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Quoted from jimjim66:Since this thread has been reopened after close to a year- 2 questions for the "Bubble Popping" people.
When? 1 year, 2 years, 5+ years
This Friday. Plan accordingly.
Quoted from gambit3113:When you draw any parallel to baseball card or comic book market, your argument loses all credibility. Those were mass produced to junk bond status. Completely different story.
Do us both a favor and don't start firing off claims like losing "all credibility". I'm saying what is happening in pinball is not new. It's going through the same thing other frivolous hobbies have gone through when human beings hype it into an "investment" market. Comics and cards are the two most mainstream examples that everyone here can relate to. You can nitpick specific things about those examples to fit your view all you want, doesn't really change that this dumb investment/fake marketing stage pinball is in now is something every hobby sees (and in fact, this isn't pinball's first time to this rodeo anyways). This will settle more than pop.
Quoted from gambit3113:Now, this response really does end the credibility of the theory, doesn't it? Don't nitpick "specific things about those examples"?? Like how those examples are completely poor examples and not analogous at all because of the mass production and collapse of value due to overpopulation? No, I wouldn't say that I am trying to skew the argument by nitpicking. I am merely pointing put that, unlike when everyone and their kid brother had 14 issues of Spawn #1 and were told by Wizard that they were each worth $40, or when everyone had four pages of Bo Jackson Black and White Score cards and were told by Beckett that they were each worth $50, not everyone has an MM. Other hobbies were falsely inflated through hype and marketing B.S., and the house of card collapsed when everyone realized that there was no scarcity to drive value. Pinball machines are inflated because people with money are willing to part with their money to buy something that is getting older and decreasingly found on the market.
I didn't say you couldn't nitpick, just that you're not seeing the forest nitpicking the trees. I don't even disagree with you, well...mostly, on the quantity issue you're ranting about. I also don't really need your approval of "credibility", whoever you think you are, when my point is backed up by the market nature of every hobby...well...ever.
You wanna calm down and shake hands or still rant?
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