Quoted from Miguel351:How many modders even have business licenses? How many report their modding incomes to the IRS?
I know I do. Being audited isn't my idea of a good time, my books are clean and I pay my taxes.
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Quoted from Miguel351:How many modders even have business licenses? How many report their modding incomes to the IRS?
I know I do. Being audited isn't my idea of a good time, my books are clean and I pay my taxes.
Quoted from Baiter:Where did you come up with this fallacy?
Same place he pulls all his other cranky ideas about darn kids not playing pinball on location and diluting his precious. Just compliment the onion on his belt and don't make eye contact is my advice.
I'll also say that toppers, side art, shooter rods, basically anything Stern is offering have been commercial mainstays since before Pinside existed, let alone the modding community. They're hardly "stealing" anything. Furthermore it's highly unlikely they're going to go back and offer anything from their back catalog, so we're talking brand new games only.
If you're doing pinball mods as a full time business and trying to chase only the newest stuff then yeah, they're competition. They have the licenses and aren't as likely to look the other way as in the past. So it's strong competition. Just means you either have to be better and smarter and faster and cheaper (or some combination thereof) or instead focus on the decades of awesome existing games that people love.
I don't really see it as an issue myself. I will say as someone who dances around the grey areas of things (I do original art, but my projects are too small time to be able to be licensed) I wouldn't personally try and compete with Stern. Just seems like asking for more trouble than it's worth. But this isn't a job for me, I do it because I enjoy it, and it makes people happy, and the money I make from it just goes back into pinball. So Terry or Stern or the guy trying to sell his Fathom (hey, who's doing that? Let me know!) end up with any profits in the end.
Quoted from swampfire:Stern is "big business"? Are they "the man" too?
Stern is great. But they're not going to make or break on the backs of mods. They should focus on making better games.
Quoted from calvin12:I find it hard to believe anyone saw a $200 mod then said, damn now I gotta get a $5000 pin.
I've lost track of how many people told me they bought The Shadow after seeing my translite. Of course it's still probably less than 10.
Whatever, this whole "omg who does more for pinball" thing is a joke, I'm not going to engage in it. No one here owes anyone else anything. If I choose to have some fun making art and people choose to buy it then great. I do it because I want to, not because I feel obligated.
All I know is I enjoy it, and people are happy I do it and tell me so, and I enjoy that part too. It feels good to make people happy. If Stern makes something cool and you want it then buy it. I don't really begrudge them anything. It's just that their games could use a little more baking sometimes, and you wonder, could the prison on TWD have maybe been a little better if resources weren't sidelined into making a topper? Maybe that's unfair, but it's worth considering.
If they want a piece of the pie they have as much right as anyone to play the free market though.
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