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Full Pinbot Restoration, DONE.


By Plumonium

2 years ago



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#151 1 year ago

Been able to spend some time working on it today and yesterday.

Finished up the pops. Had to remove the switch stacks to make some room for my air stapler. Did not need a long nose and was able to staple like I wanted. Neat.

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Also cleaned up and install the stand up targets. I'll need new foam pads but they look good after some polishing. Had to resolder some of the daisy chain wires that had break loose.
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Also solder my flipper coils and new EOS switches back. My soldering skills have gone from noob to beginner. I feel confident now.
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Also worked on the left side posts and installed the rails.
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#152 1 year ago

Few more late nights this week and I'm almost done. All star posts on, all rubbers (I'm trying Titan silicon rubber on the slingshot), Comet lights are on both top side (2smd white sunlight frosted) and inserts (1smd color matching non-ghosting frosted) Also went with LED flashers in amber and yellow for the pops and sun (giving this a try) . Regular bulbs for the domes and 1251.

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The lift ramp needed some adjusting but it's all good now.

Feels good to install new plastic starting with the visor. I did not forget clear lexan washer for protection.
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I'm also done with all the mechs on the underside including the target bank on the chest. New hole scoops, new wrappers.
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All I'm missing is the vortex and blue ramp and mini playfield, then it's the plastics. I should be able to plug the game for testing before I put it back in the cabinet and final plastics assembly.

And can see the light at the end of the tunnel!!

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#153 1 year ago
Quoted from Plumonium:

Few more late nights this week and I'm almost done. All star posts on, all rubbers (I'm trying Titan silicon rubber on the slingshot), Comet lights are on both top side (2smd white sunlight frosted) and inserts (1smd color matching non-ghosting frosted) Also went with LED flashers in amber and yellow for the pops and sun (giving this a try) . Regular bulbs for the domes and 1251.

I'm curious about your experience with the LED flashers. I only use Comet bulbs and know their stuff is great.

Quoted from Plumonium:

Feels good to install new plastic starting with the visor. I did not forget clear lexan washer for protection.

I put in a full plastic protector set for piece of mind. Staying tuned about the washer performance.

#154 1 year ago
Quoted from WhiskeyTango:

I put in a full plastic protector set for piece of mind. Staying tuned about the washer performance.

I know the visor mask takes a beating. But the machine won't be played as much in a home environment, we'll see. On my previous plastic, the corners were broken so that I'm covered, but the eyes in the plastic were also cracked I think.

Quoted from WhiskeyTango:

I'm curious about your experience with the LED flashers. I only use Comet bulbs and know their stuff is great.

I will, really its a try. The regular bulbs draw a lot of amps and I had fuses burning in the past, that should help. Will get more light as well from these 9smd. Just need to find the warming capacitor and remove them since they are not needed for LED.

#155 1 year ago
Quoted from Plumonium:

I know the visor mask takes a beating. But the machine won't be played as much in a home environment, we'll see. On my previous plastic, the corners were broken so that I'm covered, but the eyes in the plastic were also cracked I think.

I will, really its a try. The regular bulbs draw a lot of amps and I had fuses burning in the past, that should help. Will get more light as well from these 9smd. Just need to find the warming capacitor and remove them since they are not needed for LED.

This thing is looking nice. I'm going through a pinbot right now too. Not as nice obviously as yours but it will be a super clean machine when I'm done.

I am torn on LED flashers myself. They are more practical in the areas you spoke of but they almost blind me to the point of a headache during gameplay lol. I'm still putting them throughout the pinbot im doing though. Why not right lol

#156 1 year ago
Quoted from jmountjoy111:

They are more practical in the areas you spoke of but they almost blind me to the point of a headache during gameplay lol.

Hehe, good thing though I can always remove some if they are too bright and adjust their positioning.

#157 1 year ago
Quoted from Plumonium:

Hehe, good thing though I can always remove some if they are too bright and adjust their positioning.

Don't get me wrong. I am going all in with the comet LED flashers on this one. I have done several this way and they always stand out in the crowd!

#158 1 year ago

I changed out the orange domes for red and blue and used corresponding colored LED flashers and I find it easier on the eyes then the original incandescent flashers. The only place I kept regular flashers is the 1251s and in the topper. The light shower after a game in the back box is a little stronger with LEDs but it looks too good to pass up. I can see white LED flashers being harsh in the playfield but colored ones are a real improvement.

