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Pinball Hall of Fame to close


By timarnold

1 year ago



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    #151 1 year ago

    OK,for better,or worse,Im in for a c-note!!! Can't loose much with that,might even gain some!!!

    #152 1 year ago

    Is there a character limit on the “listings”? I wanted to do a donation for my kids and we have a big last name. The 2 first names + spacing + last name would be 25 characters

    #153 1 year ago
    Quoted from SuperDaveOsbourn:

    Or better yet, start your own 'museum' arcade like so many others have done and tried, and see how it actually goes for ya. Get back to us in 2-3 years when you have either failed to live up to the standards you set, or fail and go out of 'business', or succeed. I'm hedging there is a no-start-at-all in the armchair online pinball charity people.

    I operate a fraction of the pins at the PHoF and truer words were never spoken.

    #154 1 year ago

    We can't even keep the couple dozen machines in our collection working all the time. I wouldn't want to be the guy trying to keep a couple hundred machines that are getting played daily working 100%. I agree Tim could do certain things better but I am also 100% sure he is doing things better than 99% of us would if we were in his shoes. It is easy being a Monday morning quarterback but it isn't easy getting things right all the time when 100% of everything is on your shoulders. But what impresses me the most about PHOF is the money given to charity - who else in the hobby has done anything even close?

    #155 1 year ago

    I get it. 80-hour weeks since I arrived in March, and still lots to do. We have 1/3 of what he does.

    Tim is a maniac, but he understands the demands of reality.

    #156 1 year ago

    I like the location and plan on signing up as a member. The picture of the pinball game is not a bad idea on the building, but it might be easier just put your name on the roof and some type of artwork? IDK just throwing it out there if you decided to do something like that. What would be cool is maybe construct a multi-level(s) building. Double your space. You can have the upper level(s) for VIP or special museum pieces or do whatever you think is best? You'll be able to gain more space on the same amount of land?

    BTW - Congrats! I've always enjoyed going to your place on my visits to Vegas. It is my first stop aside from the hotel. I'd much rather drop $20-30 playing pinball than chasing my money in the casinos. I hope this turns into something really great! You absolutely deserve all the best!!

    #157 1 year ago

    Having just been there this week... I doubt they will get much foot traffic... it's still pretty damn far south. But it is at least a lot more accessible and a cheaper car ride.

    I just wish we had a commitment to the facility/idea beyond Tim's time.

    #158 1 year ago
    Quoted from flynnibus:

    I just wish we had a commitment to the facility/idea beyond Tim's time.

    five golden tickets and a good deed should take care of it.

    #159 1 year ago
    Quoted from Dan63:

    What would be cool is maybe construct a multi-level(s) building. Double your space. You can have the upper level(s) for VIP or special museum pieces or do whatever you think is best?

    Building upwards is surely more cost effective than what land costs in vegas, however I'm positive that the difference between building a single level building and a 2-story is dramatically different in cost because of the support structure you need to build to ensure that upper level can handle the weight of both people and the machines (plus you've potentially made your HVAC system more complicated and expensive because heat rises and you may need even more cooling on the 2nd floor).

    -5
    #160 1 year ago

    Glad to hear the HOF will live on!

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    #161 1 year ago
    Quoted from toyotaboy:

    Building upwards is surely more cost effective than what land costs in vegas, however I'm positive that the difference between building a single level building and a 2-story is dramatically different in cost because of the support structure you need to build to ensure that upper level can handle the weight of both people and the machines (plus you've potentially made your HVAC system more complicated and expensive because heat rises and you may need even more cooling on the 2nd floor).

    I agree, but just wanted to put it out there as an after thought. I hope that the PHOF will continue to grow at its new location. It's my favorite stop in Vegas along with the Blueberry Hill Café / diner.

    #162 1 year ago
    Quoted from Dan63:

    It's my favorite stop in Vegas along with the Blueberry Hill Café / diner.

    Ironically, the empty Albertsons grocery store the LVPCC tried to buy was in the shopping center that had a Blueberry Hill. It closed a few years ago as the shopping center owner jacked up the rent. That one was my favorite.

    #163 1 year ago
    Quoted from MrBally:

    Ironically, the empty Albertsons grocery store the LVPCC tried to buy was in the shopping center that had a Blueberry Hill. It closed a few years ago as the shopping center owner jacked up the rent. That one was my favorite.

    They closed the café? Its been a few years since I was there.

    #164 1 year ago
    Quoted from Dan63:

    They closed the café? Its been a few years since I was there.

    The one on Sunset & Eastern, yes. The other three on Flamingo and one on Decatur are all still there.

