https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pinsound-card-reviews-anyone?tu=hawkmoon

Whitestar support is here and real - 3 cheers to the French Pinsound legends!!!

below are some WIP vids of my LOTR Wool Mix. I used the Pinsound community OST mix as a base but have changed > 95% of music and added a tonne of speech/fx direct from the DVD centre channel mix. The mode songs are faithful to the films even to the point in how they layer up through progression (like the ringwraithes mode). Music is taken from the complete versions of the OSTs.

Apologies for the mediocre sound quality but you can get the idea.

https://vimeo.com/227564037
https://vimeo.com/227564136

My Pinsound boards are caught up in US customs :-/ Hopefully they will get released soon

FYI, just posted another Getaway orchestration. This time, all driving themed music from various artists (no ZZ Top in this one). Awaiting approval, but should be available soon.

The pinsound board in Whitestar games is awesome and transforms the game. I added on to my NFL pin. Can't wait for SAM support.

Played this last night and it sounds amazing!

If Pinsound ever figures out the SAM system I am going to go broke.

FYI, my new mixed artist orchestration for Getaway is now available for download on PinSound community: http://pinsound-community.org/forum/index.php?/files/category/22-getaway

Anyone know how to reach the Pinsound people? I've tried their contact us on their website and never hear back. I ordered 5 Pinsound boards, but the 2 for my Whitestar machines are missing the Whitestar adapters :-/

Edit: Pinsound saw this post and immediately contacted me. Since I had ordered 5 Pinsound boards and 5 sets of speakers there was so much stuff I missed seeing that I did indeed receive the Whitestar adapters. All is well! I can't wait to install these!

Is Pinsound or sound board repair the only option for a Whitewater?
Mine every once in a while will do some strange sounds for no reason.
Looks like all sound boards are available except the style for Whitewater.
Seems strange they would leave one board type out to dry.

I've had nothing but great response from Nicholas and the gang. However, you must realize this is not their full time gig (they are hobbyists with real jobs too), so response my not be immediate. IMHO, PinSound is the single best upgrade you can add to a pin as it completely changes/elevates the game play experience with custom orchestrations.

On a side note, I just saw another used PinSound that sold here (2nd one in the last month or so). Both cases are users who bought them, installed them, then were totally surprised that they magically didn't come with some uber version of a sound mix for their specific pin.

PinSound is an incredible product, and people shouldn't give up on it so easily. In one case, the guy wasn't even aware he could download a custom mix that was posted on PinSound Community. In the other, there was not custom mix but instead of either working on one himself or encouraging someone in his specific pin thread to help, he just gave up. People really don't know what they are missing by giving up so soon. We need to urge PinSound owners to be more collaborative with their orchestrations. If you've put together an orchestration, then share it on pinsound-community.org. If you are in the boat of having purchased a PinSound board, but don't know where to start then post to the forum or even PM me. I'm happy to share what knowledge and experience I have with others (not that I'm a pro or anything), but I do understand the product and have built several orchestrations for The Getaway (if I only owned more pins then I assure you there would be more custom orchestrations from me).

Anyway, just makes me a little sad when people give up on such a great experience and add-on to their pin.

There is a promised Shaker add-on that seems to be coming somewhat soon - you will be able to program shaker events for ANY event that has sound..which is basically anything. I would love to put this in a Doctor Who or MB

Did they ever release an update? The super loud boot-up jingle is annoying.

If you've updated your PinSound board to the latest firmware (v0090), it should be fixed.
And if you prefer, you can customize your startup sound: copy your own boot.wav sound file in the "audio" folder on the flash drive.

I just updated the firmware on mine and the start up sound is as loud as it was before. ???

Mine is still very loud - but i fixed it by adding a boot.wav

FYI, posting an updated file (after playing several times, wanted to adjust the lane and main theme arrangements). I will PM site admin, so should be available soon.

https://www.pinsound.org/pinsound-board-firmware

Great, thanks!

Is Pinsound or sound board repair the only option for a Whitewater?

No, there probably is a factory style, but it's so much better sounding with the Pinsound. Might be an extra 100 or so for the pinsound at most too. I have mine in my WH20, and would never go back. It's clear, a lot of bass and they just fixed the whirlpool sound file. Any pre DCS game benefits from this.

I'm still holding back until they at least have a mode to accurately reproduce Pre-DCS boards. i.e. Same # of channels, no overlapping voices, etc.

Coyote - what do you mean by "same number of channel"? Pre-DCS games (and I think DCS and WPC95 games) are mono, 1 channel

You are right about the overlaps though- that would definitely be possible in the software

Sorry- I should have used a more familiar term - hardware voices. I.e. 1 CVSD, 1 DAC, etc.

The thing I don't like about the Pinsound, and would make the game sound abnormal would be when voices (actual quotes) start talking over each other. Sure, getting cut off sounds bad, but to me, two talking over each out would be worse. I dunno, I'm old-fashioned.

If the overlapping is a one off (like Picard cutting off Data in STTNG) it can be handled in a rules text file. If it's more widespread then you're right.

