. . or there's the player that finishes their game and them promptly starts another game although there's people behind them; not one, not twice, but three times!

I drank a bottle of tequila in the parking lot with them while we listened to their new demo. It’s really good! Then we toured the bars and ended up in a Pinsider’s basement playing until near dawn. Had such a great time all around.

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Experienced the same thing - some very rude people there

My two cents on this - the ad describes this as no wear. The game def has wear and although older, enough to break the ad's description. Seems like the subsequent negotiation was fair. That being said, buyer should have walked after the request for more detail pics was ignored. You have to look out for things like this - it would have avoided what happened next.

NOT COOL!!! There's a cost for breakdown, wrapping, transporting, and muscle used. A good reason not to use Paypal in my opinion. Bank check sent Priority Mail.
Glad it worked out for you in the end.

Thank you. I had some start up issues with it until about noon on Saturday when with the help of Pat Gallagher, the problem was finally completely resolved.

Dave

He mentioned to me it should be this weekend.

i stayed at the wingate nice and quiet !!

Pat is a great guy and fortunately for me he is local. He's been to my house a few times and can diagnose/repair issues very quickly. Great guy to BS about pins too.

Someone pulled this twice on Friday playing the JJP potc and the line was an hour long.

I just wanted to give a shout out to Paul Drabik. He was selling several games in his booth at the front of the hall. Paul is a class act and anyone thinking of doing business with him should have no worries. I had a deal worked out with him and picked the game up at the show. Paul sent me detailed pictures of the game and even sent a video of it in action. I didn’t even have to crack the shrink wrap because I knew what I was getting. Thanks Paul!

Thanks Dave - you’re the best!!!

I see what you did there

Dono,

I really enjoyed playing your expressway. Thanks for bringing it. I should of made you an offer and brought it home. Congrats to the new owner.

Joe

Agreed, beautiful game and played spot on to boot.. as always Dave’s attention to detail shows in the quality of his games he brings to the shows... always a pleasure.

Agreed, Pat is a great low-key guy who knows his stuff... has helped out with quirky issues that have baffled me in the past. Pat is da man!

Don't be sorry at all! Enjoy the hell out of it. I was surprised that my gf, who could care less about pinball overall, really liked the game.

i love seeing that IJ there; 2nd year. the LED scheme is spot on.

Shout out to McPin54 for hauling a Megatouch to the show for me. Really nice guy and a great seller.

We drug it up to the hotel room and ended up playing it for a few hours.

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If that was the lost world that sold on Saturday in the Vendor area right behind the Freeplay area, (which I suspect it is) You got a Great deal. That was an awesome machine for that price.... I looked at it early in the morning & was surprised at how low price was for the condition. Walked by it a few hours later & said Sold.... I was not surprised. Nice pickup for one of your first games!

you also got it for 1 hell of a price!!!

They normally have chewed up outholes and beat to crap plastics. That one was nice and the last I saw was an asking of 1800 (assuming you haggled from there?)

Nice job and super fun game IMHO. In a collection like your, I bet you find lots of casuals love it when they come over! Players tend to dig it also once they learn how to play it.

You guys are too nice! I would have just said You're Done! If things escalate from there so be it. I do not suffer assholes lightly. (as those of you who know me know)

Can I come play it?! I am in Quakertown

I didn't see it at the show. Congratulations on the pickup!

If anyone cares, the Capcom Airborne got 326 plays on Saturday.

Chris

Had a blast this year! Thank you to Ivan, Dave and crew. Thanks Pingraffix for your hospitality. Big shout out to Brian Bushey helping Bruce up in Canada load up the Rollergames he bought from me and a Teed off. He ran into us and it was quite apparent that I was spent so he jumped right in after moving and setting up countless pins! Wish I hadn't played so much, I didn't get a chance to talk with Colson, Butch, Lermods, and others. Great meeting you Bluespin! I'm sorry I headed back to my hotel after the bust instead of following the party to your room. I would have loved to have your BSD kick my ass. Thanks for your help Taylor and Freddy next year we'll do pretzel wraps. I can't wait till Pintastic!

Yeah I had 2 or 3 people playing multiple games by themselves. The worst one was the guy playing all 4 players on the Star Wars in front of Cointaker. I was waiting behind him and watching the GOTG game going on next to him when I thought to myself this guy must be really good. I peek over his shoulder and realize I'm waiting for a 4 player game! I shot him a puzzled look and he said he just stumbled upon the 4 players already punched in. He instantly drained and left.

One thing to point out is: I seen several families there with younger kids. And kids will be kids. The younger kids would punch in a 4 player on every game they walked up to. And every time the parents seen us waiting they pulled the kids after 3 balls. We drained the rest or just shut the game off and on. Sometime it happens. Had another guy in front of us that was killing it on IMDN. He looked back at us and said he took long enough and drained his extra ball. Yeah there were some rude people but most people were great.