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    #165 1 year ago

    I’m excited to see this awesome progress, but tphf should consider some of the comments in this thread.

    I was so excited when my wife took me there for my birthday, but we were both completely disappointed. Almost every classic machine I wanted to play and introduce my wife to was down or did not work properly. Several machines just took the money and that was the end of it. We ended up having to play the new sterns just to get rid of the quarters.

    I know it’s a charity and the guy’s done well, but that doesn’t mean the place is beyond criticism. I’ve fixed a lot of machines, and when I was there, I thought, ‘give me a 40 hour week and I could have 90% of the broken machines running like tops.’ To me, they are not getting experienced techs volunteering. I witnessed a volunteer work on a machine and cringed. Tphof just needs to pay ONE lead tech and the problem will be fixed. The lead tech can train volunteers to perform preventative maintenance on the machines and services boards, flippers and other mechs. I’ve worked with volunteers in the past, and you just can’t get consistent performance out of a rotating inexperienced group. They would make MORE by having machines in good order, which means more donations.

    I fear that tphf scares people away from pinball because broken machines just cause frustration. No one wants to just throw money away, and newbs don’t know that the game sucks because it’s broken.

    I’ll give it another shot, but it was really bad when we went, far worse than I could have imagined. Can we set up a tech fund? I’ll donate to both.

    #166 1 year ago

    I would like to open a new arcade in disneycity walk. Plop that thing right smack dab in front of millions. All it takes is money and the desire.

    I often wondered why no one has done this already in OC California. It must be the money.

    Everyone does these things differently.

    I wish we had a hall of fame near me. It could be done.

    #167 1 year ago
    Quoted from Azmodeus:

    I would like to open a new arcade... All it takes is money and the desire ...

    ... to lose it.

    another blast from the southern california past.
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    #168 1 year ago
    Quoted from greenhornet:

    ... to lose it.
    another blast from the southern california past.
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    I spent many happy hours in that place. And Captain Video's down Westwood Blvd on Pico. I shed a tear when it finally closed, IIRC in the 90s.

    As to opening an arcade in an area like that anymore, the rent would crush you. I used to rent a space right around the corner from Westworld. The rents would make your eyes water.

    #169 1 year ago

    As TA of PHoF has said for decades now... 'own the building'. They didn't for the first 3-4 years at 3300 and it screwed things up, 1/2 of the coin box went to a douche bag owner. Rent and you will go under, you are working for someone else. TA has done it right, and others have modeled their success story (some very late in their charity careers), and others have simply not listened and failed and vanished (Silverman comes to mind). Do as TA has done, and you will have success. Don't do it, and you likely will fail. To criticize the guy for all that he has done, been through, and taught those that would listen is silly stupid and ignorant. Yet, no surprise, pinball is full of fucking ignoramuses.

    #170 1 year ago
    Quoted from Brijam:

    I spent many happy hours in that place. And Captain Video's down Westwood Blvd on Pico. I shed a tear when it finally closed, IIRC in the 90s.
    As to opening an arcade in an area like that anymore, the rent would crush you. I used to rent a space right around the corner from Westworld. The rents would make your eyes water.

    We need someone with a windfall.

    #171 1 year ago
    Quoted from Azmodeus:

    I would like to open a new arcade in disneycity walk. Plop that thing right smack dab in front of millions. All it takes is money and the desire.
    I often wondered why no one has done this already in OC California. It must be the money.
    Everyone does these things differently.
    I wish we had a hall of fame near me. It could be done.

    Disney will want to own it and Disney used to be good with pinball and then later they just let there games get beat down.

    #172 1 year ago
    Quoted from Joe_Blasi:

    Disney will want to own it and Disney used to be good with pinball and then later they just let there games get beat down.

    I remember they had a really cool arcade at one time. Wasn't it located outside the park at one of the hotels? I think?

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    #173 1 year ago
    Quoted from SuperDaveOsbourn:

    To criticize the guy for all that he has done, been through, and taught those that would listen is silly stupid and ignorant. Yet, no surprise, pinball is full of fucking ignoramuses.

    I totally get that Tim is going to do what Tim is going to do and the money he has donated over the last number of years is incredible! Thank you Tim! I only wish he could make the new place something that deserves to be called a Pinball Hall of Fame. I've been to both of his last locations and while I enjoyed the time there, I agree with so many others who have mentioned the condition of the games. And now he's building a new location that will house half again as many games? Makes me wonder how that many more games will be kept up.

    I've been to the current location and my first impression....it was a dump. Sorry, just being honest.

