Pretty much ANY DMD pin for $800 is a seal nowadays. These sell fast at $3000, and I usually see them around $4K+. Just dont try to sell one with lots of extras for well north of that

Chris

Hi guys, Anybody have some advice on polishing the gold Wire forms?

brass polish might help, that's about all you can use I think, metal polish will take off brass plating of the ramps

if you buy a kit, you will get robbed. just buy individual bulbs and be creative till you find what you like. Preferably white frosted in gi's and backbox. Frosted or clears in inserts.

DO NOT USE BRASSO!
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Thelaw, noted and fixed.

Brasso took my brass/gold coating right off my wireforms.

More info on the history of Brasso:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brasso

"In the US, the current Brasso product is not the same as the legacy product. The manufacturer, Reckitt Benckiser, has not produced the impregnated wadding version of the product for many years."

And its MSDS sheet for the US (other countries may vary apparently for abrasives):

https://tinyurl.com/Brasso-MSDS

Welp, I thought I had my opto issue fixed, but I guess not so much

So I was playing my PM tonight. I got one ball locked in teh trunk, and the machine delivered a new ball as expected (horray! My issues are fixed!!....welll......). Served up the second ball and went through the motions and also locked that ball in the trunk.

Great! Machine kicked another from the trough. I shot that ball, and the trogh kicker kept firing

Fired about 10-12 times then I got a message on the DMD "TROUGH MALFUNCTION".

Sadness.

I can only guess that I have an opto issue in the ball trouch, but everything SEEMS ok when I go through the testa (with actual ball movement, not jus breaking the planes).

Any ideas? Glad this wasn't headed to the show this weekend.

Thanks
Chris

Still trying to figure out this game, I have 2 balls locked in trunk, completed silence my critics.
I don't get what next target is?
The displays say's I think "power lock 2" what's next?

If you've completed the first six tricks and then silenced the critics it starts on the second set of six shots, the first of which is Metamorphosis which is hitting the three red standups below the ramp entrance. The light (or available) trick is always flashing next to the magician it's associated with, starting at the bottom and moving up then left to right and from left to right around each magician. The "Triple Power Play" is the second Matra Magna shot that you get to after completing the second six shots and is indicated by a flashing yellow insert in the triangle at Matra Magna (I'm probably spelling that wrong but don't have my game or manual near me). To complete that and move onto the final set of six tricks you have to lock 3 balls during the same ball, if you lose the ball it restarts and at no point does it actually matter how many balls are in the trunk, if you've only locked one during the current ball but there are two in there is will release one until it's at the point where hitting another ball up the ramp will be the third locked during that ball. Once you lock the third it starts a 3 ball Magic Mania Multiball with jackpot and jackpot multiplier lit.

Sounds like one or more transmitter optos have an issue. If you hadn't replaced them all already, I would. But before you do that, can you look at the transmitters on your camera phone to see if one is dim or not even lit up?

Thanks, that make a little more sense.

This was the issue with mine, tricky buggers thought it was the receiver however it was transmitters ...

Transmitter optos are on all the time when the game is on, so eventually they will fail. As I find 2 transmitter optos fail in any game, I change them all. Receivers rarely fail so I don't change any unless they fail.

Thanks. I will check all the transmitters also.

Chris

I have a NOS (New Old Stock) Bare Pinball Magic Playfield that I would sell - I haven't pulled it out to look at it as its been stored away for years - but I don't think it's Drilled or has T Nuts. Not sure if It is the one used in the game or a preproduction but if anyone is interested I can pull it out and get some pictures - I am asking $1000 for it and can bring to Allentown on Friday 5/4 if anyone is interested in it.

PM if interested.

Scott

Any suggestions? My display has gone out. It did this a few months ago and it was the small ribbon cord that came loose. This time it is not coming on and I noticed an unpleasant odor when i removed the backglass. Is there a way to trouble shoot? or anything I should look for? Thanks.

Take a picture of your 4"x4" DMD power board, which is to the left of the MPU when you drop the speaker panel down. I suspect a capacitor has leaked and shorted across another voltage rail.

I think you are on to something. Here is what I found pictured below. Can this be fixed? Or needs replacing?

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Playfield gradient? Anyone know what the factory % was, and or best % for normal play?

Thanks

standard DMD 6.5

Thank you for the help!

Can someone tell me the part number for the display driver board pictured above. When i do a search on the internest I am coming up with a few different numbers. Thanks.

It is a DMD power board. Hard to find board. A friend had bought one from Mr Pinball Australia as untested and found it did not put out any voltages. So that was a waste of money.

The part number might be on the board or at least listed on the schematic in the title block.

Might as well fix it. Doesn't have to be pretty, juts has to work.

I repaired 2 for Breakshot and because of a capacitor leakage shorting 2 voltage rails it had a high resistance internal short between some points. I had to cut some traces and run some wire to parts off the board. So at minimum the parts you circled and all the capacitors need to be changed, and possibly what I went through on the other boards if the resistance is lower than it should be measuring across some of the parts.

