Does anyone know if you can buy the capcom decal for the apron? mine is a bit worse for wear and cannot seem to find a new one.

OP, I found all of the observations you posted from the PinGame Journal article to be extremely interesting. I have a PM which is either a sample or a prototype. I have been trying to find info about the early history of the making of PM with very little success. My machine has a partially torn manufacturers label on the back which seems to only say MAGIC, the manufacturer CAPCOM and a very unusual serial number. There is no warning text silkscreened on the back of the backbox and the paint is all original. The eproms all say only "Magic" and a date; most of them are handwritten, one is printed. The lighting in the backbox is not the large printed circuit board, but instead is all individual wired sockets. The game also has a handwritten label on the inside of the coin door which reads "#5 prototype R.E. test" and the name "Wally". The game is in beautiful original condition and the playfield could only be described as pristine. The game plays great and is a blast, and the playfield lighting effects are unbelievably gorgeous, a true masterpiece.

I am wondering if the first thoughts Capcom had as to naming the game was simply MAGIC or what. Any light you or anyone else can shine onto this for me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

You can. Try Ride the Bony Beast www.rtbb.com.au

http://www.rtbb.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2005

Sadly the owner Greg passed away a month or so ago, however Nino has taken over the business and is doing a great job.

This is 100% colored incandescant bulbs in the backbox, GI and inserts. I've added 4 comet optmax bulbs - three in spotlights and one standalone. Can you see where I've put them?

Two yellows on the slings, a green behind the hat and a red hidden behind the ramp entrance. Makes a big difference.

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Can you tell me how you powered the purple led light strip under the backbox? Is it on all the time or tied in with something that flashes ? Thanks

Thank you sir, the website isn't pulling up, but that could be due to an office firewall so will try once I am home.

My game is working aside from the drop targets not resetting correctly. They pop back up, but some do not always stay up. I also need to update the roms as I am on version 1.03.

That said the motor for the stage is really loud. Is it that way for everyone? If not any suggestions on cleaning it or ways to silence it?

Sure be happy too!

The lighting under the backbox, in the shooter lane and glow underneath are all tied together on one mod that is wired to two connectors that "Piggy Back" off of the connectors on the circuit boards themselves. They are all three on constantly once you turn the machine on. This is how Chris sends it to you with instructions on which connectors you plug them into. IT is nice to note that if you ever want to "turn off" any of these you can disconnect them individually from his wiring harness that does not require you to unplug them at all from the circuit board.

There is also the interactive light show which ties into the flashers etc underneath and only comes on during game play and is cool because sometimes it is solid colors and other times it is mutiple colors. It is on a separate wiring but is also tied into the circuit board using the "piggyback" system. Again if connect to the circuit board but the wiring harness has a separate connector if you want to unplug it for someone who does not like all of the flashing.

Nope that is the coin door which marco has. I need the one on the apron. They do have a number of parts I cannot get from marco though so thank you all the same.

No worries, I just assumed they were the same but now see there is one that looks like the coin door one but with a border around it.

Pinball Spare Parts Australia - www.pinballspareparts.com.au stock Capcom as well but I don't know about those stickers.

What about the LED OCD board for this, I wonder if Herg has any hopes of making a cable set compatible with Capcoms, or if it's even possible. Seems like this system, more so than any other he has made them for, requires it the most, but is of course the least produced.

I love mine. LED's do not work and you totally spoil the lighting fading effects if you try to use them. can you use them? Sure, but you will take away a shitload of the ambiance that the game creates because of the way the GI's are handled. Plus some insert features are lost if you try and use LED's. Like Jinx has a progressive fade to the insert. The more faded it is, the less points you get for the side drain. Try to put LED's in there and you lose the effect totally. Not every game has to have LED's in it. Just like the stupid shaker thing. There are only about 4 or 5 games in existence that have any business even having a shaker. All the rest, is just fall under the category of, "how much shit can I pile into my game?".

Wow Neo, I agree with you for once, but all this stuff is really personal preference anyway, and I like supporting the idea that a big chunk of the appreciation of this hobby is the personal customization.

Colour dipped 44's and 555's, provided they are not the E or 47s, may have to be the best option. Still wondering about the OCD board though, as this machine LED'd, with the effects, would be sweet.

I'll point out this post to Bryan Hansen (the guy who designed the game) when he gets in today. If you guys have any questions for him, fire away, and I'll try to get him to answer.

I have been a pest to Herg and the OCD for this game. He did say the he has been slowly looking at this and working with someone on some OCD boards for this. Although if completed it would be costly due to the number of boards. I for one love LED's and think it brings the machines into the 21st century, as well as deduce the heat and keep things lasting longer. Although my Pinball magic is incandescent and is the only game in my collection that is. So it stands out like a dull yellow machine.

