A little Novus and she'll be right as rain...

Sad, and trashed. Is Deluxe hand painted on that BG? I don't remember ever seeing an RFDE out in the wild.

Definitely...someone grab that friggin thing. I like the operator conversion / or possible mock off explanations. I've seen some games before where operators combined games or did something funky with them. I once saw a CE3K head on a Hulk body....and even worse, the guy tried telling me that with the head and body being different, that made the game worth more. Yeah...worth throwing in a dumpster.

Man...what a shame. RIP.

Ad said "backglass has some flaking".

I had to.

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Yup...good eye. BM66. From the cab thread...thought it would be fitting over here.

Wow, what a shame.

What a waste with them just sitting there...

Dolly just needs a little CP100....

Really, what a shame...those are some depressing pics. At least you're able to salvage some parts. And I do not understand why you ever see cut harnesses. No idea what people are thinking sometimes...or they are just clearly not.

That thing is beyond dirty. Wow...what a shitshow. Good luck on the restore, and thanks for saving another one and hopefully getting it back into circulation. Is that brown fluid sticky?

This is one of those times where you lift the playfield and all you're thinking is "what...the...f@#$"?

Looks like it would taste like cinnamon....or motor oil. Plate cleaned up nicely though, now for the rest of the game.

Funny Vid... and I really didn't expect you to taste it. LOL. Can you use Evaporust on a transformer?

I see the difference in paint tones/fade. What the hell did they have mounted there?

That would fit the gaping hole in the side and plate would explain the paint preservation under...but I can honestly say I've never seen a pin with an actual lightswitch mounted anywhere.

I've definitely seen a fair share of doorbells and odd "credit buttons." Had to remove one from my old GTB Spidey. The key for credits on your TZ just sounds funky....nothing that people do ever surprises me anymore. But a full size light switch tunneled through the side of a game? That is just ridiculous. He should have installed another service outlet through the side while he was at it.

Holy crap...that Tomcat was clearly on the losing end of that dogfight. Definitely a shame. Talk to me Goose...

Luckily that wasn't listed on here for sale as HUO.

Might be a troll...post didn't make sense, no games in collection, just looks like a ghost account since March.

What a sad and irritating story...glad that you mentioned the price he could have gotten if he just left it alone, and the proverbial kick in the sack that must have given him. At least you got some good parts out of it. If you did shoot a pic of the bottom of the PF, please post it. It will make me feel better about even the worst of projects I have sitting around.

Whatever it is...it's a damn shame what they did to it. At least the rubbers look like they're still good

They at least could have made the design symmetrical...

I gotta say, as bad as that is, at least they had the decency or courtesy to remove or cover the metal parts before they defiled the game (well, for the most part now that I saw the bottom of the coin door). I had a D&D before that had some spray paint on it, and they sprayed right over the coin door and legs with the "re-design".

What shattered glass? The guy said that was a mod

Somebody thought it would be a good idea to install a credit button in the front of the cabinet, by gouging a monstrous hole in it.

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Yeah, pretty recent. It is a challenging game, with pretty decent artwork. A lot of colors. It was actually one of the first games that I got years ago when I got into the hobby, but sold it after a few months to move up to an alpha numeric. Interesting that the one produced down under is different.

That pile is just a shame. Made me nauseous just to look at it. What a waste....so many great titles in there

Plastics are a little warped on the Space Ship I picked up. Hopefully this one goes from mold to gold too. Cool game and rare.

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I would definitely spend a weekend going through that. Probably some hidden gems in there, especially the stuff indoors.

OMG again. Haunted House, EBDLE, Fire, Taxi...looks like a Catacomb? I'll jump on a plane and cross the pond to help you go through it.

^^^ I second that. For one, eBay as a price guide? Never. For two, any DE game worth $4k? Rarely, with the exception of SW and GNR. If JP is a $4k game, then my very cherry BF is worth $7k (DE became Sega, and so on).

Ummm......the side and top plastics look decent. Game looks like a total shit show.

^^^ Drop targets and plastics look like they're in good shape. Just needs a playfield.

The top plastics are slightly warped on mine. I wonder if they would just sell me the plastics off of that mess they created. What a shame.

Come on Levi!! Seems like you're always up for a challenge. A little Novus, a hazmat suit and about 500 gallons of CP 100 and that thing will be right as rain.

And it has the beer cap mod above the burned inserts. Did the seller say "it wasn't in a fire... ok ok ok ok ok ok"?

I'd pay $400 for that too...just because it looks complete and salvageable, and deserves to be brought back to life. The G.I. is lighting, so there's some life in it even in that condition. The boards might be nice. Just needs a fuse

Even so, an LW3 project for 400 bucks sounds good to me. Tell him I'll come up and take it if the other guy doesn't.

