game? More specifically, the volume control does not change the volume gradually. Rather, you can turn it quite far with no change in volume, then all of a sudden it goes really loud near the end of the gauge. Seem to have the same issue on both my Tommy and GnR. They work great on my Elvis and Doctor Who, but the Data East games seem to have the same problem. Thanks.

#1743 11 months ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

Anyone have issues with their Pinsound headphone station working properly on a Data East game? More specifically, the volume control does not change the volume gradually. Rather, you can turn it quite far with no change in volume, then all of a sudden it goes really loud near the end of the gauge. Seem to have the same issue on both my Tommy and GnR. They work great on my Elvis and Doctor Who, but the Data East games seem to have the same problem. Thanks.

When I had my DE JP, it worked perfectly. However, there were stages with certain firmwares that were required. Are your PinSound boards fully updated to the latest firmware version?

#1744 11 months ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

When I had my DE JP, it worked perfectly. However, there were stages with certain firmwares that were required. Are your PinSound boards fully updated to the latest firmware version?

Thanks for the pointer. You forget about the updates after you have the card installed for a number of years. I will give it a try on my GnR, which has the original Pinsound card.

#1745 11 months ago

I guess the community is down still for uploading new orchestrations? Been trying to upload one now for a week, with no luck.

#1746 11 months ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

I guess the community is down still for uploading new orchestrations? Been trying to upload one now for a week, with no luck.

You should PM PinSound and let them know you are having issues.

#1747 11 months ago
Quoted from NPO:

All right, so I got to play a couple games of BSD with pinsider Hazzard's remix, which was absolutely outstanding. What I have to say really isn't a review; it's more of my experience.
So the unit comes in its own box directly from France (all distributors I knew of state-side were sold out) with just some plastic covering to get it in the mail. Hey, whatever saves me shipping money - I'm ok with that!
So here is what it looks like when you first open the box. Truth be told, I did purchase the SanDisk 16 GB flash drive. Hey, they know what works best with this unit, and the price was like 5 cents different than Amazon. Take the hassle out of it for me!
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First things, first - FOLLOW the instructions. At first, I won't deny, I was a bit stumped as I was jumping on Pinside and the PinSound Community Forums looking all over the place for a nice, quick, simple, in-your-face set of instructions. That's when I looked in the packaging and saw these:
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The ones on the left come with any PS board, and they lay out ALL possible confirgurations - WPC89, WPC-S, WPC-95, etc. in a very easy to follow format. The latter handout came with the flashdrive, so I don't know for sure if it normally ocmes with each PS board or not. Now, I did one of these back in 2016, and I remember how long it takes to install the files from a zip format. Not fun.
So, what I did was go to Mr_Tantrum 's PinSound Tutorial Thread and went to his opening post: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tantrums-guide-to-pinsound#post-3715636
All you need to do is unzip the remix and then copy and paste that to the USB drive. To make things simple: FORMAT THE USB DRIVE first. Once you do that, unzip your remix of interest on your computer like so:
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Within each folder, you should have a folder set-up like this:
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Now, with Hazzard's BSD remix, he has an additional folder called "single". I do not know the purpose of this particular folder (I'll let Hazzard chime in on that one), but I do know others have installed this remix without incident, so I trusted this folder setup and copy/pasted it directly to my USB drive supplied by PinSound. With both the original and Hazzard remix unzipped, installation took significantly less time (read: 5 mins or so).
I then installed my new board into BSD. Thankfully, this part is rather "NPO proof" (read: idiot proof) as the two main power connectors are uniquely pinned (so they cannot be plugged in incorrectly), the ribbon cable only goes one way and has a raised housing so you cannot accidentally installed it "off center" (installation where you think all the pins and holes line up, but truth be told you installed the ribbon connector one set of pins off), and the speaker wires do not matter as they should complete a circuit connected either way.
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Nearly 25 years difference in technology. Love the potentiometers which act as equalizers for treble and bass. I also love the bottom left corner. Notice how there is a note on the bottom left connector? The PS guys mark off which 5V connector NOT to use by covering it up with that note, so you do not inadvertently damaged your new board. Pretty awesome!! Great attention to detail - or "cover your ass" method - depending on how full or empty you see the glass.
Once installed, I plugged in my USB drive, double checked all my connectors, double checked that I had all of them hooked up via the instructions, and then fired the game up. Takes PinSound about 7-10 seconds to initialize, and then the automated voice informs you "Scanning audio files, please wait." or something of the sort. Plays some "happy lil' elevator music" while you wait, and again, you don't wait long if you unzip the files as described above.
Once it's done, you get an "escalating in excitement" 3-chime jingle, and then off you go! I did not take a video of the actual game as you can view it currently on YT:
So, overall, a very simple install. Took me maybe 25 minutes total from opening the box to hitting the start button on my game. Now, that being said, I took advantage of the knowledge and struggles of those before me, and I have had previous experience with PS on a very VERY problematic TAF that had a 5V circuit hitting 4.75V regularly (read: reset nightmare). Even with the Kahr board, that TAF was simply struggling to fire on one, much the less all, cylinders.
To keep things simple: find a remix you like and THEN buy one of these boards and let someone else do the heavy lifting (making the orchestration remix). That lead me to a very simple and fulfilling installation. As time goes on, I may reference Mr_Tantrum's thread for the tools on creating my own remixes just to experiment with it and get more familiar with "beyond the install". As of now, wow, am I happy with this product.
Also, my only experiences rest with WPC89 games, so anyone struggling with Stern SAM games, I'm sorry, I have no experience to provide insights on what could be wrong.
My advice: if you can "get over the hump" of installing the unit, follow the directions to a "t", and take things slowly - the PinSound board seems to be a great product. I can see where people would get frustrated waiting 1-3 hours for the sound files to unzip and install, and THEN the board starts giving you errors and acting up. Do yourself a favor: unzip them on the USB drive - it makes the install go MUCH faster. Hazzard's BSD remix is about 430 Megs; along with the original sounds to install it took about 5 minutes total.
Next, making your own 2.1 stereo harness and introducing your own power supply for the 5V needs to keep your game's 5V breathing gently....!!