I for one would have NO problem paying $300 to $500 for the ability to LED this game. What does everyone else think. remember invisaglass is $300. Color DMD are $$, I don't see this extra cost for ocd boards for this machine and other capcoms a issue. But please chime in. If enough of us want it, I guess you never know what could happen if there is demand for it!

magicchiz

I would love to one one again... Cat screech right lane drains,

got one, enjoy it a lot, and sold it to make the turn
a very good pin for sure, heavy builded, great theme, music & light effect (no LED on that pin please - as said by Neo)

the only "prob" was the way rules were made : no random, always to be made in the same order, than could be boring in a way (but in fact its not)...
when you get the shots, killing Matra is not to difficult

Thanks Hogbog. You can start by passing on my thanks to Bryan for making such an awesome game that has brought me and others a lot of joy. The uniqueness of the pin and back story alone make it such a pleasure to own. I have a few questions.

Were the wireforms gold powdercoat or gold plate? Mine are gold powdercoat, but someone else on Pinside claims they were plated.

In my game which is an Italian re-import, at one point Magna speaks Italian. She is saying something followed by a count down from I think 10 to 1. The rest of the game is English. Does Bryan know anything about this?

The Pinball Magic flyer shows a machine with stainless steel armour and legs. The production machines were powdercoated black. What were Bryan's wishes for the trim? I've had mine chromed and its a perfect fit for the machine.

What's Bryan up to nowadays?

Cheers and thanks for bringing The Great Hansen to his fans.

wireforms are plated like shadow.

Siderails and lockdown bar on the protos are stainless. Black powdercoat on legs, lockdown bar and siderails on production.

How do you tell which legs belong on a capcom? Mine are stainless. My game is noticeably taller than my BF so I am guessing they are williams legs?

"The red rubber rings look cool. I wonder if they are more, less, or have about the same bounce and reaction to the balls as the mostly blacks one the game is usually outfitted with?"

As far as I can tell they have the same bounce and longevity as the normal ones. I saw no difference when testing the game. These are the standard Titan colored rings not the new competition ones. I am going to try those for the first time in my Addams this week when they arrive...

If you have not used Titan they ship really fast and have great customer service as far as my interaction.

I will be joining this club today! Paying for my new Pinball Magic today. Not sure when I will be picking it up, but the seller sent some great photos Can't wait!

Chris

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Congrats Chris you are going to love it! I don't own one but this was the most challenging restore I have done and in the process made a new friend who is also a pinsider. It is a fun one!

Cool!

Question for you if I may.......I removed the mylar on my Breakshot and Airborne with great success. Did you remove the mylar on the one you restored? Just wondering if PM had the same great factory finish that the others did.

Thanks!
Chris

The only Mylar mine had was around the pop bumper, that came off easy with canned air

The original mylar was still there and covered the main playfield. I did not remove it at the customers request but it did have a few small snags in the mylar but not enough to warrant removing it. This one was in great shape to start with so it cleaned up very nice. I only replaced the slingshot plastics as the left one had a chip and I could only buy new ones in a pair. I still have the old ones other than the chip in the left one they are in good shape.

Thanks. I had great results on Airborne and Breakshot. Mine has mylar on the main field as well.

Thanks for the reply! I will have to see how it looks in person.

Chris

NP Chris-This was extremely challenging to tear down and rebuild so feel free to PM me if you want to collaborate when you are ready to shop it out. I can send you pics of the more difficult areas and what I found. Getting the ramp off is TRICKY!

That would be great, thank you

Chris

I did a total restoration on my Pinball Magic several years ago. I found a trashed game and put a NOS playfield and NOS plastics. I also repainted the cabinet. The rails and legs were trashed so I found some truck bed liner spray paint that matched perfectly.

Many weeks of work but I think it was worth it. This game has two of the coolest toys in pinball. Lots of other things were done. I put Williams flipper assemblies in the game because Capcom flipper parts are impossible to find. If anybody has a line on a decent coin door please let me know. Mine doesn't have any parts on the back side.

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Wow PappyBoyington, amazing!

Pinball Magic is a great game!

I am not sure I understand why people do this. I did some digging on RGP and found that DE coil stops with washers can work. Have also read that williams plungers are a perfect fit. Capcom flipper bushings and flippers are still available if you know where to look. The only thing i haven't researched is the flipper return spring.

When you have nothing to start with then you would understand. Show me where to get a clamp shaft. Show me where to get a actuator assembly. Show me where to get a flipper assembly base. There are a few other parts needed and maybe you could find some other parts that may do ok but I wasn't looking to jerry rig my flippers.