#159 1 year ago

Some more progress. I was not as close to the finish line as I thought Especially when you want everything near perfect.

Lane guides were all mashed up. New ones from Cliffy, enhanced version.
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New plastics, new colored domes. I installed them with smalls screws as I don't have a rivet press. Looks good.
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All screws from top side gets polished before going back on. Common screws are all new and polished as well.
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Had some trouble figuring this plastic/posts/gate combination. Looked online and many seem to have a diferent setup depending on what post they have. The post with a washer seems to differ from build to build. I went this way. I like to have a tiny washer over plastic to avoid eating through the opening.
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I had a hand-made replacement for the big blue plastic, this one is fresh and looks very good to me. as other vulnerable spot, protected with clear lexan washers.
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New vortex, new decals. Looking clean and looking good.
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#160 1 year ago

Damn it's beautiful, look how perfectly uniform the reflection of the overhead light is. The playfield is like glass. I see you went with the LED rings in the pops, I have them in my Phantom and they look great I'll have to grab a set for my Pinbot. I would consider Titan rubber but it does look good with white, just regular white seem to never stay white.

#161 1 year ago

You are doing incredible work. Great attention to detail and documentation. You should be really proud of yourself.

#162 1 year ago

Agreed. Very nice project. Thx for documenting in detail!

#163 1 year ago

So nice for you guys to say, thanks! I promised myself to do it right and to document as much as possible. I would never undertake a pinball restoration if it wasn't to all those resourceful threads.

#164 1 year ago
Quoted from Darscot:

I see you went with the LED rings in the pops

I originally had them in my Diner when I bought it but they made no sense. I think they look sci-fi so I'm trying them on Pinbot. We'll see.

#165 1 year ago
Quoted from Plumonium:

I think they look sci-fi so I'm trying them on Pinbot. We'll see.

I'm generally not a fan of those LED pop rings, but since the bagatelle mini playfield sits over them, it might give the game a cool look. Great job on your project!

#166 1 year ago
Quoted from mbaumle:

I'm generally not a fan of those LED pop rings

Oh I agree. I usually run single SMD no dome on my pops. But I figured I would give them a try.

And yes, if they weren't underneath the mini playfield, it would be probably be a no go. But it might actually give a nice effect.

#167 1 year ago

I like the the sound activated rings, the pops on my PotO are kinda stagnate as they just stay lit with the GI. It spiced it up a little. You don't really need that on a Pinbot with the flashers.

#168 1 year ago

One more thing about those rings, there is a screw to adjust the brightness so you don't have to over do it. They throw a lot of light both up and down already.

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#169 1 year ago

Spend some more time wrapping up the playfield before I plug it back.

I forgot about the little plastic on top of the drop-down targets. So I installed it back.

I don't like using new screws for stuff hidden at the back so I swapped some with my White Water. Basically taking very visible old screws and putting new ones there. Then polishing the old ones and using them instead. Same technique used before borrowed from many well known restorers.
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I cleaned up the underside putting about 20-25 additional zip-tie. Might as well do that while the game is on the rottiserie.
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To prepare to install the back board, I first had to install the back rail and in order to do that I first had to take the playfiled off the rottiserie. I was carefull placing it on the side. I could have it lay on the tip of the vortex. I installed the rail, the posts which I did not remember which one goes where and the red plastic in the corner.

About the red plastic, I first tried to install my new repro one but did not fit very well. I ended up putting the original one back on, it's in perfect condition anyway and so far from the eyes, probably impossible to see...

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The playfield made its way back next to my cabinet and I will hook it up this week-end as I should have free time on Sunday. (knocking on wood, toc toc.) Shop feels empty, kinda.

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#170 1 year ago

Almost wrapped up my game tonight. I'll come back for details and more picture. Got to go to sleep. It's work tomorrow, can't have fun all night long.

A sneak peek to sum it up. I can't stop smiling. I cannot wait to play my first game in 15 months.
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#171 1 year ago

The best feeling! Congrats!

#172 1 year ago

Looks awesome! Well Done!

#174 1 year ago


Absolutely stunning job and amazing attention to detail. You really should be proud of the hard work you put in, it shows in the end result. Thanks for taking the time to document the process, I picked up quite a few tips from reading along.
I hope you document the FT restoration as in depth as you did the Pinbot.

Well done!

#175 1 year ago

Beautiful job, it would be a jewel in any collection.

