CSI. -Abreviation CSI

Also MMR is absent

haha
-mof

Oh, I didn't realize you had that option -- were doing that with other games?

People won't die if they have to spell out Waterworld once a year. Whirlwind on the other hand, is a frequently discussed game. To be honest, of the 30+ pinball people I've met in the last 2 years, I've never heard anyone discuss Waterworld in person either.

-mof

I have just added the option to have multiple listings for an abbreviation (with the last site update). If you have suggestions, now that this is possible, please mention it in this thread and I will add them. I think for building the feature I only tested (and added) WW for Whirlwind and Waterworld. There must be more games sharing an abbreviation.

++Pinball Terminology++

This one seems to be popping up more and more often:

HEP - High End Pins, as referred mostly to restorations, not titles themselves.
HEP MM is not what it sounds to be overall in 99.99% of all cases.
It is being EXTREMELY abused, because a lot of collectors believe "shopping and waxing" constitutes HEP.

It does not.

HEP originally was designated for machine that had games using NOS playfields / backglasses installed, complete cabinet overhauls with either new decals, silk screening, or stencils, every single metal part being tumble polished, under and on top of the playfield, board component replacement (bridge rectifiers and capacitors) even if there are no problems, along with rewiring and connectors if required.
This takes HUNDREDS of hours to do, not 100 hours or less.
Only a few companies and individuals do this (VERY FEW NOW), and the costs reflect the work, as the machine is essentially restored to factory condition NIB.

Hi robin

#funhouse-20-rudys-nightmare is an add-on kit for the original FunHouse

It is unclear to me why it is being cataloged as a separate pin and not as a new version considering Funhouse 2.0 (Rudy's Nightmare) must be installed on a FunHouse and it plays both games.

I've added both to my collection but really it's only a single pin.

And what will the abbreviation be for Funhouse 2.0 (Rudy's Nightmare) ?

#FH2 ?

Add-on kits or conversion kits are distinctly different from the original game they are based upon. There are several past examples, such as BOP 2.0, the multimorphic kits, Gamatron, Professional Pinball, 301 Bullseye, La Retata

If you really only have the one game, I'd suggest dropping FH from your collection list, and leave FH 2.0 on your list. FH2.0 is significantly different in that it includes a new boardset and display, and new game code, which the original funhouse doesn't have.

We don't determine what the game abbreviations will be. That sort of happens organically every time a new game comes out. Depending on the game title and if other games used the same letters, sometimes the abbreviation is obvious, sometimes not.

As do all versions of the Cactus Canyon Remakes. New boardsets, new displays, and new game code which the original does not. Furthermore, they both have the option to switch between the original and the new game. I don't believe you've necessarily proved your point as to why FunHouse and Funhouse 2.0 (Rudy's Nightmare) shouldn't be somehow linked together.

The Reason I ask about the abbreviation is FH2.0 is intuitive but I am uncertain if the use of a dot [.] is permissible within a hashtag.

It would be unfortunate to begin 'organically' using FH2.0 if it won't ever link because of the dot [.]

Can you clarify?

The CC original and remakes *do* each have separate game entries. As do all the other remake titles.

That's not quite how the feature works. The hashtag is based on the full game title. The abbreviations get highlighted/linked automatically.

Like this: CC, CV, TS

Yes, and they are linked under the heading "Game alternative versions". Whereas FH2.0 can only be installed on an original FH and it plays both the original code as well as the new 2.0 game (just as the CC remakes do) then why isn't there a new game group for FunHouse that lists FunHouse AND Funhouse 2.0 (Rudy's Nightmare) as a "Game alternative version"?

Considering they both play the original game I don't understand the logic of not having them grouped.

WoW. Reviving an 11 yr old thread. Nice!

I don't understand what you're getting at. They are grouped.