Yeah. No way. You need all those other people paying to come in too. It’s all or nothing I would say for most shows.

I hope 2021 isn’t wiped out too. I’m undecided on the odds of TPF. Lots of things have to go quite favorably for that to happen and I’m just not sure case numbers will be where they need to be for a large event by then.

Replay is something I could see happening with some pretty strong requirements to get in, even with a vaccine. I’d go in that situation.

I know a few people who have been on a few flights and they say everyone they have seen is being cautious. Paranoid Pinball isn’t nearly as fun as what we are used to, but it can happen if the demand and willingness is there to play as safe as possible.

Should the IFPA make an rule to be fair?? Rest and don't count stuff at the sate level for moved shows / events.
Enforce wait lists at all levels? No you can't drop from our league in 2021 and comeback in 2022 no you have to join the wait list.

IFPA doesn’t run Pinburgh. They don’t run my league either. I run my league and we have our November event this Saturday. I have modified the structure slightly to keep groups under the advised limit and everyone wears a mask.

IFPA isn’t sanctioning events right now and that’s fine. They want to wait until every location can be open and the state/country reps agree. That’s fine, I don’t have a problem with that. Some regions aren’t as dangerous as others and it seems like each state has their own variety of rules. Once things are universally a little more normal, then I will start wondering when IFPA will start sanctioning events again. Til then, everyone should do only what they are comfortable with.

Gonna need a translation on this post.

IFPA doesn’t run Pinburgh. but some people may want an full refund if they run it with no IFPA as it was marketed as being IFPA.
And shows may need to not market having an IFPA event.

But I just say if there is an long off time. Any more or less locked in people to make it to the event hold over does not count for state points so people can't get an free jump over others. Even more so if stuff like World Pinball Championship, stern pro , papa Circuit, get moved.
Maybe an reset after restart.

Also leagues must start an new session when the IFPA restarts for them to count for IFPA points.

I think it is fair to offer a refund if Pinburgh does go on as a non-IFPA event.

As far as the Stern Pro Circuit, does the IFPA administer that? I have a spreadsheet that awards points using the same formulas the IFPA uses. I built it years ago to estimate points for an event before they showed up on the page. If the Circuit does not need IFPA (even though I and many others very much appreciate what the IFPA is) Circuit points could be calculated exactly like IFPA does and awarded as Circuit points until IFPA comes back online.

We are still short one Circuit finals that I was very much looking forward to watching. I’m also top 16 in a state and would love to be able to play in an SCS event even if it’s delayed.

If someone doesn't attend Pinburgh simply because it potentially won't offer IFPA then they have completely missed the point of IFPA points in the first place. It's as bad as Manfred calling the MLB trophy "a piece of metal."

Events like Pinburgh legitimize IFPA points, not the other way around.

Well at some point an reset for year to year stuff may needed.

But it's not fair to have a lot of Circuit events with no IFPA just have the IFPA restart in time to give the Circuit finals IFPA points (maybe if they did not count for the SCS).

as for an limited pop cap start up don't count / roll over any 2020 SCS points.

what about international people who can't travel they should get an full refund with an new window near event time.

If “international people” still can’t come here because of the covid situation, there will be no pinburgh and this line of thought is totally moot.

maybe there is some law issues with the Vaccine that block / place an big paper work hold on most international people to come in but usa/NA is back to haveing big events

Maybe I missed this, but are they going to sell a few 2021 tickets to fill the spots of those that purchased 2020 tickets but can't attend in 2021?

This is just horrible news.

I was hoping with the vaccine news that 2021 would go on.

they should dump there modded roms that are not out there in other places

wave 2 is killing us now

Worst news.

Damn this sucks ass!!

This really really sucks

Such a beautiful collection of games there.

You guys got out of wave 1? Ohio is still climbing to the peak

No. Everything PAPA is owned by Replay I believe.

Which ones are you referring to?

papa IS replay.

PAPA was rolled into Replay when they setup the charity. Kevin donated everything into replay.

This is replay basically liquidating and going into hibernation. Expect them to attach the brand to events others run or they help run I suppose.

They rebuilt in less than a year after the flood. I have confidence they can rebuild post-covid too, if the desire exists. Kevin is 16 years older now, so I don't blame him one bit if he's like, screw it, not starting from scratch again. He has the Letterman beard of a man who wants to enjoy semi-retirement.

sad sad day, I texted a buddy last night I was worried when I saw ninjadoug selling some awesome games. I hate being right.

Just a couple days ago I was brainstorming the same thing to a couple of friends myself.

ninjadoug - what about the online services replay donates to host? Like IPDB, the league software, etc... Are they going to keep funding that?

Replay Foundation is not dissolving. We are shedding all of the physical assets and will not be hosting our own events for the foreseeable future.

And there goes my dream of beating Keith in the finals. I was sure 2021 was my year... in all seriousness, this sucks. Thanks ninjadoug and everyone at replay for all your hard work over the years. I’m pretty new to all this, but it was very evident how much your organization does.

I am heart broken that Pinburgh is no more at this time. Mostly upset that I can't hang out with the coolest people on the planet. I will miss you all. I guess the only hope is to have Pinburgh similar tournaments in Banning for INDISC with the machines they have. This is such a bummer and I hope good things come out of this. I was so looking forward to the possibility of seeing all my pinhead friends at Pinburgh in 2021. Now not happening!!

ALL, like everything? Pins, arcades, warehouse, everything? Man that’s a huge bummer. When I read the announcement I was hoping it meant sell a few things to fund things like insurance and warehouse mortgage, and things like that, but still keep a huge chunk of the games. Then start back again when it’s safe and do a reduced headcount of PAPA Worlds and Pinburgh at the warehouse.

Thanks so much to all of the replay and papa people .

The positive effect that you have had on the world of pinball is monumental and an amazing achievement.

Best wishes for the future . love you all!

edz

Very sad indeed. While ReplayFX never had the same nostaglic feeling as the place in Carnegie I'll still miss going every year.

Thank you to everyone that put their trust in us.

This is sad/unfortunate. Although I have only been part of this community for two years, I am glad I got to experience Replay FX/Pinburgh when I did.

High hopes that when this storm clears you guys are able to put on more events. Hands down the best I've ever been to. From hayday events in Carnegie to Replay in Pittsburgh, always an absolute blast and top notch productions. Thanks for your flawless events and inspiring so many others to help push competitive pinball forward.

The link below contains pricing for what is available. Email me at [email protected] is anyone is interested in any of these games.

https://1drv.ms/x/s!Alb9k2GOg4LBgfF_N1NUZ7sAbAbLpA?e=NMTa9n

Arcade pricing isn't quite ready yet.

Anyone have $982,150 I could borrow?

Just make it an even $975,000 and we are all good!

Such a shame as best tournament in the world by far.

Wonder what the figures were that led to this?

I think raising $250000 would be feasible with this idea.

25 'Lifetime' members donate $10000 each.

They get a swag bag and lifetime entry for all future tournaments ( no guarantee how many of course ).

Probably too simplistic in the circumstances, but the way pinburgh spots sell, I think something like this may have worked, if it's a case of being in the hole by X amount of dollars.

I really like your idea. There are probably other ideas like that that could have saved it but I wonder now if there was a will. Is this really about Covid or is there more going on? It’s all moot because the decision has been made.

Where is T-X Sector? Sold already I suppose. I would buy one of these just to have a piece of PAPA history, even though I have zero room for another pin. Hopefully someone from the Southeast will be taking a truck up north!!

And please stop with all the gofundme and donation ideas. They've already made up their mind. The best thing we can do to support them now is purchase a game from them.