I've never waited on line to play a game at Allentown in my life. There's usually dozens of unoccupied games at any given time.

Yeah I’ll give the kids a pass. I have kids and get it but for adults to play multiple games on a machine with 30 people in line is absolute bullshit. You got your turn, if you want to play again that’s cool but get back in line.

Common courtesy

Letting your extra ball drain because you were having a great game is VERY cool! Unnecessary IMO but wow. The only time I play Maiden I had a guy in front of me playing a 2 player by himself, but I have to give him a pass since there was nobody behind him in line until I rolled up

After seeing what the two Escape From the Lost World machines went for at Allentown, I should probably take mine to York this fall...crazy!

It's etiquette to look behind you to see if anyone's waiting before you start another game. Had that crap happen to me many times.

Only bullshit I saw on Friday was the GTB star gate machine with the smashed play field glass. The owner looked very upset and should have been! He was picking the glass out by hand and then I saw another attendee a few minutes later with a mini shop vac helping him clean it out. In the whole time we were there on Friday we didn’t run into a single person punching up multiplayer games and We were offered free beers by both attendees and vendors on several occasions. It was a great time as usual !

What did they sell for?

Ok, so now for the REAL story of what happened with this deal. Prior to the show I responded to mcandrew's post about his Atlantis, see post #821 of this thread. According to the post the game is "Restored" and is missing the submarine. I contacted him and told him that "if the machine is in the condition you claim it to be, then I will take it". I was the one who actually offered up the $100 paypal deposit. He accepted and we spoke briefly over the phone where he confirmed the machine's condition and talked logistics. I told him I would be at the show on Friday and Saturday as one of the vendors and that I would pick it up from his friend.

Fast forward to Friday morning. My wife and I were one of the vendors selling off some machines and various pinball parts etc (she was the cute tiny one that is always smiling). We arrived at around 9am to start setting up our booth. It was crazy from the get go, as any other vendor there that day could agree. It wasn't until later on that afternoon that I managed to sneak away to go try and find the machine to check it out. I wasn't able to find it, and mcandrew mentioned that it had moved spots. I got called back to my booth and was really just tied up until the end of the day when they kicked us out at 9pm.

The next morning was a lot slower so I finally managed to find this machine over at one of the flea market vendors. It was wrapped up and standing on it's back. There wasn't anyone around the area, so I took a few minutes to look the machine over. There was visible water damage on the bottom of the machine.. red flag #1. The legs that were next to the machine were in terrible shape and rusted over, red flag #2. Once I finally managed to find the young man who was currently in care of the machine I asked if we could set it up so that I could test it out. He was pretty reluctant to do so... red flag #3. Finally he wheeled it over to another booth to see about setting it up. I asked him if he had some wrap so that we could fold down the backbox after I got done testing it and he said he didn't. So before I went any further I wanted to go see if I could secure some. I told him I would be back.

I got called back to my booth to tend to some more customers and such as it was starting to get busy again. While I brought some stretch film with me, I was running really low and I had a couple machines sold that I wanted to make sure I had enough to get them properly wrapped up for the buyers. Once they were taken care of I realized I had enough so I went back a couple times to find the machine back in the corner by itself and the young man was no where to be found. I would have also liked to bring it back to my own booth to set it up and test it out, especially now that I finally had some space cleared up to make room for it. So I went back to my booth and got busy again and at this point decided to contact mcandrew to let him now that I would be passing on the machine because I wasn't able to thoroughly test it out (this was 10am on Saturday BTW, not on Sunday as he posted). I suggested to him that he have his friend set it up so that people could play it and that it would surely sell for more than what he was originally asking.

Later on when things slowed down again I kept going back to check on the machine to see if it was ever set up. Of course it wasn't, just sitting in the corner next to some other junk. Had it been, then I would have tested it and still completed the purchase had everything checked out. I sent additional messages to mcandrew telling him the machine was still not set up and suggested he have is friend do so. Later on Saturday afternoon I checked in with him once again to ask if it had sold yet and he told me it had. I congratulated him on the sale and was glad to hear that he wouldn't run into a situation where he would have to get it shipped back to him. Had that been the case I was thinking of making another offer to buy the machine for a lower price for an "as is" transaction.

Long story short, the original deal was for a machine that was in a particular condition. I have never done business with this mcandrew fellow before so it would be delusional to think anybody would spend money on a machine from a stranger without testing it out first. For all I knew the machine didn't work and the boards were all missing or fried. The unfortunate thing is I really did want the machine, this wasn't a case where I just changed my mind or refused to buy it just because it couldn't be put back together. I have been in this hobby for 15 years and there are plenty of people who can attest to that fact that I am not that kind of guy. I would however apologize for not being able to get to the machine sooner on Friday, but like I said Friday was super nuts. My wife and I didn't even get to take a break to get a meal until around 6pm.

