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Pinside Hobbit Buyer List


By nephasth

6 years ago



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#94 6 years ago
Quoted from Chuckie:

I was really excited for the hobbit pin because I absolutly love the Lord of the Rings trilogy.
Finally watched the hobbit last night and man was this movie bad.
attempts at humor that completely failed, scenes that went on forever, scenes added that where not in the book that added nothing to the story, but worst of all the action scenes.
The movie never gave me the idea that that lead characters where in danger and you knew they wouldn't get so much as a schratch even of they fall down 40 meters.
The big action scene near the end in the cave was the worst, that was more slapstick than serious action.
Luckily bad movies can lead to great pinball (I am looking at you congo and The Shadow

This is almost exactly how I felt. I love the LOTR trilogy (just look at my game room pictures). They did a great job of making the evil ominous and threatening. There was a gravitas to the whole series.

The Hobbit was slapstick. The youtube video with footage from the Hobbit set to Benny Hill music sums the movie up perfectly. Huge letdown for me.

Having said that, I think JJP can make a very special pin in this case. I am not in for a preorder though. May pic one up down the road, but I will not support JJP's "free business loan" model of business. Indeterminate delays and multiple broken promises do not install the utmost of confidence.

#103 6 years ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

If it wasn't for the way JJP funded WOZ there would be no JJP. Jack himself said a bank wouldn't give him a loan as banks didn't think a new pinball company could survive in this day and age. Jack went to operators and home collectors with basically a Kickstarter funding idea and there's nothing wrong with that. After seeing what JJP has done with WOZ I don't mind doing a preorder again for TH knowing that they can deliver. Also, the payment plan helps a lot when paying for a $7.5k pin.
It took 2-3 years to start a new pinball company from scratch, to design new parts, develop new processes, create an assembly line from scratch, open a factory and probably a thousand other things we haven't even thought of. In that time JJP started building WOZ and now that the foundation is built TH will come along much quicker.

You are likely right. I for sure want more pinball companies out there. Competition helps us all. I also want TH to be an awesome game.

But that should have been for the first pin only. To get the company started and off the ground. But not as an ongoing business model. It also doesn't feel right to be taking multiple deposits on a second game, with so many pre-ordered WOZ's still undelivered. Why should the consumers bear all the risks of the company? Now that the company is off the ground, he should be able to get a loan from a bank if needed. No need to pimp your clients, other than it makes him more money and puts all the risk on other people.

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