    Please, Tim, please, doing something with the new place that makes me walk in a say, "holy shit! This is my kind of place!" Even if all the games don't work correctly, make the place look nice!

    #174 1 year ago
    Quoted from Dan63:

    I remember they had a really cool arcade at one time. Wasn't it located outside the park at one of the hotels? I think?

    Yes it was at the contemporary resort. (The big Aframe looking building that the monorail goes through. That arcade was massive!! And it was cool as hell!!

    #175 1 year ago
    Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

    Please, Tim, please, doing something with the new place that makes me walk in a say, "holy shit! This is my kind of place!" Even if all the games don't work correctly, make the place look nice!

    Duly Noted....

    -1
    #176 1 year ago

    I have two machines in my collection that I have not been able to find a fix for. If you have time and want to connect via phone/Skype and help me figure out how to get them working again, I will purchase one of the $500 memberships. Send me a pm if this is something you are interested in!

    #177 1 year ago
    Quoted from fxdwg:

    Yes it was at the contemporary resort. (The big Aframe looking building that the monorail goes through. That arcade was massive!! And it was cool as hell!!

    I remember playing the deluxe Space Invaders. On the old game there was a glitch and you could slide underneath the green guys when they were right on top of you and come back and blast them away. On the newer game no dice. When you shot them they divided in two. I think I remember thast because that was the first place I played the newer version of Space Invaders. It was a cool place to hang out as a young teenager.

    #178 1 year ago
    Quoted from Dan63:

    I remember they had a really cool arcade at one time. Wasn't it located outside the park at one of the hotels? I think?

    No it was called Starcade and it was in Disneyland next to Space Mountain. It kicked ass.

    #179 1 year ago

    This. And sell beer.

    #180 1 year ago
    Quoted from Brijam:

    No it was called Starcade and it was in Disneyland next to Space Mountain. It kicked ass.

    There was also a smaller arcade at one of the hotels that sat out on the water. I thought it had the Atari name to it or maybe it was set up by Atari

    #181 1 year ago

    Don't forget the brief although fun run of Flynn's Arcade in California Adventure.

    #182 1 year ago
    Quoted from Dan63:

    I remember they had a really cool arcade at one time. Wasn't it located outside the park at one of the hotels? I think?

    I used to like to go to the underground arcade at thedisneyland hotel. I think it is a wine bar now.

    That was the arcade I remember.

    But our best arcade in the immediate area I remember was Golfland Stanton. Way better than anything Disney had to offer.

    That is a condo building now, that Golfland.

    -6
    #183 1 year ago

    I'm not a fan of Pinball and Beer,sorry! To me,standing around with a beer in hand,half drunk,beer belly hanging outta that stained shirt,talking garbage,is not my idea of fun!Beer is a kinda Golden liquid that finds itself spilling on everything and vying for space between the arms and cigarettes of idiots that seem endless!!

    #184 1 year ago
    Quoted from hawkmoon:

    I'm not a fan of Pinball and Beer,sorry! To me,standing around with a beer in hand,half drunk,beer belly hanging outta that stained shirt,talking garbage,is not my idea of fun!Beer is a kinda Golden liquid that finds itself spilling on everything and vying for space between the arms and cigarettes of idiots that seem endless!!

    uh...... , I think I resemble that remark(less the cigarettes and spilling!)

    #185 1 year ago
    Quoted from hawkmoon:

    Beer is a kinda Golden liquid that finds itself spilling on everything and vying for space between the arms and cigarettes of idiots that seem endless!!

    Is that Shakespeare? Sounds like Shakespeare.

    #186 1 year ago
    Quoted from Brijam:

    No it was called Starcade and it was in Disneyland next to Space Mountain. It kicked ass.

    There was also an arcade outside of Disney as well.

    #187 1 year ago
    Quoted from Azmodeus:

    I used to like to go to the underground arcade at thedisneyland hotel. I think it is a wine bar now.
    That was the arcade I remember.
    But our best arcade in the immediate area I remember was Golfland Stanton. Way better than anything Disney had to offer.
    That is a condo building now, that Golfland.

    What about Camelot mini golf? Off the 91 As I remember they had a lot of machines

    #188 1 year ago

    How about getting back to money for Tim & PHOF? If you want to talk about other arcades and Disney why not just start a post about those instead of a half of a page here?

    Tim - If you happen to read this post how about an update with any new news?

    #189 1 year ago
    Quoted from too-many-pins:

    How about getting back to money for Tim & PHOF? If you want to talk about other arcades and Disney why not just start a post about those instead of a half of a page here?
    Tim - If you happen to read this post how about an update with any new news?