It definitely will not look pretty. I would not be surprised if there is a hole in the board as the other 2 boards I repaired.

Found the part number #A0015502 for Pinball Magic's DMD power board. Note the DMD power board is slightly different in Breakshot and will not work in Pinball Magic without modifying the board. httpwww.ipdb.orgfiles3596Capcom_1995_Pinball_Magic_Manual (resized).png

Thanks all for the replies. I am going to order a board and not try to repair. Is there anything that could be done to prevent this in the future? or was it just my lucky day.

Even though you buy a new board that is actually 15 years old, I would replace the capacitors because they are likely dried out. Electrolytic capacitors only have a certain shelf life even when they are not installed on a board.

Hopefully, as people upgrade to a ColorDMD, used DMD power boards will start becoming available. I have a ColorDMD in my game, but I am keeping the DMD power board as a reference in case I repair other boards in the future. It is helpful to have to test against when checking for resistance and shorts.

Here is one of the Breakshot DMD power boards I repaired. I didn't clean it up before snapping a picture because it was not on my mind at the time. Here you can see the board is damaged in the same area as yours. Since the board was damaged, I had cut traces and routed wires to bypass the damaged area.Breakshot DMD power board top (resized).jpg
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I suggest anyone with a DMD power board in any of their Capcom games to replace all five of the capacitors on the board to prevent future failures such as this one.

transprtr4u I know you had upgraded to a ColorDMD as well. Did you sell your DMD power board? Cinder143 sure could use one.

Okay, so I did find the part number on my board and it reads B0015502. I did a search on the net for a replacement and found nothing. Pinball parts Australia and Marco both have a A0015500 display board. Will this work? If not does anyone have a spare or a source for a new one? Thanks again.

I will say no because the D7 is not on the Pinball Magic power board and the pin out on J1 is different. So unless you want to modify it, it will not be a plug and play board. Looks like it might work on Breakshot since that is what I show in post #1130

I do... have been on Colordmd for over a year, due to work I have not been able to access my pins, the earliest I could check for the board would be mid June. Would an Airborne work as well , should has the same board sets? Have replaced that one as well !
Apologies just working 14-16 hour days!

We'll have to check the part number of the board in the manual. Hope to get back on that in a day or two.

Wait, we can use ColorDMD in Capcom machines? Do they have rom support or is just a sigma screen?

There is nothing on their website about Capcom Roms.

Chris

Sigma... I use blue or yellow... And the LCD screen in smooth!
(Chris this should add 3k to the price of your game) lol... Just kidding
Have been emailing Colordmd they are going to have to colour a Capcom eventually!

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ok, thanks. I emailed them yesterday as well. Maybe if more people email, they can do it

So in yours, do you have the Color LCD, or is that LED? It looks like a Color LED, but I wanted to make sure. And what did you order? I didn't see anywhere to order a non-game specific panel. Lastly, did you need to order any extra cables and how was the install? After adding a colorDMD (LCD) to our TOTAN, I ant one for every DMD game we have. Especially if it adds $3K! LOL

Chris

Sigma is not officially supported yet for Capcom games, so there is occasional flickering. I had the ability to install a LCD in my Pinball Magic and a LED into a friend's Breakshot, so I did it. I'm partial to the yellow since the color blends in well with the game.PM-yello (resized).png

Colordmd has no wiring for Capcom , I commissioned Kim from:

http://www.kimballspinballs.com/

To make a connector that would be a plug & play adaptor, it also has a splitter to run a topper or other desired mods ...
Hope this helps all ...

Interesting. I was wondering how the ColorDMD would fit in there with the whole metal shield thing on there. Does it repalce all the boards? Trying to wrap my head around how this mounts and what it replaces exactly.

In the meantime, I replaced my regular DMD with a new one. You can see why in this picture:

Pinball Magic Display

And in doing so the machine rewarded me with the best scre I ever got on it:

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Probably not really that great a score, but for me it was! LOL

Chrirs

Anyone come up with an extra display driver? My part number show b0015502. Thanks.

I trimmed off the top part of the shield allowing the LCD to stick up and through ... When I have time will send you a pic ...

Ok ... So found the pics ....

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Thank you for the pics. Does it have the "dots" option in the menu? I am not crazy about their blending setting, just personal preference.

Looks like there's some modification to do to get these into a Capcom machine.

Appreciate the follow up and pics.

Chris

I do not see why you have the DMD controller plugged in at all on the Pinball Magic. You disconnected the output voltage connector, so the input connector is really doing nothing for you.

I'm aware ... If I sell the unit will put the standard DMD back again, ditto for the Airborne!

Sell the unit...do you mean game? Airborne and PM are not long time keepers? So no plans to sell either DMD power board then?

I like the Scan... However multiple options for users tastes, including dots....
You do have to cut some of the top off ... For the LCD to poke through, the Colordmd LED display doesn't require it!
Later Chris ...