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Pinbot/Williams 11 Board Rectifier Question

By CodeWarrior

4 years ago


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#1 4 years ago

Hello All,
I was playing my Pinbot the other day when I smelled a little smoke so I shut it down and opened up the head cabinet and the wires had gotten a little crispy around the lower board rectifier.

Looking at the where the wires run, it looks like they run down to the power supply. The rectifiers, capacitor and the power supply are original.

My question primarily is have any of you experienced this with your machine? And what was the culprit/where should I be looking? I'm somewhat new to pins but have a technical background in cars and electronics.

Thank you in advance for your help.

BTW, Having read a little on the topic now, I plan to add some inline fuses to each of these rectifiers to prevent this kind of wire melting fire hazard. https://creditdotpinball.com/2014/04/21/mods-fireproofing-pinbot-and-other-early-system-11-games/

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#2 4 years ago

You can disconnect the rectifier and test it with a diode test. A shorted rectifier could lead to exactly your issue. Inline fuse mod is always a good idea

#3 4 years ago

Now this is the reason I created my Bridge Boards!
Take a look on my website http://www.inkochnito.nl and click on the Bridge Board image.
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#4 4 years ago

Things could be far worse.....

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#5 4 years ago

For sure it could have been worse. I was lucky enough to have been standing there and smelled the wiring almost immediately and shut the system down.

#6 4 years ago
Quoted from Inkochnito:

Now this is the reason I created my Bridge Boards!
Take a look on my website http://www.inkochnito.nl and click on the Bridge Board image.
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Does this bridge board replace the rectifiers or just protect them? What is the price w/ shipping? Thanks

#7 4 years ago
Quoted from Tomass:

Does this bridge board replace the rectifiers or just protect them? What is the price w/ shipping? Thanks

My Bridge Board replaces the rectifiers and adds protection by means of two added fuses.
It also replaces the very large capacitor by two smaller, more available ones.
In Europe the Bridge Boards are 35 euro plus shipping (within ECC countries 13 euro).
Intercontinental shipping is 32 euro for up to 25 Bridge Boards.
They are also available from Marco's Specialties and Big Daddy Enterprises.
I don't know their shipping prises.

#8 4 years ago

yes this is a design flaw with that era machine. the rectifiers were not fused...if they short they turn your harness into a toaster element....the solution is add inline fuses to both rectifiers and yes you have a shorted bridge rectifier...

#9 4 years ago

I'd like to replace both the bridge rectifiers with these bridge boards mentioned in this thread. What I'm not sure of is the capacitor. Does this come with the updated bridge boards or is this a second component?

Also thanks to everyone for the speedy replies.

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#10 4 years ago

Actually I found my answer in this doc: http://home.kpn.nl/p.koch3/Inkochnito_Bridge_Board.pdf

They are built onto the boards.

#11 4 years ago

Also a good idea is to use a Special Solenoid Saver board from Barakandl.
https://nvram.weebly.com/repair--conversion-kits.html

#12 4 years ago

Well the rectifier board is in place but sadly upon further inspection it looks like the brown wires beyond the connector got crispy in some areas too. I'm thinking I'm going to have to rebuild harness from the from the connector up by the bridge board all the way down to the power supply.

Is there anyone in the community who builds harnesses? That would be my first choice. Alternatively, I'd also appreciate any advice on the rebuilding process or where specifically to source the parts.

Thanks everyone.

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