My suggestion though would be that before you go posting stuff all around a public forum about somebody, get your facts straight. To everyone who replied to this guy's post, interesting that none of you asked to hear the other side of the story. Since half of you are from the same area as him, its pretty obvious you are all friends. So I suppose that would be the reason you so quickly jumped on the bandwagon to label me as if I was some kind of world class scammer and major douchebag. Better yet, mcandrew, next time why don't you just handle things in private like a professional. It is something a classy person would do, rather than publicly bash another person over something as trivial as this event was. Sheesh... you would have thought I went to his house and stole 3 of his machines and kicked his dog on the way out.

ps... flynnibus.. I hope you enjoy that 3rd magnet mod I sold you. You seemed happy with the transaction and our interaction so I guess I am not that huge of a monster you have all made me out to be after all.

Ouch! Any idea what happened? Bad luck or some kind of abuse? Never seen one break in a machine

Listed at $1200 and $1800, IIRC.

It must have happened right before we walked up to it so I’m not sure but from the look on the owners face whoever broke it just walked away. If it was abuse I hope someone got a pic to publicly shame the culprit!

This was my machine. The lockdown bar got jammed and we could not get it open. My buddy tried but the shifting popped the glass. Just a royal pain the ass to clean. No abuse other than our own. Makes for a great story though. I will be selling it soon after its shopped and de-glassed.

Anyways, on a more positive note, I would like to thank Butch2099 for your business. It was a pleasure to meet you and your family and to be in the booth next door to you. I hope you enjoy your new Scared Stiff! Really great guy in case you didn't already know. I also want to thank Wanna Pinball for the beautiful POTC I got from you. Thanks to all who stopped by our booth and chatted with us, I hope you got a good deal if you bought something from me. I will likely be back next year but with the older stuff next time... 20's & 30's Rock-Olas.

I was happy my local friend was able to stop by and say hello and see your great machine. He said that while talking to you like 5 different people inquired to purchase it.

Hey! I remember that booth. She was very nice. She tried to sell me a house! I bought a couple of your parts cases. I'm glad you brought those.

Hi Robert, it was great to meet you and talk to you and your wife. The pile certainly shrunk by the end of the day so I hope you were able to move as much as you could

Re: the transaction above, clearly the poster only shared some elements (and got some of those wrong too). I was only responding to the questions he posed (pickup on sunday, rejecting due to packing needs, and wanting a deposit back). Your story touches on the other points I mentioned too (inspecting, as previously described, etc). Glad you got to tell your side.. I would have pushed back too. But this is why I don't buy games remote myself either

I had a deal with Pinjunky to buy a Funhouse translite for $100. Sent a $20 deposit to hold it. Met him at the show, translite looked to be in original packing, handed him $100. He handed me back $20 reminding me I left a deposit. I probably would have never remembered. Funny thing is, almost the exact thing happened minutes earlier, someone paid me too much for a part and I handed back $10. Maybe there is pinball karma! Good honest seller, would deal with again.

To who ever bought this slot, you got a screaming deal! I absolutely hate slots, and swore to myself unless it's from the 30's/40's, I won't buy it.(I have had a few hundred slots come through my hands, I don't even want to look at the things anymore)...But with all the insane prices I saw on things at the show, that was an awesome price. I actually contemplated it a few times, as my father enjoyed the exact same machine at Mohegan Sun. When you see people asking $600 for a $25 S+, that thing was a steal. Props to the seller!

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Not even close dude. I bet you wanted it to remain private. Do the texts you sent me look professional? Did you handle this professionally? I think everyone is entitled to know when people get jerked around. Your reponse was to open a paypal case, and say "let paypal decide".

I was going to offer back some of the deposit, until you opened a paypal case.

1. There was no water damage on the bottom of the cab. Im sure several pinsiders can confirm this, as they had moved it for me.
2. You never opened it to even look at it.
3. You never made mention to me that you were unhappy about the condition of the machine.. I included your texts to me below.
4. The legs did need to be re painted black.
5. The game was sold. It wasnt up to him to open it up and demonstrate it for you.
6. He offered to sell you a strap when you said you didnt have any shrink to re-wrap it.
7. It sold for less then you purchased it for, and I am paying Mason for his trouble. Whether he set it up to sell it again or not isnt relevant.

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just hold in start for a few seconds and it will result to player 1, ball 1, single player game.

This shit is boring and none of us care. You've both presented your sides, and it's pointless to try to assign "blame" at this point. Please move on. In the grand scheme of things this is extremely small potatoes.