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#1751 5 years ago

Anyone got a Gallardo?

Seems like $85K gets ya a 2006 & newer low mileage almost collector example all day long.

Forum folks say they're purdy damn reliable, well for what it is.

Appears there's a depreciation curve with exotics that's fairly predictible too. Almost seems like if you play your cards right you can buy one with minimal losses.

Dangerous questions I know!

#1752 5 years ago
Quoted from PW79:

Anyone got a Gallardo?

I do not own one. Like any other used car have it checked out for previous accidents and liens.

Get the VIN, if you are nice to the new car dealer they can check its repair and maintenance history. If it needs a major service, be prepared for a large bill, for a major service you might be able to buy a used 2007 Honda Accord with the same money, do your research. Like a Ferrari the value in the vehicle is its condition and service records. If you work on your own car, when working under it, or in the engine bay, keep some band aids handy, or get some thick mechanics gloves. The car has various sharp edges underneath.

#1753 5 years ago
Quoted from Fulltilt:

New trade today. Back to some V8 love.
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Quoted from tjprice222:

How do you like it? It’s on my short list for my next vehicle but I’ve read mixed reviews about it. The interior sure looks nice for a Nissan. How does it ride and handle? Does the seat cooling feature work well?

I rented a brand new one (6 miles on the odometer) this past week in Reno. Quiet, comfortable, lots of torque, adequate acceleration for the heavy vehicle it is. Noticed the slower acceleration on the uphill grades and on-ramps. No worries in the snow at Donner Pass on I-80 where chains were required if you did not have 4WD. Per the Nevada Registration, cost was $51,941.00

Very thirsty vehicle. No better fuel eCONomy than Ms Bally's old Envoy XLT though. Gas at Costco was exactly $1.00/gallon lower than a Unocal 76 by the airport.

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#1754 5 years ago
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#1755 5 years ago

I look at car fax records on exotics

Noticed they have an unusually high number of owners in most cases compared to normal cars. Even with low miles, clear records, etc.

Unsure if thats because one owner examples stay with collectors who have a fleet of ill shit & never sell or if enthusiasts sell to each other leaving the common man with multi owner dealer cars to buy or if buyers are such ballers they buy the new models every few years? Maybe folks sell to fund investments or resolve hardships since the cars bring in big money even after depreciation.

#1756 5 years ago
Quoted from PW79:

I look at car fax records on exotics
Noticed they have an unusually high number of owners in most cases compared to normal cars. Even with low miles, clear records, etc.
Unsure if thats because one owner examples stay with collectors who have a fleet of ill shit & never sell or if enthusiasts sell to each other leaving the common man with multi owner dealer cars to buy or if buyers are such ballers they buy the new models every few years? Maybe folks sell to fund investments or resolve hardships since the cars bring in big money even after depreciation.

I have a friend that buys alot of new, low production exotics...he buys them, puts less than 100 miles on them, then sells them for a premium since most are unobtainable through normal channels. It helps he owns an exotic dealership so he avoids alot of the taxes, title and insurance fees. Quite a few celebrites come in and purchase.

#1757 5 years ago
Quoted from MrBally:

Very thirsty vehicle. No better fuel eCONomy than Ms Bally's old Envoy XLT though. Gas at Costco was exactly $1.00/gallon lower than a Unocal 76 by the airport.

Yes, I'm going to have to learn to buy my gas at Sam's (no Costco here) but that's ok. (:

#1758 5 years ago
Quoted from MrBally:

Per the Nevada Registration, cost was $51,941.00

I came out at $54k+ a few. Costliest otions included the Captain's Chairs package, cross bars, premium paint, illuminated kick plates (nice!) and the lighting package.

#1759 5 years ago
Quoted from robertmee:

Almost bought one myself...wish they had of kept the V8 instead of the ecoboost. Still a very nice looking truck.

I think you still can special order the V8; but why?
The gas mileage is already horrid on the V6 Turbo... I wouldn't even want to think about the V8 version.
Mine will probably never see the sandunes of a desert; but who knows - maybe I'll take it off road one day.

#1760 5 years ago
Quoted from PW79:

I look at car fax records on exotics
Noticed they have an unusually high number of owners in most cases compared to normal cars. Even with low miles, clear records, etc.

Maybe the fun and woah factor wears off when it is time to pay for insurance/service/gas etc.

#1761 5 years ago
Quoted from Zitt:

I think you still can special order the V8; but why?
The gas mileage is already horrid on the V6 Turbo... I wouldn't even want to think about the V8 version.
Mine will probably never see the sandunes of a desert; but who knows - maybe I'll take it off road one day.

