I like those nifty modified seiko automatic divers & flightmasters.

Those are legit time pieces that can get really kick ass by creative people. Add a fatty mesh non tapered bracelet or a nubby hidden clasp nugget band & BAM. Big ol IR coated dome sapphires & custom bezels, hands, etc... Magic!

All durable, accurate, well engineered & can be had for a few hundie

That's how the F we roll in the basement!

1998 LE plantation = The one rum I put ice in from time to time. It brightens it up & changes the profile.

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OT hijack

Moar cigar sexiness

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Before buying glorified consumables & their marketed fiction of ideology please read the book "Affluenza" & the blogs of Raptitude & Mr Money Mustache.

Buy investments that contribute to your freedom not flash & bling for you life avatar that only become a shackle

Unless it's pinball, rum, strippers, cigars & bacon...

Why does a solid gold submariner even exist?

I mean cmon no one dives with that shit.

It's like a fake Rolex that's real lol

Agreed.

That means the watch is authentic but the owner is fake.

The hypothetical gold sub owner bought the watch for his "avatar". You know, the thin veneer he projects via conspicuous consumption. His motives were fake & his usage of the watch is fake. A person does not buy a Rolex on accident. They made a choice to buy into the hype & show it to the world.

But... I have to say a stainless sub is a divers watch. Nothing can take that away from it. Not even a poser who keeps his sub in a dry winder box.

But when you make a sub out of gold... it is no longer a divers watch.

Suddenly this "genuine" rolex is 200% fake.

It's fake because it never sees the ocean. Then it's fake again because it's made from gold for fucks sake lol.

I have more respect for a seiko in the water. Sheeyat I have more respect for a straight up faux Rolex in the water. As long as the owner says "it's fake" & swims with it.

Every time I think about buying a Rolex I always remind myself that urge is just the pompous prick in me trying to prove something. Anyone who says they appreciate the history of a watch then buys one NIB is full of shit. They can read a book if they like history

But.. that deep sea dweller is sweet lol. Grrrrrr I must resist. Or buy a fake to get it out of my system.

Anyone ever read "The Millionaire Next door"? It ain't the 1% buying this shit. It's more often than not the folks with a disproportionately low net worth compared to their high W2 & years worked (UAW, AAW, PAW).

Anyway I have a few Seikos & might still get a sub lol

Nice

If only it had more numbers, letters & words on it

I would not be able to choose between the classic black vs the blue one you have. Purdy sweet.

Ironically that watch is nicknamed the Avatar lol

Spending (insert silly amount of money) on a watch IMO is never okay.

So I guess we agree & disagree. Not that it matters. We aren't solving the worlds problems talking watches on a pinball forum anyway lol.

I think authentic watches are still fake. I think the demand is fake (created by the manufacturers) & I think the price is fake (created by the manufacturers).

Then again I think anyone with a mortgage that has the balls to call themselves a "homeowner" is fake too. That's not home ownership, that's an elaborate rental agreement.. But plenty disagree with me there too.

Fake watches, to me at least, really make it clear the whole Rolex & other high end watch game is just completely absurd.

But I still want one. I just wish I was unaware the desire for a Rolex is because I'm a shallow consumer.

Feels like we're having the ol VE style MM vs MMR & AFM vs AFMr convo right now

Anyway man we aren't going to convince each other to see it differently than we already do so I hope you did not take offense to my comments.

I just dont believe you're buying watches. I think youre buying an image.

I cannot confirm nor deny if that label would apply to me at times

Today I'm wearing a Seiko flighstmaster

I dont think this one has been in an airplane yet tho lol

grrrrrr its fake

See what I did there. I'm my own worst enemy sometimes ha

Red white & blue Happy July 4th

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Here are two Canadians with a great story

https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/about/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/house-investment-wealth-1.3716641

I don't think 99% of car loans are responsible either. There are exceptions of course. I'm aware that the 1% exception uses a low rate to combat inflation or opportunity loss to find gains to offset the vehicles depreciation but the other 99%, normal folks, just cannot afford the car so they finance it.

Same goes for mortgage interest. If it was that valuable folks would refi to higher rates. IMO unless a person has a multimillion dollar note & a 39.6% marginal bracket with the purchase price of the house invested then they need to pay it off, again this is IMO.

Mortgages & car loans are fine to get "life" started but IMO they are what ruin the middle class (long term). I still have a mortgage, for now.

Disclaimer: I'm full of shit & should not be taken very seriously

Also I really want a Submariner but they seem small compared to my SKX

You're not earning 6%-9%

You're leveraging the roof your family lives under for 2%-5% after subtracting the mortgage rate, fees & some taxes. Take the average & its maybe 3.5%? We all have different risk tolerance but 3.5% net is not enough for me. Especially when the S&P is like the highest its ever been since its like ever been lol.

The 1% incentive is understandable if you are the 1% using it as a tool. 99% are not. Inflation washes that one out for you.

I dont chase the highest gain. If I did I'd go balls deep on a HELOC to make short term trades or a fixed mortgage to buy some high yield junk bonds. But that scares me.

Sorry I ruined the thread... but gold Submariners are a trigger for me

Taking out a mortgage is just fine. I did.

Keeping one while living high on the hog is not fine.

Meaning folks shouldn't complain about how impossible it is to pay cash for a house while buying a Rolex or some shit.

