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Pinbot adding 'just one more' LED to backbox turns 'em all off

By Brijam

5 years ago



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#1 5 years ago

Ok, I thought LED's took less power than incandescents? I'm replacing my pinbot's backbox incandescents with Comet Twin SMD 2835's and I'm part-way through and suddenly the top half of all the lights aren't working.

Also I replaced the left and right flashers and they are on 100% of the time. In the solenoid test it looks like they're crossed with several things - the knocker and a few others.

What have I done?

#2 5 years ago
Quoted from Brijam:

Also I replaced the left and right flashers and they are on 100% of the time.

I think this is normal with sys11. I think you have to remove the resistor or some such thing...anyone?
Is there a cement resistorc around them?

#3 5 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

I think this is normal with sys11. I think you have to remove the resistor or some such thing...anyone?
Is there a cement resistorc around them?

There's a board with several cement resistors where the backbox lights are. Is this what you mean?

#4 5 years ago

Check out the following with regard to the flashers. If you LED them, you’ll need to either remove the resistors or the ground. I just did this on mine and opted for removing the 330 ohm resistors.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/issue-with-pinbot-flasher-circuit-when-using-led-replacement

#5 5 years ago

The eyes in pinbot in the playfield need to be 28v bulbs.
Or you can solider a 330ohm resistor across them. And use #89 LEDs.

Also you need to cut the ground wire off all the resistor boards. For the LEDs to work properly in all system 11 pins.
It seems wierd but just cut the wires labeled ground close to the board. Or desolider them. And it will fix the flashers.

And as far a 1/2 going out. You maybe blew a fuse or are causing a short because of a bad socket that shorts because of the tight fit of LEDs. Compared to incandescent.

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#6 5 years ago
Quoted from erak:

The eyes in pinbot in the playfield need to be 28v bulbs.
Or you can solider a 330ohm resistor across them. And use #89 LEDs.
Also you need to cut the ground wire off all the resistor boards. For the LEDs to work properly in all system 11 pins.
It seems wierd but just cut the wires labeled ground close to the board. Or desolider them. And it will fix the flashers.
And as far a 1/2 going out. You maybe blew a fuse or are causing a short because of a bad socket that shorts because of the tight fit of LEDs. Compared to incandescent.[quoted image]

Ok that’s excellent. I’ll try out your suggestions, thank you.

#7 5 years ago

It looks like 28V LEDs are easily found on eBay and Amazon. BA15S base, #89.

#8 5 years ago

Cutting the three ground wires solved the problem.

I had a blown fuse on for the top row of backbox lights - I didn't have a 5a SB fuse handy so I underfused with 3a SB and it works fine.

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