(Topic ID: 142835)

Pinbot Bright digit on seven segment display

By waynestatemac

8 years ago



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#1 8 years ago

Members,

I need some help with my Pinbot! First off I had a perfectly working display on my Pinbot prior to this issue. The issue arose when I was repairing a spare 7 digit display panel that had a pin broke on it that controlled the B segments on the display. I was testing my fix of the pin on my Pinbot’s player 4 connector. I’m not sure what I did, I’ve been working long hours at work and have a newborn at home, so in my daze maybe I accidently connected the ribbon cable backwards or something but now when I plug in the spare display into the player 4 ribbon cable I get the UNITS digit, which is the first number, super bright and the rest of the digits on Player 3 and Player 4 under the normal brightness. On the original player 4 display if I plug that in the Units digit is super bright and the rest of Player 4 digits normal and Player 3’s digits are to dim to see. I tried 2 different ribbon cables and the same thing happens with both.

Months ago I did the zener diode mod to lower the voltage for the displays which I think left the voltage around 94v and -94v. I wasn’t able to test the voltage yet but I imagine it’s still the same as the Player 1 and Player 2 displays work just fine and are the same brightness as before the issue. I had some spare power supply capacitor kits laying around so I installed new capacitors for C1, C3, C10, & C5 as I think those all deal with high voltage display. After the cap install the displays acted the same with the bright unit digit on player 3. I think I damaged something on the Alphanumeric Master Display Board but can’t see anything. Could somebody lend me an idea of something I should look for? Too me it appears that the unit digit is getting higher voltage then all of the other digits for Player 3 and Player 4 and hogging all the power.

Thanks,

Mike

#2 8 years ago

Some digit driving information that might help
See sections:
"Partial Segment Failures on Score Displays"
and "More Segment Problems: the UDN7180 chip"
http://techniek.flipperwinkel.nl/wms11/index3.htm

#3 8 years ago

try connecting the player 3 display to player 4 with nothing connected to player 3 and see if it works as it should, if it does you may have 2 faulty glasses

#4 8 years ago

Random guess time - I've seen a similar thing before due to a failure in digit selection logic. What was happening was, the bright digit was selected all the time, so whenever one of the other digits had a segment enabled, that would add to the brightness of that segment on the bright digit. I forget the exact failure, but after working that out, and tracing the selection failure back, it was easy to solve. Unfortunately I don't have access to my pinball gear right now, or I'd have a look for likely candidates for you. If it isn't resolved by the time I'm home (couple of weeks), I can see what I can figure out.

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