I don't think Raptor buyers expect good gas mileage. Sort of part of the package. You cannot buy a V8 although Ford has rumored a 7.3 for 2020. As for V8 preference, turbo just one more component to wear out or fail. The V8 engines are work horses and damn near impossible to kill. Just a personal preference...no harm meant.

#1762 5 years ago
Quoted from Zitt:

I think you still can special order the V8; but why?
The gas mileage is already horrid on the V6 Turbo... I wouldn't even want to think about the V8 version.
Mine will probably never see the sandunes of a desert; but who knows - maybe I'll take it off road one day.

Since you are in Austin, yea, you probably wont. I mean, you are the San Fran of Texas after all. Why would anyone expect you to understand a v8!

#1763 5 years ago
Quoted from Roostking:

Since you are in Austin, yea, you probably wont. I mean, you are the San Fran of Texas after all. Why would anyone expect you to understand a v8!

Austin is where we keep the libiots to keep them out of our hair. They do have good beer and BBQ however.

A V6 turbo has no place in a truck. Trucks need torque to pull shit, Turbo 6s are high end HP. Turbos die and are expensive, V8 grunt is cheaper. Ill take a V8 all day long.

#1764 5 years ago
Quoted from zr11990:

Austin is where we keep the libiots to keep them out of our hair. They do have good beer and BBQ however.
A V6 turbo has no place in a truck. Trucks need torque to pull shit, Turbo 6s are high end HP. Turbos die and are expensive, V8 grunt is cheaper. Ill take a V8 all day long.

As a turbo owner, I have to disagree. One of the biggest benefits of the turbos are the crazy amount of torque in the low RPM range along with reasonable gas mileage for everyday driving. Here's Road & Track putting the Raptor V6T against the older V8:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/videos/a32503/old-vs-new-ford-f-150-raptor-v8-v6-drag-race/

You can't argue with the specs:

2011-2016 6.2L V8:
HP 411 @ 5500 RPM
TQ 434 @ 4500 RPM

2017+ 3.5L Ecoboost V6
HP 450 @ 5000RPM
TQ 510 @ 3500RPM

#1765 5 years ago

This is a great thread ... one Pinhauler (Tundra) and two ass haulers (15 C7 and 66 Chevy II).

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#1766 5 years ago

Getting ready for driving season.

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#1767 5 years ago
Quoted from tjprice222:

As a turbo owner, I have to disagree. One of the biggest benefits of the turbos are the crazy amount of torque in the low RPM range along with reasonable gas mileage for everyday driving. Here's Road & Track putting the Raptor V6T against the older V8:
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/videos/a32503/old-vs-new-ford-f-150-raptor-v8-v6-drag-race/
You can't argue with the specs:
2011-2016 6.2L V8:
HP 411 @ 5500 RPM
TQ 434 @ 4500 RPM
2017+ 3.5L Ecoboost V6
HP 450 @ 5000RPM
TQ 510 @ 3500RPM

From an extension of the same video, 10:09 mark

Kind of sums of my thoughts...and again, no way am I dissing the new Raptor. I'd love to have either. But the heart wants what the heart wants

#1768 5 years ago
Quoted from tjprice222:

As a turbo owner, I have to disagree. One of the biggest benefits of the turbos are the crazy amount of torque in the low RPM range along with reasonable gas mileage for everyday driving. Here's Road & Track putting the Raptor V6T against the older V8:
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/videos/a32503/old-vs-new-ford-f-150-raptor-v8-v6-drag-race/
You can't argue with the specs:
2011-2016 6.2L V8:
HP 411 @ 5500 RPM
TQ 434 @ 4500 RPM
2017+ 3.5L Ecoboost V6
HP 450 @ 5000RPM
TQ 510 @ 3500RPM

No you cant. That is some serous torque at low RPM.

#1769 5 years ago
Quoted from tjprice222:

As a turbo owner, I have to disagree. One of the biggest benefits of the turbos are the crazy amount of torque in the low RPM range along with reasonable gas mileage for everyday driving. Here's Road & Track putting the Raptor V6T against the older V8:
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/videos/a32503/old-vs-new-ford-f-150-raptor-v8-v6-drag-race/
You can't argue with the specs:
2011-2016 6.2L V8:
HP 411 @ 5500 RPM
TQ 434 @ 4500 RPM
2017+ 3.5L Ecoboost V6
HP 450 @ 5000RPM
TQ 510 @ 3500RPM

Of course they could tweak the V8 to blow those #s away.

Back on topic.

#1770 5 years ago
Quoted from Roostking:

Of course they could tweak the V8 to blow those #s away.
Back on topic.

