Gotta believe next year is going to be EPIC, especially with all the games coming out and DR entering the fray.

One thing I would recommend for ALL of the manufacturing participants is take advantage of Pinside and actually come on here and explain your position, views and rationale on games. Yeah i know that's not happening.

To say its a "cancer" or "sewer" is WAY overly generalizing the situation, highly offensive and totally untrue. As a buyer of all these games i don't get it.

It's my opinion that despite all the criticism, praise, hate, love etc...you manufacturers, artists, designers, etc. better appreciate the fact that people are talking about your games, good or bad, love or hate.

It's when people STOP complaining or commenting is when you better start F ing worrying. That's means nobody gives a shit about what you are making.

People are just having a conversation. I love the Red Sox, I hate the Yankees...blah, blah blah Embrace it people!

2019 trend.....you have to differentiate your LE models from "premiums" and "pros" in additional minor ways.

For example, the autographed card and "episodes" on BM66 is really cool and provides some differentiation.

Do more of it!

Franchi, we love pinball and we love to talk shit about it, praise it, and we love to buy these games. What don't you get about that?

I just bought a Beatles despite the shitty art package! Just kidding, i love it. Along with BM66 btw

Good lord dude, who gives a F who likes it or doesn't? I'm pretty sure you, Donny and Yeti get blown regularly on here. The art is phenomenal. Take your panties off and grow a pair.

WTF

This is my whole point though.

I'm thinking Spooky embraces it because they have to and maybe want to because they care about sales and don't take people for granted?

Most people here are passionate about pinball and support ALL of the manufacturers, designers, artists, modders, etc.....

Some people may get their panties in a wad but all the masses are really doing is crying out for a little LOVE!

I'll say it again and they better digest this, "when Pinside ceases to exist and others stop talking about pinball, good or bad, that's when you better start F ing worrying".....

think about that Taco Bell

No doubt. Of course they pay attention while they say they don't.

The whole "taking things too far" is the world we live in today and its pathetic honestly.

And there are a few whacko nut jobs everywhere in all walks of life. Have we not seen it?

I'd say come in here and make your case instead of calling people a "cancer" and "stupid".

Either way it doesn't matter, people are going to discuss what they like, good or bad, love or hate and I don't see what's wrong with that as long as WE are talking about it.

Agreed on the higher cost TRUE LE's. They are coming and will be gobbled up IF there is some differentiation.

Yes on the "chess pins" but deep fun like Lyman delivers is big in a HUO environment.

Deeproot hired Jpop, as bad as it seems, because they saw people like myself and other buy into rarity, perceived innovation and sexy themes.

How much did he pay for Magic Girl, Retro Zombies and Alice in Wonderland? Nada.....

Yet, DR might sell a shit ton of those games despite Jpop if the price is right.

I'd also say take a cue from Heighway pinball and Alien, that game is AWESOME all the way around.

The fact that David Thiel is working for DR is a HUGE plus.

Why do you think these manufacturers take jabs at each other all the time? Just listen to Franchi and Kaminkow selling simplicity over complexity when it suits them. It's hilarious.

And of course, I'll take a game that plays like Ac/dc with Ritchie/Lyman over artwork all day. Yet, I want the artwork too because we are paying big bucks for it now.!

GOT is arguably the ugliest pin ever, TWD ain't no beauty either and Ac/dc is a pig artwork wise.

And btw, you guys did a phenomenal job on Alien given the circumstances. Truly amazing.

We are paying Franchi, Donny and Yeti to deliver great art. Yes i mean "Pinside" and others worldwide.

Quit crying.

I agree with all but this.

Yes its expensive as shit to build pins today and 2019, we understand that.

Higher prices will be tough to deliver i think regardless of whatever "formula" they are using. They better figure out how to curb that trend AND still provide great pinball at a profit.

If it can't be done then new pinball dies.

I agree old fart. After the Munsters and Beverly Hillbilly pins we will move into things like Seinfeld and Big Bang Theory!

Instead of whining about whatever on some podcast, which for the most part only Pinside listens to, make your points here as well.

Yeah i know its hard, so is making pinball.

Pinside or no Pinside there is gonna be criticism. Pinball isn't an everybody gets a trophy business.

2019

Pinball machines cost more than the Smart Cars that Odiner and the Cali's love!

I thinking we need to clone more Lloyd's in 2019!

I'm going out on a limb here but i believe 2019 is the year JJP will announce a pin AND ship it in the same year!

Lol...

I'm hopeful this time. Why? Not sure but practice makes perfect and I can't imagine they will show another game again without being ready to ship it shortly thereafter, 3 months max.

Interesting. Looks like High Roller Casino and Sharkey's Shootout back in 2000 and 2001 were the last Stern "original themes". And not sure how creative those games were.

If its a cool layout like WH20 I could be enticed for sure.

What about MG and/or Raza?

You and me both, Lacey style. Wife loves it!

In 2019 Kman will take a math class and figure out what COGS versus "wholesale/net margins" on a pin means. Yes, "fixed overhead" is a real thing that gets applied to every single pin!!! Stick to marketing and what you know.

That's questionable too, "pinside has zero impact on who buys what pins but i do with my podcast"! Seriously, are you really in marketing, see below?

And Brenda will make him see a doctor to cure his overwhelming narcissism. Not....Love you man

Hey Brenda, its still not too late!

Totally agree with both of these statements!

I will be getting an Oktoberfest pin in 2019. And hopefully Acnc arrives by January

In with the new and out with the old as they say.