Quoted from djreddog:
After it was shut down about 20 of us went back to my room where we setup my Iron Maiden and a BSD from bluespin. We ended up having 2 small incidents in my room because someone who was very inebriated abused the BSD by picking it up and tilting it out. That was a show of total disrespect to do that to someone else’s machine. Then later on the DC guys brought in an Alien to setup but they were missing the power cord. Unbeknownst to me, they ended up taking the power cord from the BSD without asking bluespin. On the surface and looking from the outside people may think this isn’t a big deal at all. It’s a power cord. However it was more driven behind the fact that one of the guys in the group was the same guy who slammed BSD. So while the DC guys were trying to do a good thing by bringing in the Alien it actually ended up being a bad thing. I wish the whole thing went down differently because we are all pinheads and we shouldn’t have to deal with things like this.
bluespin, my apologies to you that you were involved in this mishap. Thanks for bringing the games, you are an awesome dude and most everyone appreciated your efforts.
That’s all I got. See everyone in York.
djreddog Thanks for organizing the Ramada party room. It was a good effort, but there was a communication breakdown between you and the hotel. The fact that people arrived at the party by walking through the bar area with 12 packs of beer to our game room certainly didn't help. I wasn't going to start a post about that night because I don't want to do anything to reflect negatively on the show, but I feel that I need to defend myself. Since you mentioned that night I'll tell everyone what happened from my perspective. I was the only one not drinking that night so I know that my memory is clear. The day before the party I bought an un-shopped BSD in the flea market for a great price that was playable but needed to be shopped, and a couple of features weren't working. knockerlover approached me and offered to buy my BSD for $200 more than I paid. I turned him down. Friday night I set up the BSD in the game room, and shortly thereafter the game room was shut down and I was asked to bring my game to Chad's room. About ten times through the night knockerlover complained about my BSD, told me how bad it was and kept making offers to buy it.
bjsilverballs was drinking pretty heavily and at one point could not open his beer bottle so he tried to open it by placing the edge of the cap on the TV and was ready to slam his fist on it to open it. Three of us stopped him and opened it for him. He calmed down and a little while later he went over to the BSD to continue playing some $ games. He placed his open beer on the bed and it spilled onto the bed. He played his game and tilted the game when he nudged it. No big deal, I nudge games all the time. I was standing to the left side watching people play my game. I get a lot of enjoyment out of not only playing but watching other people play. After bjsilverballs tilted the game he got pissed off and picked my game up at least 6" off the floor and dropped it. Several of us told him that wasn't cool and he was walked out to the corridor to cool off. knockerlover told me that I'm a snowflake and that these are commercial games and meant to be abused. He also said "Look he's worried that we're going to nudge his game." I told him that I don't care if people nudge my games, but picking them up and dropping them on the floor is not cool. He told me that this is a small industry and I had better watch be careful what I say. bjsilverballs continued drinking beers.
Another guest talked to both of them and said that they should be respectful of other peoples games and be appreciative that someone brought a game to share. knockerlover and bjsilverballs went out to the truck and brought in an Alien and started setting it up. The room was crowded and I was over near the front door where I could not see much. I did see Chad and his wife sitting on the bed between the Iron Maiden and the BSD, maybe three feet from my BSD. knockerlover and bjsilverballs were talking to Chad and his wife and looked back at me and started grinning. A few minutes later the Alien was up and running. knockerlover and bjsilverballs were the only ones playing the Alien. About ten minutes later one of the guests told me that knockerlover and bjsilverballs had stolen the power cord from my game. I told them I wanted it back and they had to turn off Alien. They removed the Alien from the room and knockerlover apologized for "borrowing" the power cord. He didn't apologize for being rude to me or threatening me with his "small industry" comment. I didn't accept his apology.
Quoted from knockerlover:
Yeah bluespin is such a great guy.. that I went out of my way to apologize twice for using his power cord and he still wouldn’t accept my apology.
djreddog helped to move the game in, offered tools, and was part of this whole ordeal. The games were in your room, if there was a problem with what we did, you should have introduced us to the pins actual owner.
Not going to defend whoever “slammed” the game, but Let’s all remember that these are commercial machines.
Thanks to everyone who brought cool games in for free play to share. This is my main objective in the hobby, and try to bring the cool, rare, and nicest games for all to see and play freely.
knockerlover I already covered why I wouldn't accept your apology. Djreddog didn't provide the tools, someone else did. Chad (djreddog) didn't have to tell you who owned the BSD. You knew that I was the owner of the BSD as you made me at least ten offers to buy it that night. You brought the Alien in AFTER another guest told you that you should appreciate that I brought a game to share. You didn't have any plans to bring the Alien to the room until it was pointed out that you didn't bring anything. You brought it in just to show me up.
djreddog You said "Unbeknownst to me, they ended up taking the power cord from the BSD without asking bluespin." My BSD was staged between the two queen sized beds and you were sitting with your wife to the left of my game, three feet away from my game. They pulled my game back and removed my power cord with tools three feet away from you but you didn't see anything? I find that hard to believe.
bjsilverballs You did drop my game. You just don't remember what happened very well. I accept your apology.
knockerlover As far as questioning other people for saying that I'm a nice guy, I have helped hundreds of people with searches for games, hard to find nos parts, etc. here on Pinside and on Facebook. I posted 400+ forum articles with links to project pinball machines in the below forum to help fellow collectors.
When you take something that doesn't belong to you, without permission, it's called theft not borrowing. If I wasn't told by another guest that someone stole my power cord would I have received it back?