Yeah, it's more widespread. It's *everything* in the game. I'm not too familiar with DCS, but with pre-DCS, there's one channel that reproduces voices and some static sounds. So if an audio is playing, and a higher-priority one is commanded to play, the sound OS will kill the one that was playing and immediately start the new one. In SOME cases, having the audiio voice isn't an issue (i.e. Rod Serling talking over the Slot Machine sound effect would be okay. Normally, Rod's voice will get cut off by the slot machine sound effect.) But in some cases - like TZ (for example, since I'm most familiar with that game) playing the 2nd Lock sound ('Don't Touch The Door, Don't Touch The Door') and shooting up to start multiball right away, you'd have two seperate sound bits saying the same thing at just offset time.

In short - I'd like it to *faithfully* reproduce the board it's replacing first, then look into new features.

But I'm not trying to be negative - lemme tell you, some of the remixes I've heard out there are effin' awesome. I'm a tradtionilist, so if I ever need to, I'll just buy the old boards ya'll take out.

He's right - it does do that. I think that can be solved with a software update though - a certain number of voices from one type (e.g. Music, stx, voice, etc ) can be set as maximum. It will happen

Installed into my TAF and I am very happy so far! Still playing with the mixes and learning about the system, but I really like what I've heard so far.

Marc

Got another pinsound board installed into my LOTR, along with the 2.1 speakers and the OST mix, sounds great!

I'm still not sure what I want to do on this machine for my own mix; it's a hard theme to get really creative with. When I did the Outrun soundtrack for Judge Dredd, it fit the game because it's such a wild theme, but with LOTR it's like nothing really works.

Any news when the shaker support will be ready?

radio silence so far... the brothers do this as a side gig and I don't think it moves forward as quickly as we'd all hope

My latest Getaway PinSound mix is now available for download. I made a few corrections/mods to the orchestration that includes car/driving themed tracks from various artist and custom call-outs.

http://pinsound-community.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/222-getawayhs2-v7_mixedartists_customcallouts_mrtantrum

Pinsound in Apollo 13 anyone ?
Great (!!!) Soundtrack by James Horner.

But Pinsound is not working 100% like in LAH.

I´m 99% sure its not caused by the mix.

-> main theme music error (stays in mission music when mission completed or time over), think it should switch to main theme

-> mission start at ball start - ball drains while ballsaver active -
you get a new ball ("its not my fault") -> pinsound plays wrong
music after the voice sample

Shaker Support is already implemented, take a closer look into the new PinSound-Studio an the two expansion connectors on the board.
Then think about it and try playing with the adjustments.
I use that function in my Indy and it works very well.
Just keep in mind that PinSound-Board provides 5 Volt only on the expansion connectors, so you have to use a relay between Board and Shaker.

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We know, dude You have an amazing shaker setup - it looks beautiful! There is no documentation on how to trigger the shaker in the config (at least as far as I know). I also don't have time to build one though, and I thought there was going to be a "PinSound Shaker" product - would love to add to Monster Bash or my Doctor Who.

You trigger the Shaker by the PinSound-Studio (V0.9). There's a small menu below where you can turn on the 5 volt of the expansion connector (Channel 1 or Channel 2) in milliseconds.
That's all, and all you have to do is to switch the Shaker of what Sound is currently playing.
For instance you want the Shaker run if you pull the trigger, you have to search for the Sound in the PinSound-Studio and switch on the expansion connector you want and how long you want.

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Pinsound community registration not working after three days of trying? System won't send me a confirmation e-mail. It's not in my spam or junk folders. Tried several times this weekend, just keeps says "e-mail sent". I'm trying to download slamtilts' ver.2 TAF but no joy.

PM me. I have it and can find a way to get you the files.

That.is.a.game.changer

Thank you

Were you able to get this? If not, you can PM me as well.

I got the help I needed thanks!
TAF is like a whole new machine, I really love how rich the game environment is with better sound.
Now for IJ and AFM!
Cheers

That is my understanding as well - Averell built a phenomenal looking shaker that interfaces with the board - I just don't have time to learn and build all of that, on top of the time to program the actual shakes. Ibelieve the intention is to allow direct programming of the shakes to any sound event that PinSound can detect, not just those associates with a flasher, as is the usual approach.

Hi everyone i need some advise. I just put a pinsound board in my roadshow and it keeps resetting. I also have a color dmd in it too. Do you think a external power supply is needed. If so what should i use and how would i hook it up? Thanks

It's a possibility. I don't have a Roadshow but it seems hard to believe that just the ColorDMD and PinSound are causing the resets.
I have a Doctor Who with the same setup, and it only reset occasionally after it's been on for hours and hours, and the boards have not been re-capped.

You can try disconnecting the ColorDMD power to see if that's the issue. If so, a temporary fix is to get one of Rob Kahr's boards - http://kahr.us/

Most WPC games seem ok with both ColorDMD and PinSound as long as the PD Board is outputting a consistent 5V.