They could but for one that turbo 6 is going to require more expensive repairs that will have to be taken to ford to be done. People love all that high tech shit till it breaks and it isn’t under warranty then it costs a fortune to repair. I owned a zr1 corvette, never again. My Bette now is a 99 FRC with one powere seat. None of that high tech shit to break. And, with a cam, custom heads and a blower pushing 12 PSI it has more HP than the ZO6

#1771 5 years ago
Quoted from zr11990:

They could but for one that turbo 6 is going to require more expensive repairs that will have to be taken to ford to be done. People love all that high tech shit till it breaks and it isn’t under warranty then it costs a fortune to repair. I owned a zr1 corvette, never again. My Bette now is a 99 FRC with one powere seat. None of that high tech shit to break. And, with a cam, custom heads and a blower pushing 12 PSI it has more HP than the ZO6

Soo I'm confused. Are you pro v8, or no? I know that the eco boosts from a couple of years ago had issues at around 100,000 miles.

#1772 5 years ago

I LOVE it when Mustang parts show up on my door step, new rear tires. Hope they are wide enough.

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#1773 5 years ago
Quoted from Roostking:

Soo I'm confused. Are you pro v8, or no? I know that the eco boosts from a couple of years ago had issues at around 100,000 miles.

Yes. I am pro pushrod V8. High tech is expensive and delicate. I am no mechanic or engineer, I have just been around cars my whole life. I have seen OHC engines and turbo 6s and all the other shot come and go hit the pushrod V8 always outlasts them all.

#1774 5 years ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

I LOVE it when Mustang parts show up on my door step, new rear tires. Hope they are wide enough.
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Can't wait for you Stang to come back together!!

#1775 5 years ago
Quoted from Roostking:

Can't wait for you Stang to come back together!!

Me too but there's always something that pops up that slows it down, now it's the front and rear brakes upgrade.

#1776 5 years ago

I'm actually LOLing at all the V6 h8tred. I get it... 8 is better than 6.
My first truck/car was a 1970ish crap brown Datsun pup... 4 cyl gutless wonder.
It fell apart; so I got a 1980ish Nissan (IIRC) p'up. Still a 4 cyl gutless wonder.
I drove a Izusu 4cyl through-out college and for the first 4 years of my professional career. I finally donated it when I got my first new V6 Dakota. Compared to those gutless wonders the Dakota and now the Raptor are worlds better.

Do I care that it's not a V8; not really because unlike a collector's item that's going to sit in my Garage … this Raptor is my daily driver. I actually DO care about gas mileage. I know it seems silly to a lot of you; but I'd blaspheme the Car heads here for a detune of the twin Turbo V6 in my raptor to gain another 5 - 10 MPG like the original eco boost in the stock F150s. I'm also going to consider Street Tires when the stock offroad tires wear out... ESP if it helps with MPG and for me to remove the speed governor.

#1777 5 years ago
Quoted from Zitt:

I'm actually LOLing at all the V6 h8tred. I get it... 8 is better than 6.
My first truck/car was a 1970ish crap brown Datsun pup... 4 cyl gutless wonder.
It fell apart; so I got a 1980ish Nissan (IIRC) p'up. Still a 4 cyl gutless wonder.
I drove a Izusu 4cyl through-out college and for the first 4 years of my professional career. I finally donated it when I got my first new V6 Dakota. Compared to those gutless wonders the Dakota and now the Raptor are worlds better.
Do I care that it's not a V8; not really because unlike a collector's item that's going to sit in my Garage … this Raptor is my daily driver. I actually DO care about gas mileage. I know it seems silly to a lot of you; but I'd blaspheme the Car heads here for a detune of the twin Turbo V6 in my raptor to gain another 5 - 10 MPG like the original eco boost in the stock F150s. I'm also going to consider Street Tires when the stock offroad tires wear out... ESP if it helps with MPG and for me to remove the speed governor.

Wouldn't you want to remove the speed limiter on the V8 for an even higher top speed?

#1778 5 years ago
Quoted from Zitt:

I drove a Izusu 4cyl through-out college and for the first 4 years of my professional career.

I had an Izuzu I-Mark diesel in college before I totaled it. That SOB would lose speed on an uphill road. Have to do 60 down, to make it to 45 up. But, I was happy to have anything.

Not a V6 hater....Loved my 3.8 in my GN and 4.3 in my Syclone. Have a twin turbo six in my QV now. But for a big truck, I just prefer a V8.

#1779 5 years ago
Quoted from MrBally:

Wouldn't you want to remove the speed limiter on the V8 for an even higher top speed

When I swap tires, governor will be gone. But the stock off-road tires are rated for only 100.

