Quoted from Erik:
Great post! I like Cyclone, Elvira, and Taxi for similar reasons. In fact I was going to get a Taxi until I fell in love with Fish Tales and then I decided it does what I like about Taxi and more.
I played Demo Man again at the Louisville show and I still can't get into that one. Then afterwards I realized the pf looks like T2 on steroids and I don't like T2. When I play it again I will try to clear my head of T2 thoughts and maybe I'll change my mind!
I find Top 10 ratings funny because of the policing that goes on, moreso on ipdb than here. If a Stern sneaks up the list someone will quickly rip the game to bring it down. LOTR has been all over the charts. Tron is #73. Also I just noticed Jurassic Park has worked its way into the top 20. I expect b/w fanboys to take care of that by end of day!
Not sure if this was already asked but are you going to get Oz for the arcade?
I'm going to be over in that part of town today so I'm going to try to stop in.
Wizard of Oz is $6500. Tron was about $4300 and only makes (or has made) an average of $20-25 a week so it's made about $800-900 so far and that's not good for a pinball. I don't see spending more money on a game that people aren't going to get but I am more than willing to let someone do a revenue share with me on Wizard of Oz if they want to bring it into the arcade, I have no problem with that
I don't really think Demo Man is anything like T2. T2 and AC/DC are similar, and parts of No Fear are like that as well, but NO Fear has a lot more "stuff" going on with it than T2 (which can seem super repetitive) and AC/DC. Since all three of those are by the same guy, you can see why...
Demo Man has a lot of interesting stuff: The Cryo-Claw, the 4 levels of multiball, the "combo" system, the triggers which allow for trigger combos, the secrets by holding down the buttons on top of the triggers in certain parts of the game, the Quick Freeze setups for locks are neat, everything about the game flows very very well...
Yeah IPDB people are smoking crack sometimes. I really think that list is poisoned.
If I had to make a "definitive" top 10 you can't really "rank" a pinball based on what people think, they should be "grouped" as a Top 10 instead of ranked specifically. A good example video wise is Ms. Pac-Man and Galaga. Those two games are heavily overplayed but you can't deny how "good" they were/are for the time even.
Good example: Addams Family. Probably the best pinball of all time. Will I play it nowadays? Not as much, but you still can't deny how great it is even if it is super overplayed.
If I had a top 10 list of best ones I would place these in the fold:
Attack from Mars
Elvira and the Party Monsters (best WPC 89 pin, and arguably this series revitalized interest in pinball)
Star Trek The Next Generation
Theatre of Magic
As much as I personally like Sopranos and No Fear, I don't think they need to be a part of this list..Batman Dark Knight and Spider-Man are very solid pins that should be in the top 25 for sure. Tron is by far Stern's best pin and a shame if people don't like it because of the theme or are willing to give it a chance.