Heads up, this is rather annoyed posting.

I have no information whatsoever that any Pinside moderators are involved in AG. We (the mods and I) have been discussing the topic a lot behind the scenes (especially since four of us were partially or fully paid in on the game).

Look, I think this whole situation is bad for pinball, bad for Pinside and hell, it's even pretty friggin' bad for me personally (as I am also out of $4750). Starting another thread with wild speculation and even accusations is not adding anything and is not getting anyone any closer to getting their prepayments back. It's only leading to more bitching and fighting and frustration and disinformation etc.

I'm pretty much done with the whole Predator situation, so until anything new comes to light (like a refund) all Predator discussion is to be held in the big trainwreck thread that can be easily drained out of sight. New threads such as this one serve no purpose other than stirring a pot of rotten soup. From now on any Predator thread that does not add anything useful to the pre-order people will be closed.