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Pinch Hitter Deluxe ... Which is the correct bat?

By kgodwin333

5 years ago


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    #1 5 years ago

    Hi

    I'm finishing up my Pinch Hitter and I suspect I may not have the correct bat.
    Mine is plastic but I saw a couple of other machines that had a metal bat.

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    #2 5 years ago

    Mine has a metal bat with a black rubber sleeve over it.

    #3 5 years ago

    Nice looking machine...
    I'm not sure about the bat, sorry.
    But wondering... how do you access the lamps behind the backglass? I'm helping a friend out and I'm stumped. (I don't want to break anything.)

    #4 5 years ago

    Thanks Oldgoat, just to check, that's on a Pinch Hitter, right? Any Idea where can I get the correct bat?
    I also have templates to repaint the cabinet if anyone is interested, ramps and rubbers too.

    The back glass slides out on the right side. Take the screws out of the moulding, take the back door off and pull back the slide (upper left when looking in from the back) that retains the back glass, then carefully slide it out sideways.

    #6 5 years ago
    Quoted from kgodwin333:

    I also have templates to repaint the cabinet if anyone is interested, ramps and rubbers too.

    Man, I could have used these a few years ago when I repainted the cabinet on mine. As it was, I spent a couple of evenings at the Pinball Hall of Fame in Vegas making artwork tracings of Tim Arnold's game while on a business trip. (Gotta have your priorities! )

    Nice job on your restoration - looks great! My Pinch Hitter Deluxe has a black plastic bat on it. I believe my '62 World Series (practically the same game) has a metal bat with a rubber sleeve though.

    #7 5 years ago
    Quoted from kgodwin333:

    Thanks Oldgoat, just to check, that's on a Pinch Hitter, right? Any Idea where can I get the correct bat?
    I also have templates to repaint the cabinet if anyone is interested, ramps and rubbers too.
    The back glass slides out on the right side. Take the screws out of the moulding, take the back door off and pull back the slide (upper left when looking in from the back) that retains the back glass, then carefully slide it out sideways.

    Yes, it's a PinchHitter Deluxe. When I got it, the previous owner had done a partial restore...well, actually, he purchased parts to restore it but never got around to it, which is why he let it go. I would check to see if Steve at PBR has what you need.

    #8 5 years ago

    The metal bat with rubber sleeve is correct. If you use the plastic one, use smaller balls or it may break. My game doesn’t have a lot of power at the bat (lots of slop in the parts), so i put in smaller balls.
    Don_C

    #9 5 years ago
    Quoted from Don_C:...lots of slop in the parts... smaller balls...

    #10 5 years ago

    I had one of these once... along with a Williams Official Baseball (which I think was the very next pitch and bat game made after Pinch Hitter?).
    I also believe it was the last one to use the metal bat. I remember reading a post somewhere about someone who had made one, but no idea where I saw it.
    It definitley has a unique feel when compared to the plastic ones.

    #11 5 years ago

    It's literally 20 below today. Smaller and/or missing balls are to be expected.

    Don C

    #12 5 years ago
    Quoted from Drano:

    I had one of these once... along with a Williams Official Baseball (which I think was the very next pitch and bat game made after Pinch Hitter?).
    I also believe it was the last one to use the metal bat. I remember reading a post somewhere about someone who had made one, but no idea where I saw it.
    It definitley has a unique feel when compared to the plastic ones.

    Here is an old post about some being made, but not the correct one for Pinch Hitter.

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-bats-for-williams-pitch-and-bat-machines

    #13 5 years ago
    Quoted from Gotemwill:

    Here is an old post about some being made, but not the correct one for Pinch Hitter.
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-bats-for-williams-pitch-and-bat-machines

    Those are actually the 'joystick' or handle that the player pulls/slides to make the bat on the playfield fire. Still... very nice repros!

    #14 5 years ago
    Quoted from Drano:

    Those are actually the 'joystick' or handle that the player pulls/slides to make the bat on the playfield fire. Still... very nice repros!

    Ahh right you are! I was wondering which games used "wiffle ball" sized bats!

    #15 5 years ago
    Quoted from kgodwin333:

    Hi
    I'm finishing up my Pinch Hitter and I suspect I may not have the correct bat.
    Mine is plastic but I saw a couple of other machines that had a metal bat.
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    Unfortunately you not only have the newer bat but for it to be on the game you have also a newer or modified batting assembly. You need a C 5161-1 batting unit with the metal bat.

    Attached is tables of all Williams batting games parts and numbers that will help all batting game restorers on what parts you need for each game. Look at the tables as all of the info you will ever need is there. It is quite common to have swapped batting units & pitching units etc on different games.

    Here is the tables link. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/williams-baseball-game-motor-coils-and-bat-assembly-information#post-4333051

    I update this list every year with what I find out about the games, the tables are probably now complete and info is mostly verified.

    Also I prepared a tutorial on how to modify the older metal batting unit to a plastic bat, that requires you to drill out the bat spindle unit hole slightly so it all works. This is the opposite of what you need to do if you found the bat, sounds like sacrilege now with your challenge.

    Here is that link. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/update-your-1957-c-5161-batter-unit-assembly-with-a-slugfest-bat#post-3888923

    So you need to swap with someone with a newer game but with an older batting unit and metal bat.

    I wish you good luck and it is a time issue not an impossible issue.

    #16 5 years ago

    Duplicate.

    #17 5 years ago

    I had a restored one and sold it, had a metal one with black rubber sleeve

    I have about 7 nice pitch n bats I’m going to put up for sale, Short stop, 57 deluxe , etc

    Just putting it out there

    #18 5 years ago
    Quoted from whitey:

    I had a restored one and sold it, had a metal one with black rubber sleeve
    I have about 7 nice pitch n bats I’m going to put up for sale, Short stop, 57 deluxe , etc
    Just putting it out there

    Your games are superb examples.

    I recommend any one that wants a pitch and bat to contact whitey, you may not get an opportunity for some time to get these rarer games.

    #19 5 years ago

    There is a bat without the rubber being bid on on eBay. $5 the last I saw.

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    #20 5 years ago

    Thank You to everyone who responded to my original post.
    I'm pretty sure that the batting unit has been swapped out, so I'm going to stick with that and the smaller balls until I can find the right one.
    Take a look at the pics and see what you think.

    Kevin

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    #21 5 years ago

    Don’t know if there is legible print on the bat unit label that will tell you what game it came from.

    I like others don’t like the 3/4” small balls and use the larger 7/8” larger ones anyhow with the plastic bat. I have not
    broke one in ages. The right bat will turn up eventually and someone will want to swap.

    Good luck.

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