KISS (Pro)
Stern, 2015Hey Everyone,
Just wanted to show a quick look at a new mod that we made for Stern's new KISS machine.
This little device will block most of the lighting bleed between the KISS letters on the left side of the playfiled allowing you to distingush between the individual letters. It makes hitting the KISS letter hurry-up much more intuitive.
More info here:
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=3741
Pictures:
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Thanks Brian! The original design was to have the letters cut out individually, which in theory, sounded good, but in practice, it did not let enough light through with the stock LED boards. This was the final result that looks outstanding compared to the previous revisions. Also, we had to be careful not to make anything too close to the KISS logo as we want to stay away from copyright issues.
--Scott
Quoted from Trekkie1978:Is that for pro only or does it apply to the premium/LE as well?
Right now it is just for the pro as we do not yet have our LE machine to try it in. Once we get our machine, we will know for sure and I will update this thread.
Thanks,
--Scott
Quoted from Frax:This should have been factory. I was bitching to our local crew about this on day one...it's THAT bad.
agreed. this was something that I noticed immediately when playing the game for the first time (it was extremely difficult to determine which letters were scored). something this simple being missed during the design phase is downright unacceptable.
way to take lemons and make lemonade scott! 
Quoted from jwilson:It probably wasn't missed, but was costed out.
That and/or its just a bad design and they didn't care. It's the same thing they did on Xmen and Tron, but the difference there is that even though there is a HUGE insert there, the art on top of it masks out the excess light on it's own. These little SMD LEDs throw light EVERYWHERE and it's a big white translucent insert with big white translucent dots in the letters. It's a design failure, for sure, regardless of the original intent. If the art had simply been a little different instead of having that big white box around all the letters, it would likely be a non issue.
Quoted from Frax:It's the same thing they did on Xmen and Tron, but the difference there is that even though there is a HUGE insert there, the art on top of it masks out the excess light on it's own.
I dunno, the first thing I thought when I saw this was, hmm, could you make one of these for Tron? 
Quoted from Aurich:I dunno, the first thing I thought when I saw this was, hmm, could you make one of these for Tron?
I'm using frosted LEDs and I don't have an issue with it. If you're using un-capped or clears it might be substantially worse.
Nice and much needed. That was something that caught me right off about the game that I did not like.
Quoted from Frax:I'm using frosted LEDs and I don't have an issue with it. If you're using un-capped or clears it might be substantially worse.
I mean, it's not terrible, but the light does bleed some.
Always thought the same thing about the TRON Insert.
LE has the same generic Cool White LED PCB's and their light goes everywhere.
Quoted from Aurich:Scott, you need some photos and measurements for Tron?
Send them over!
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