LW3 these days commonly sells for $900 to $1500. And why would the playfield have to be swapped? Playfields can be repaired. Sure it wouldn't be collectors quality, but just to make it a players game, it would be feasible to have a decal made for the burnt portion of the playfield, which could easily be done with a simple scan of a perfect PF.

Yeah, that looks pretty gross. I've arrived at houses in that condition to look at a game, and opted not even to make it through the front door. If someone goes, bring a hazmat suit and some Doc Martens.

A couple brackets and a couple screws and it will be perfect.

I've gotten that answer quite a few times, gotta love it. As if somebody had something that plugs in and takes up that much space for that long...and never even tried it.

Came across this little gem earlier. I don't get a title that says "all salvageable parts removed". I see a ton of wireforms, PF parts, display, lamp boards, etc. that were destroyed for no good reason...even the cabinet. What d-bags, and what a waste. The whole game actually looked easily salvageable to me.

RIP. It had a long life.

That is a total shame, especially on a TAF. Horrible.

Get me a bottle of Novus (or 30), and my tool box! (and some wood for a new cab, a repro PF, some new ramps, a ton of coils, some mechs, some wire, a coin door, new boards, Molex connectors, new legs, a repro plastic set, etc..........)

Speaker panel and apron look salvageable.

On second glance, the ramps look pretty salvageable too...might clean up nice. Wireform could be saved or powdercoated. Still an absolute mess the way it sits now, and a damn shame.

Ironic.

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It looks like the Monte Carlo has some playfield wear...I'll take a ride to save both games if they're free and still sitting there. Cab looks pretty nice on the Royal Flush.

I'd only have to tresspass for 20 minutes to get them both loaded.

Finally back after having to take a break for some surgery and being laid up. What a mess.

ForceFlow actually sent me some more info on the warehouse. If I could confirm they are still there, we could definitely take a ride. Nothing like a little breaking and entering to save some pins.

Man, how could somebody let that happen to a BK2000?

Both playfields?

That was my take. It even looks like there is some moisture damage on the light panel in the backbox (swelling around lamp sockets on lower half).

I’d still take it just in case it could be saved. Although as jmount said, not an easy glass to find. Just ask this guy that had his backglass-less game at Pinfest.

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WTF? I might expect to see that on an older board, but a Rottendog? I know sometimes they use cheapy fuse clips that I’ve had to replace right out of the box because they snap, but I’ve never seen one blown out like that.

Restoration started on Gorgar. Speaker replaced: Check.

Found this in a box of boards I grabbed. Some more fabulous board artistry...

“You don’t have to remove a cap and replace it...you can solder a new one right next to it bro!”

“And screw resistors...let’s just tap some transistors in...um....here and here.”

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What are you talking about dude? This board did not leave the factory like that. And I’m assuming the game worked perfectly fine when it was sold NIB.

And I’m sure you believe that jumper wire from the transistor to the back of the board is how it’s supposed to be as well.

Either way, this PSB did not leave the factory with those transistors in place. They were added, so it’s a hack, “improvised repair” or modification.

And your comments that I “don’t know how it’s supposed to be” and “I’ll yell it’s wrong so I look smart” are condescending and unnecessary.

I have my collection history listed here, at least a good portion of games I’ve owned, unlike you. Take a look. I have owned over 10 System 1 games and have repaired several others, and I have never seen this on a power supply in one of them. So in my experience, my comments were appropriate.

No need to be derogatory towards other members in this thread. Keep that crap in the clown puke thread where all the other curmudgeons hang out.

You’ve agreed the board is a mess, and that is the purpose of this thread.

I never said I know it all, I said in my experience. And if that’s the case as you and ForceFlow posted, then I stand corrected and learned something.

That doesn’t change the fact that the way you post on here is condescending and rude. Lighten up man...it’s a friggin hobby.

Always have one handy in the game room. You never know...

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Thanks and definitely. It’s that time of year!! My daughter’s fav holiday.

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A little Novus, about 20 gallons of CP100 and about 40 hours of cleaning she might be ok

Beehive looks ok, at least the one on the shooter housing. Man, what a shame.

You probably have an extra glass in storage somewhere, right?

^^ Kudos on saving what you did.

Playfield doesn’t look horrendous. Was it outside and rained on / exposed to the elements? Looks like the plastics and some other parts might be salvageable if the bottom and mechs are all rusted out.

^^^ Was waiting for that. My buddy sent me this yesterday, I was laughing my ass off for 5 minutes straight. For those who didn’t see it, just scroll down through the “Captions” chrono under the “Description” section.

https://www.captiongenerator.com/1151792/Stern-Pinball-announces-The-Beatles-pinball

I’ll take the boards out of it for mine sitting out in the garage!! Bought it for my nephew...a year ago. Guy said it worked, and he was FOS. PSB was crapped out.