    Gee wizzz I'm sorry I didn't mean to get your panties in a twist.

    -1
    #190 1 year ago
    Quoted from Dan63:

    Gee wizzz I'm sorry I didn't mean to get your panties in a twist. I'll try real hard next time to stay on the topic at hand and not offend you. I must have ADD or something? Have a nice day

    #191 1 year ago
    Quoted from Dan63:

    Gee wizzz I'm sorry I didn't mean to get your panties in a twist.

    One thing I have yet to be able to figure out about Pinside is why a few people need to take almost every topic off subject at some point. I know I post too often on some topics - I know not everyone will agree with me or anyone else for that matter. But how does a post trying to raise funds for one of the best pinball places in the world end up talking about a place that "once was" on the other side of the country?

    Tim can use some help and I think it is important for all of us to do what we can to help him. I agree machines at PHOF are not always in the best of shape but I seriously doubt anyone else in the hobby has done as much for charity as Tim has. I am one of the guys hoping he spends some of the "profits" on a full time tech (or two) but I also realize Tim has the right to run his business as he sees best.

    Anyway back to the "regular program" have fun kids!

    #192 1 year ago
    Quoted from too-many-pins:

    One thing I have yet to be able to figure out about Pinside is why a few people need to take almost every topic off subject at some point.

    It's funny that your post criticizing off-topic posts is itself off-topic

    I guess because we're just human. Also, posting even off-topic does kind of help because at least it keeps things bumped.

    On topic, I'm giving Tim money and I've told my non-Pinside friends who are also giving him money.

    #193 1 year ago

    Quoted from too-many-pins:

    Anyway back to the "regular program" have fun kids!

    #194 1 year ago
    Quoted from Brijam:

    It's funny that your post criticizing off-topic posts is itself off-topic
    I guess because we're just human. Also, posting even off-topic does kind of help because at least it keeps things bumped.
    On topic, I'm giving Tim money and I've told my non-Pinside friends who are also giving him money.

    I do agree with everything you said just like the "price police" bashing someones asking price on a machine. Bumping most post is good regardless how they are bumped but getting way too far off topic can sometimes totally derail the original message.

    None of us are "perfect" no forum is perfect. But with certain topics I feel it is important not to forget why the topic exist in the first place and that is my concern here. I know there is kind of a love / hate when it comes to people like Tim (PHOF), Clay (VFW), or Steve Young (Pinball Resource) but without some of these guys the hobby wouldn't be anywhere near what it is today. And as much as this is also very off topic I think we all should be very thankful for what guys like these three have done for this hobby.

    Keep bumping this topic anyway necessary! Lets all try to help Tim with his move anyway possible. Now back to work for me!

    -3
    #195 1 year ago

    Thread should be closed, it was an announcement, that now has turned into something much much different and wrong.

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    #196 1 year ago
    Quoted from too-many-pins:

    I seriously doubt anyone else in the hobby has done as much for charity as Tim has.

    Didn’t most of the money go to the Salvation Army? That’s not a charity it’s a cult. I knew a girl who escaped it and she had some stories. Kinda like Scientology. And the top generals (yes it’s run like an army) lived high on the hog.

    #197 1 year ago

    Whatever happened to that guy who ran a Vegas arcade and said he could do better than Tim?

    Didn’t he close his location?

    #198 1 year ago
    Quoted from jwilson:

    Whatever happened to that guy who ran a Vegas arcade and said he could do better than Tim?
    Didn’t he close his location?

    yes, it was near freemont st. nothing seems to stay open over there. i think he still operates the pins in NY, NY

    #199 1 year ago
    Quoted from toyotaboy:

    nothing seems to stay open over there.

    There is a strip club open on Freemont St that Bugsy Siegel probably opened... ( - :

    #200 1 year ago
    Quoted from too-many-pins:

    I do agree with everything you said just like the "price police" bashing someones asking price on a machine. Bumping most post is good regardless how they are bumped but getting way too far off topic can sometimes totally derail the original message.
    None of us are "perfect" no forum is perfect. But with certain topics I feel it is important not to forget why the topic exist in the first place and that is my concern here. I know there is kind of a love / hate when it comes to people like Tim (PHOF), Clay (VFW), or Steve Young (Pinball Resource) but without some of these guys the hobby wouldn't be anywhere near what it is today. And as much as this is also very off topic I think we all should be very thankful for what guys like these three have done for this hobby.
    Keep bumping this topic anyway necessary! Lets all try to help Tim with his move anyway possible. Now back to work for me!

    So why do people have a Love / Hate relationship with TA? Is that Off Topic? You brought it??

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