#176 1 year ago

Wow, It has been a while since I checked in on this thread and you have done a really, really nice job! I don't have the talent to touch up the playfield as you did. I opted for a CPR playfield for mine and have been working on my complete PinBot restore for almost 2 years. Funny thing is I just finished mine up yesterday too. I went all LEDs and it really makes the machine pop. I really like your idea of changing out the amber domes to the red and Blue and may have to steal your idea lol. You can steal my idea of changing the left flipper silicone band to blue......(if you want....haha)

I have yet to play mine though as I was fixing all of the issues I found after my restore and was adjusting the visor motor and broke off the open switch leaf and had to order a new one.

I have also used that SprayMax 2K clear on a few of my playfields and I really like that stuff, definitely need a mask to shoot that stuff.

Anyway fantastic job and enjoy it.

#177 1 year ago

Wow, great job man, great job! I remember the first time I saw this game in arcade, it was brand new, and loud, and awesome to watch and play. It's so fun.

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#178 1 year ago

So, I wrapped up my Pinbot project today. I put the glass on. It's done. Played my first few games after solving a few issues. I feel empty but happy. The anxiety of taking something perfectly working and putting in into thousand of pieces without knowing the final outcome is gone. I meet my expectations and saw the project through. Here's a recap of the finals steps.

Put my game back on without the back board was not a good idea. It's been a pain to be able to screw it back...

When I first turned on the game. GI fuses blew up and no playfield GI was working. I found a misplaced wire.

Then at game start the ramp would act up. During the restoration a wire broke of from the visor motor and I put in back on the wrong way, causing issue. Thanks to fellow Pinsiders helping me out on this one as well.

I also have a missing segment on all digits for both my player 1-2 displays. I still need to sort it out but not a deal breaker. I need to get myself a logic probe.

The game plays super well, did not required much adjusting except a few switch. The vortex skill shot works great. Blue is the perfect spring as a full plunge will get to the top without destroying it.

New and clean mechs works well. My slingshots are powerful as hell as my pop bumpers. New rubbers makes the game feel different. The scoop holes catch the ball very well. New return lanes from Cliffy are precise and fast. The game is tight.

I love the 2SMD sunlight GI, bright but not blinding and sterile like cool white. Love them.

Here are some more final pictures, some before and after. If anyone ever wants pictures of Pinbot for any reason, I took 1044 photos of the game throughout, just ask.

Cheers guys. Thanks for following and see you on the next project thread

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#180 1 year ago

Holey friggin' moley!

Beauty, beauty work.

Awesome, helpful thread.

#181 1 year ago

Excellent work & nice touch with the before & after photos.

#182 1 year ago

Sweet

#183 1 year ago

Wow! Beautiful! Can you tell us how you lit up the blue ramp?

#184 1 year ago
Quoted from Sinistarrett:

Wow! Beautiful! Can you tell us how you lit up the blue ramp?

Thanks. It a led strip that goes around the whole way, inside the ramp on the front side.

#185 1 year ago
Quoted from Plumonium:

So, I wrapped up my Pinbot project today. I put the glass on. It's done.

I just found this thread while reading about SprayMax 2k... https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-spraymax-2k-auto-clear-in-a-can-club/page/8#post-3862536

Congratulations on a job well done!! Thank you for the documentation. There can never be enough restoration threads. They give everyone encouragement to do their own.

#186 1 year ago

Damn dude...I don't even care for the original pinbot but this looks amazing!!!

#187 1 year ago
Quoted from mollyspub:

Damn dude...I don't even care for the original pinbot but this looks amazing!!!

Thanks!

#188 1 year ago
Quoted from Plumonium:

So, I wrapped up my Pinbot project today. I put the glass on. It's done.

Wow this machine looks great for a "beginner", I think you were bending the truth there.

I hope the SBM I'm working on, much similar work turns out even close to how nice your Pinbot machine turned out.

#189 1 year ago
Quoted from Atari_Daze:

Wow this machine looks great for a "beginner", I think you were bending the truth there.

Not at all. I was a noob. But in this era of DIY, with good instructions and little patience, everyone can achieve great things.

Good luck on your SBM project and I'm sure it will make you proud!

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#190 1 year ago

Beautiful game!

#192 1 year ago

Awesome work what a beautiful job!

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#193 1 year ago

very nice job, the end result is incredible.

#194 1 year ago

That machine in that quality is on my bucket list!Awesome!

#195 1 year ago

Thank you guys!

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