I just installed this on my Shadow. I'm disappointed on the Music cutting in and out, sometimes resetting,, low or unleveled sounds. I'm using a 3.2 Scandisk. Original B,B speakers which I was planning on replacing. I here BSD mix is good. My BSD is out for PF Protector at the moment. May pull it out of Shadow until returned. One mix is all music with no call outs. I fell like it was an abandoned project. Maybe I'm missing something.

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#1748 10 months ago
Quoted from pinballjah:

Yes, it is odd the original orchestration is not on the community site. But I did download the Rollergames original file and its structure seems to be very similar to the other DMD games. These would be fun to play around with but likely not many owners have Pinsound cards in their System 11 games. You think Bugs Bunny would have its own orchestration.
The one Diner orchestration has 628 downloads so this would indicate it is popular and a few people must have the Pinsound cards in their games.

I've done an orchestration for BBBB - but the Pinsound Bugs Bunny Birthday Ball Original capture is missing so many sound triggers that they honestly shouldn't claim support for this pin at the present time. It sucks because there isn't a pin out there that could benefit more from a pinsound card than BBBB.

1 month later
#1749 8 months ago

Recently installed the Pinsound DMDLUX board and it works perfect with my ColorDMD in my Bally DrWho. I also installed their headphone jack. I use it mainly to change music tracks external to the Pin. I roll the knob all the way forward and then back to zero. The chime goes off and I am on the next available soundtrack. Interesting to read that I can only have 7 tracks. Several (Rush & Hendrix) have full songs that took a long time to load. Love my Pinsound Boards.

#1750 8 months ago

I have a Batman Forever which has had brutal hum through the pin speakers while connected to the Pinsound (original Edition) even with the Stereo 2.1 speaker cable/harness from Pinsound. I have also had the sound cut-out with flipping likely since the beginning and have been trying to identify the root cause all of this time, while using the speakers, it is not an issue with the the headphone/line-out but. This morning I replaced the main 8 capacitors on the 520-5047-03 power supply and still have the issue. I started looking online again for more troubleshooting ideas and today is the first time that I see that Pinsound actually has a harness kit for Data East pins which 'eliminate the audio cut-outs while flipping'. Not sure how long this has been out but it sounds like my exact audio/flipper issue. I will order it and hope that it actually resolves the audio cut-outs.

Regarding the hum, does anyone know if there is an easy way to drive the internal speakers through the line-out on the Pinsound instead of using the 2.1 stereo speaker cable harness from Pinsound?

Thanks.

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