IMO

Yeah but weed & hoes are legal out there so of course its more expensive

Move to the Suburbs like those of us in Wentzville

There are far more gentrified expensive status pockets of St Louis compared to Wentzville but I refuse to live in those inflated areas because I really like money & square footage.

Well I've beat a dead horse long enough. My apologies.

So... any opinions on Marathon?

(Not my pic. If I had that watch & those titties I would not be on Pinside)

https://www.marathonwatch.com/product/search-rescue-jumbo-bilingual-divers-automatic-with-day-date-jdd/

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Is it true the annual maitenance costs of a Rolex are apx $1K?

Ah, weird.

I've heard from more than one person there's a reccomended annual "cleaning" that's quite costly.

Good to know. Thanks.

I just wanted to pop in & say I ordered a Seiko Turtle... in gold

lol

A “gold” dive watch nooooo

Turtle Power!

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I keep thinking about getting a Rolex.

It sorta pisses me off because I know damn well its a materialistic nouveau riche braggart douche item yet here I am pondering buying one to celebrate my pending 40th.

Maybe I can get it out of my system with that blue turtle. It is damn noiyce.

We should just split a boat lol

The price for a Rolex is indeed stupid

The white GMT Explorer is noiyce. It's on my short list actually.

Yeah but so would a $10K mutual fund that grew into $200K in 35 years.

Agreed but money is only part of the equation. Pins are not a beacon of douchebaggery tho like a Rolex, Ed Hardy shirt, an ascot scarf or those shoes Kaneda wore.

I'm wearing a Golden Girls T-shirt so dont mind me.

No

Gonna buy a Honda Odyssey & two pins instead lol

Lol, well played

But to my defense the new 2018 Odyssey is baller AF.

It’s a got dayum chariot of leather, LCD and moonroof.

I'm happy to report the Oddysey keeps perfect time.

It's an "automatic" too lol

I want a blue lagoon turtle

Any reccomended stores/sellers?

Thats not the limited edition blue lagoon tho.

I want that bright blue one.

I promise to wear it into the ocean in April lol

Appreciate the links tho mang. I might dig deeper into those submariner homages you posted a while back.

I am gonna buy the srpc25 me thinks

Ordered the SRPC23

Plan to match it with a polished super engineer band

Still haunted by the Rolex though. My 40th is 8 months away so if I were to ever justify buying one that would be the time. Then again on my 50th. Might as well buy another to retroactively celebrate my 30th too

The 2018 root beer GMT with rose gold accents on steel is so F’n dope but it’s so beautiful & collectible that I’d never wear it (defeating the purpose of owning IMO).

Prolly better off getting a played out Sub or unloved Explorer that I can put some serious scratches & soap scum patina on to make it more meaningful to my son when I die n shit. A watch I actually wore often vs kept in a safe.

Then again maybe I should wait until my net worth hits a particular target before buying the Rolex since it symbolizes prosperity & braggart douchebaggery.

Anyway thanks for listening to my life story lol.

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For all those pricks on IG posting their rollie wrist next to a MB steering wheel & cafe latte.

Here's a F'n Seiko next to a Honda Oddysey badge while I drank a can of Mexican Guava juice lol

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For context, here's what I mean

IG flex'n

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I live a terrible life

Popped the crystal on my gold turtle yesterday when flipping ribeyes on the grill.

Woe is me.

Bought a press & some tools. About to order a domed AR crystal & seal to see if I can learn how to DIY mods.

Wish me luck!

Just having fun

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fiberdude120 I assume you replied to me?

If so you are right

But... I'm thinking a Rolex is irresponsible before a paid off mortgage & fully funded college savings for my kids.

Then again so are pins. Dang

Eh maybe just one lol

I like the 41mm datejust.

Stainless with the jubilee, smooth bezel & dark rhodium dial seems to be a good combo.

Nice enough to dress up but not so nice I'm scared to wear it.

Shit. I better not go look at one...

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First time working on a watch

I'm sure a few folks would cringe at the shit I did

Let me tell ya I learned a few hard lessons. Broke a chapter ring & a made a few other mistakes.

But I made lemonade from the lemons & now there's a "gold" chaper ring & clear AR dome lens on my Seiko turtle.

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Sorry to flex so hard on y'all

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I tried to buy a Rolex last weekend

Sorta

By “tried” I mean “went to look” but based on historical data “went to look” usually ends up as “bought” with anything in life. Except in this case.

It appears Rolex’s don’t actually exist. There’s billboards, magazine ads & a Rolex website full of watches... that don’t exist.

The only stock found were solid gold GMT’s/Subs & the worst combinations of datejusts imaginable. Total turds.

Come to find out authorized Rolex dealers don’t actually sell Rolex’s. You have to go to a scalper or grey market dealer & pay marked up secondary prices to speculators.

Gonna buy Munsters or Maiden to celebrate my 40th instead.

Thanks for reading my life story. I feel better now.

OP 39 white dial. Possibly black dial.

Vs

DJ41 white dial, jubilee bracelet & smooth bezel (all stainless). Maybe dark rhodium dial.

Unless a GMT swayed me otherwise.

I need to see all 3 at once to decide. That appears to be an issue. No worries tho, pinball is better.

Gonna go to the AD again.

This time I will ask for a Rollie Rollie Rollie with a dab of ranch.

Wonder if that’s the secret password to get one?

I’m learning now Hamilton is a sliperly slope.

They have a lot of watches I like.

Too many!