#1780 5 years ago
Quoted from MrBally:

Wouldn't you want to remove the speed limiter on the V8 for an even higher top speed

When I swap tires, governor will be gone. But the stock off-road tires are rated for only 100.

#1781 5 years ago

The difference in mpg between the 6.2L and Ecoboost Raptors isn’t as big as you’d think. Maybe 2 mpg on a good day.

The factory KO2 tires are good up to 112 mph. Not sure I’d ever want to exceed that with any tires.

#1782 5 years ago

Really? I thought the regular eco boost was like 24 mpg on the highway.
At best my raptor gets like 18. 14 in the city

#1783 5 years ago
Quoted from Zitt:

Really? I thought the regular eco boost was like 24 mpg on the highway.
At best my raptor gets like 18. 14 in the city

I was referring to the mpg difference between the Gen 1 and Gen 2 Raptors. The 6.2L Gen 1’s are getting 14-16 mpg, and like you mentioned the Gen 2 is 14-18.

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#1784 5 years ago

Well I got my flares painted and on a few weeks ago and finally got the side mouldings painted and installed yesterday

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So in theory I'm done painting on the truck so now I'm working on getting the new stereo installed.

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#1785 5 years ago

Looks good! You have to be excited to have it about ready?!

#1786 5 years ago

Couple pics I shared to FB friends. My local Mustang club had a banquet and toured this place in Morgantown, Pa.

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#1787 5 years ago

anybody want to buy a 1979 porsche 928 - 5 speed - one owner - 70k miles for 8500. i have to sell it for the family as owner passed away - i guess i actually own it now as i gave them the money - the guy loved his car and bought it new in germany and shipped it here with about 10 others. they did whatever they had to do to register car in US, and this is the one he kept - he had the other ones that are now worth a fortune - but kept this one - it's chocolate color - the same one just sold on bring a trailer for 15k. so i think i have it priced very very well. i did give them a little less. bill of sale and title are signed and open for the next buyer.

he also collected extra parts that will go with the car - they include and engine and tranny - doors and lots of other stuff. also has an extra battery. please don't think he has all these parts because he needed them - the car is original - he was just a nut case and bought the stuff in case he ever needed them. i would also trade it for pins. i am taking off seat covers this week to see what the seats look like. car runs great as i drove it home. no rot - looks sharp - has 2 small indentations on the hood and the top of the back seats look like the sun got them a little too much. only negatives i can see. i know it was well maintained as he loved this car. that's all the sister would talk about is how much he loved it.

thanks ed

#1788 5 years ago
Quoted from dmacy:

Couple pics I shared to FB friends

That is a mall I would certainly walk through.

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#1789 4 years ago

I just bought this. 1993 Autozam AZ-1. I hope to have it by July to be my new go kart for the summer.
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#1790 4 years ago
Quoted from SeymorGoldfarbJr:

I just bought this. 1993 Autozam AZ-1. I hope to have it by July to be my new go kart for the summer.[quoted image]

If you digitally flip that photo, the steering wheel will be on the left side.

#1791 4 years ago
Quoted from SeymorGoldfarbJr:

I just bought this. 1993 Autozam AZ-1. I hope to have it by July to be my new go kart for the summer.[quoted image]

You suck....I've been looking for one for over a year. Missed one locally about 9 months ago. Did you go the import route?

#1792 4 years ago

I have a ford escape...does that count?

It's good for pin hauling...not so good for photos

#1793 4 years ago
Quoted from robertmee:

You suck....I've been looking for one for over a year. Missed one locally about 9 months ago. Did you go the import route?

Yes. I’m importing it. I just bought it at auction about two weeks ago. I imported my Cappuccino a year and a half ago and the process was quite easy.

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#1794 4 years ago

Another Alfa in the club

2015 4C LE #106

Manual steering, 21lb boost, 2300lbs, launch control, paddle shift, mid engine, racing mode

Just in time for summer

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#1795 4 years ago
Quoted from Chosen_S:

Manual steering

What does that mean? I steer all my cars manually.

#1796 4 years ago

mine

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#1797 4 years ago
Quoted from Bundy:

What does that mean? I steer all my cars manually.

Usually means there is no power steering. It doesn’t have a power steering pump or electric assist.

#1798 4 years ago

Hope you catch the bastard that spray painted your licence plate.

#1799 4 years ago
Quoted from Pinless:

Usually means there is no power steering. It doesn’t have a power steering pump or electric assist.

I suspected that, never heard that term before though.

#1800 4 years ago
Quoted from Bundy:

I suspected that, never heard that term before though.

That’s interesting, what term do you use for a rack and pinion that has no hydraulic or electric assist?

We’ve always called them manual steering racks.

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