It actually has a real screened BG, so I would grab that one out there just to hang that on the wall.
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I’ve also had tempered glass with chips in it before. It can happen.

In my experience, stools are just an accident waiting to happen.

I get these at Lowe’s, the best $18 you’ll ever spend for a set of two. Each one can hold up to 800 pounds, no risk of tipping. When people come to buy games or I pick one up, they always like the idea and I frequently just tell them to take one and I buy more. I think I’ve given away about 20 of them to Pinsiders in the last few years.

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Well the ad said playfield only has minimal wear, so at least that was accurate.

As for the coin door, that was definitely a shotgun (or a bow and arrow)

Personally, I like installing the Clapper on my pins. Clap on...clap off.

You just have to make sure you don’t clap in celebration in the middle of a killer game.

My Joust doesn’t have a stock switch either. Just some weird button underneath the cabinet that apparently does nothing.

Not at all. Obviously easier if one person holds the game up and another one slides the horse under the back legs. But it’s also simple to hold the game up with one hand and/or your knee briefly and slide it into place with your other hand or foot.

You’re really only holding the game up for a few seconds. I’ve seen old-school guys and operators that hold the damn game on their knee the entire time they are bolting in or unbolting the legs.

Didn’t I give you one? I thought I did. Likewise, I’ve done it about 200 times. Easy as cake.

I’d buy that Mephisto glass too!! Ask him if he wants to sell it? I’ll pay you a finders fee and to package it up!

And an HH, Xenon, Spectrum and a damn Spirit. All great games. Man, that is depressing.

Damn that sucks. What a waste. All hope is not lost. Tell him I’ll be over with a jackhammer...or maybe a rock hammer.

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Man...right through the playfield. I never understood that..people do realize that screws come in different lengths right?

Apron actually looks like it held up pretty well too, considering the condition of the game and no PF glass.

This was mine and how that game should be done.

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It’s all good. Mitch customarily downvotes my posts. I’ve decided to take a break from engaging people on here. It’s not worth the energy.

I gotcha. I don’t need to turn off the voting system, and I know you don’t like colored GI from the other thread. Everybody is entitled to an opinion. Thanks for the input.

You guys are making it real tough for me not to engage.

But honestly, give me a break. I had two blue bulbs under the ball return plastics, and one blue LED strip mounted under the backbox. The rest is cool white. His game is “puked” and you can’t even see the art, mine was not.

I guess the color display on mine was disgusting as well.

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The first pic was the other guy’s game from above that I just reposted so it could be contrasted with my Frank (bottom pic). Thanks Craig.

Absolute blasphemy that I have two red bulbs in the center of my Vampire. Totally ruins the game and it’s now unplayable. I’m going home to remove them immediately.

Let’s all just get along.
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Yeah, I was iffy to use cool white in an EM game. But when I tried warm or sunlight LED’s the game started screaming and turning to ash.

Definitely. I saw a Superman in there. I could use a better apron for mine!

Agreed. That Avatar and TSPP are pretty bad. I feel compelled to mail them a few bottles of Novus and CP100. (and maybe a backbox bulb for AC/DC)

Another one left outside for Mother Nature to attack. And $775?

Maybe at least pull the leaves off the backglass before you take the pictures.
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That’s definitely just a fuse.

Does this count?

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Yeah man!! I rethemed a Jungle Lord.

Working on the playfields right now, and the backglass should be done in the next month or so... hopefully. Have someone making five of them. Real backglass...no translites here.

Here’s my retheme / build thread.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/halloween-jc-retheme-this-is-gonna-be-killer

The Bally playfield glass mounted in the frame, mostly on EM’s, was tempered out of the factory. But keep in mind if you replace it, it is a different size than standard PF glass.

Marco carries it. I believe it’s 41.5 inches, compared with standard at 43.

I actually still have a very nice one that I restored for my daughter when she was younger. Picked it up as a total shit show. It’s a fun game for kids, and costs next to nothing.

I even powdercoated the legs, which is probably half of what the machine is worth.

I’m absolutely certain no one else on all of Pinside can say they have a restored Wico Big Top. LOL.

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You have to get in the subway beneath the top stand up, then lock the first two balls to get Bearded Lady multiball. You can stack modes to get to Greatest Showman on Earth Wizard mode.

Just kidding.

To hit the spinner, and mainly the stand ups to accumulate higher points. That’s about it. Like I said, it’s a good starter game for kids. And it’s only 3/4 size. Pretty much the same as the old home use Bally games.

Haha. We’ll see how I’m feeling after Halloween is done.

Simple design, but is it wrong that I like that playfield?

And a red cab JL too. Certainly the more attractive of the two versions.