Since the marketplace has become a larger part of Pinside, the average sales price and market estimates have been a great way to get a ballpark of pricing.

This completely falls apart when the Premium and LE are lumped together, since the pricing is different. Also, it makes filtering the marketplace listings more difficult if only looking for premium since they are lumped together, and often you need to read the listing details to see what actual model is for sale.

Can we break apart these two into separate games?

#2 7 years ago

TDH

roc-noc

Pinside member

Rockford, IL

12y 93,900 1,306 62 9

It is also confusing when a FS ad is placed for an LE/Premium. I agree, break them apart.

#3 7 years ago

WOZ

PanzerFreak

Pinside+ Frequent

14y 123K 12,935 19

For rankings I think they should be the same due to the games offering the same gameplay features but there should be some way to split them up for the market place.

#4 7 years ago

EWG

kermit24

Pinside+ Frequent

9y 123K 6,538

Quoted from PanzerFreak:
For rankings I think they should be the same due to the games offering the same gameplay features but there should be some way to split them up for the market place.

Yes. Find a way to lump them together for ranking / scoring purposes, but separate everywhere else.

#5 7 years ago

JMS

swampfire

Pinside+ Addict

11y 168K 13,598 48

I consider it a bug that I have to drill down into an ad to find out what the seller is actually selling. Totally agree, separate listings and historical pricing for Prem/LE. But keep together for ranking/scoring.

#6 7 years ago

WGD

visi0n

Pinside member

Spanish Fort, AL

10y 71,150 753 4 12

I agree with, I like that they are together for ratings but would be nice to have the marketplace split them.

Certainly would be a nice tweak - (Sorry if this is a tough one to accomplish!) Thanks Robin for your continued improvement of the site and for being open to feedback like this!

#7 7 years ago

JMB

Monster_Bash

Pinside member

12y 79,800 2,564 23 17

And while we are at it..'Shopped' and 'Restored' are 2 totally different conditions (at least in my eyes).

I just bought a 'shopped' CP that I put 45 hours into it..and I still don't considered it restored

#8 7 years ago

EWG

kermit24

Pinside+ Frequent

9y 123K 6,538

Quoted from Monster_Bash:
And while we are at it..'Shopped' and 'Restored' are 2 totally different conditions (at least in my eyes).
I just bought a 'shopped' CP that I put 45 hours into it..and I still don't considered it restored

Totally agree

#9 7 years ago

JMS

swampfire

Pinside+ Addict

11y 168K 13,598 48

Quoted from Monster_Bash:
And while we are at it..'Shopped' and 'Restored' are 2 totally different conditions (at least in my eyes).
I just bought a 'shopped' CP that I put 45 hours into it..and I still don't considered it restored

That's why I always list all the things I've done to a game in the ad. It makes for a longer ad, but I want the buyer to know everything that I did to justify the price.

#10 7 years ago

BRI

gweempose

Pinside Moderator

13y 154K 20,207 37 1

OP
Quoted from kermit24:
Since the marketplace has become a larger part of Pinside, the average sales price and market estimates have been a great way to get a ballpark of pricing.
This completely falls apart when the Premium and LE are lumped together, since the pricing is different. Also, it makes filtering the marketplace listings more difficult if only looking for premium since they are lumped together, and often you need to read the listing details to see what actual model is for sale.
Can we break apart these two into separate games?

The mod team was just discussing this yesterday, and I think we're on the same page as you. For the purpose of the marketplace, there deifnitely needs to be a distinction.

#11 7 years ago

SMK

TheLaw

Pinside+ Addict

Ann Arbor, MI

12y 162K 48,039 19 30 1

There should, and I assume will be, a separation for market place ads. I will just add that until it happens, The lister can make it easier on everyone by actually saying whether it's a Prem or LE in the description

#12 7 years ago

HTR

htroberts

Pinside member

Durham, NC

9y 23,400 15 4

Quoted from gweempose:
The mod team was just discussing this yesterday, and I think we're on the same page as you. For the purpose of the marketplace, there deifnitely needs to be a distinction.

I just made a comment (https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/req-medieval-madness-remake#post-3142127) on another thread about this. Have you thought about making a new data type of a sub-game? (So a ruby WOz would be a sub-game of WOz, for example). Each data field could either be inherited or unique to the sub-game. I don't know anything about the back end of Pinside, so no idea how difficult this is...

You mentioned the marketplace, but I'd like to see the same distinction made at least in the collection area of members' profiles, and possibly in the tags applied to posts.

Thanks

2 months later

#13 7 years ago

EWG

kermit24

Pinside+ Frequent

9y 123K 6,538

Hey any news on this? I think it makes a lot of senses of seperate the Premium and LE in collections and marketplace. High scores can be combined of course.

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