Williams flippers do just fine and the parts are easily available. I know all the places to look and there wasn't anything. If you can find me all the parts then show me. I would love to be proven wrong here.

Thanks man. This game is never leaving my house. Lots of great memories working on it.

Is there any place to find a trunk cover?

Thanks Wesley. It was a labor of love.

FANTASTIC WORK!!!! The one I restored was in great shape to start with so it was really just a full detailed shop job. What you did was awesome to bring that back to life. Obviously you put a lot of time and heart into this. Don't worry about comments picking at tiny details its yours and you put a tremendous amount of work/heart/time into it. You should be praised for taking the time to make it as accurate and beautiful as possible and I wish more people would appreciate that. Congrats!!!

Base is available, but the bigger question is why are you trying to piece together the entire flipper from scratch? Unless the machine has been cannibalized flipper rebuilds are much less intensive. Replacing the entire assembly because parts that don't need to be replaced aren't available is throwing the baby out with the bath water.

THE BIGGER QUESTION is why you are so upset about this. If this really bothers you please start a thread about it. THE POSTER did an incredible job for what he had available for Capcom games. This is why I stop posting restoration details or pictures because no matter how much hard work or effort you put into it it just does not seem to ever be good enough for some people. They will ignore all the good and beauty and hard work and laser beam focus on one small detail that THEY would have done differently. Restoration on pinball machines is not an exact science and you do the best you can with the resources/money you have available. You have to make decisions and modifications along the way that are many times a personal preference to you, the owner of the machine, or the owner of the machine you are restoring. A crime has not been committed here he said he loves it and he is keeping the machine. IT LOOKS INCREDIBLE and he should be praised for bringing a trashed machine back to life.

Thank you for this! Could you please refer to my observations and questions about my machine in my previous post (#52) in this thread? Thank you again.

The only one who seems upset is you.

PappyBoyington has a valid view, but this is a forum. There are multiple options as to how to rebuild worn Capcom flippers and it is very valid to discuss these in a thread dedicated to a Capcom game. Just knowing what is and is not available is valuable for anyone reading this. The more of these games that can be brought back the better.

My point is it would be more valuable if you had posted a link to where he can obtain the parts or some step by step or pictures or details of what you did to over come this problem. My issue is not with you it is how many times people post pictures or details of work they are proud of and are immediately critiqued with no helpful information or even positive feedback. All I saw in your post was criticism of what he did to his own personal machine and when he asked you to show him where he could get parts you gave him nothing but more criticism. He did bring this game back to life and you are correct in that.

I have one designed, it's been forever. I just need to get it fit again. I hold my head in shame for not finishing it. Someday.

Reread his post. He wanted an all or nothing solution. No substituting parts. His view is that you either use originals for everything or you gut it and replace with WPC. There was no point in listing. So, to that end stop trying to play White Knight and lets get back on topic.

ON Topic- You actually did raise a very valid point about flippers and I for one would love to see some information on using "DE" parts that you have researched or any links/details to Capcom flipper parts that you said are readily available. Please post these things as they WOULD be beneficial to all Capcom and PM owners.

I don't mind "constructive" criticism I think it is VERY important to a forum. I just saw very little substance in your post that would benefit anyone. I actually think you have a valid point and that you have a lot to offer and could really give some good and encouraging feedback on the flipper rebuild process but that is not what I saw.

Per RGP From 2011

A HUGE thank you to Nancy at Marco. Customer service there can't be beat and here's why. After calling several other places I got ahold of Nancy and she started thinking that another plunger/link combo might work. She went and grabbed one made for a Medieval Madness. We measured both and confirmed they would be just about spot on so I went ahead and orderd.

Package just showed up and I put it side by side with the Capcom part and the link is a match measurement wise and the plunger is just a hair longer. I popped it in and fired it up and finally got my first game of Pinball Magic in with both flippers working perfect!

I ordered two to get them both the same but honestly, there's no noticeable difference right now between the two. Both seem to raise the same distance.

So for all those needing to replace worn Capcom plunger/links, checkout A-22020 at Marco!!!!!

http://www.marcospecialties.com/product.asp?ic=A-22020

Original Coil Stops for Flippers: http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/A-00378-1

Was wrong the replacement is to use a Williams coil stop with washers. See here: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/capcom-flipper-coil-stop

Cannot Access any of the australian parts sites from work, but flipper bats and bushings were available on RTTB. Also have seen posts about using someone else's EOS switches in place of capcom. All in all the only thing I have not looked seen albeit have not looked for is the return spring.

It seems a lot of you people are looking for Pinball Magic parts. I might be able to help some of you as I have some original parts from Capcom. I would just need to know what parts you need and I could check to see if I have them.

Great Research. Thanks for posting this!