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Pinball Hall of Fame-There goes the neighborhood!

By timarnold

1 year ago


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    #1 1 year ago

    https://www.casino.org/vitalvegas/dream-hotel-groundbreaking-set-plus-floor-plans-and-construction-update/

    Hyatt Hotels just announced that they are buying all present dream hotels for 125 million Dollars, with aditional money in the future as more new ones come on line, including the now under construction one located next to PHOF.

    I have been told by everyone involved that the 545,000,000 needed to finish the project is IN THE BANK, and nothing is going to stop no matter what.

    So what does the buyout mean? Not a lot, me thinks. What Hyatt is buying included NO LAND, BUILDINGS or OPERATING RIGHTS. It is just the income stream paid by indipendant owners of the actual Hotels, who put up all the money and do the day to day running of things. What Shopoff, the owner of the place next door,will be getting is access to Hyatts reservation system and loyality programs, something very important these days. High end travelers and corporate accounts will only book hotel stays at places that have loyality programs. What Hyatt is getting is a stady flow of money from franchise fees for not a huge outlay of capital.

    I don't think a LOT of people will stay next door and come over to PHOF. The really BIG source of campers for us has always been the FAMOUS WELCOME TO LAS VEGAS SIGN. Free admission-free parking low rent tourists pay our bills.

    But alll of this means NOTHING. We have no say in anything our neighbors do. It was explained at the begining of this project to expect the empty lots surrounding us to fill up with all sorts of stuff, and that we would have NO control over what another does with property he legally owns.

    #2 1 year ago

    Welp... that's better than a Waste Treatment Plant nextdoor.
    Or a Hog Farm.

    #3 1 year ago

    I figured this new location gave you guys about 20 years before that area "went south" and you'd have to move to yet another new location. This kinda falls in line with that prediction, I think. But, I do think that you'll get a lot of walk-ins from the new Hyatt. There are a lot of executives, businessmen, and tradesmen who take their families to Vegas during the summertime as their kids are out of school and want to go on trips with mom and dad. While mom or dad are at the convention or meetings or whatever, the remaining parent and kids will absolutely walk over and play some pinball before figuring out what else they can actually do in a town that has grown less kid-friendly over the last decade.

    #4 1 year ago
    Quoted from Miguel351:

    While mom or dad are at the convention or meetings or whatever, the remaining parent and kids will absolutely walk over and play some pinball before figuring out what else they can actually do in a town that has grown less kid-friendly over the last decade.

    Last time i checked phof is/was not a kid friendly place.

    #5 1 year ago

    It's pinball. What's not kid friendly about it?

    I haven't been to the new place yet, but the old place sure felt like a regular arcade, just with tons of pins compared to vids. Do they have strippers there now or something? Do they serve alcohol there? What's not kid friendly about it? As long as they're accompanied by adults who properly watch their kids, I don't see the issue here.

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    #6 1 year ago

    We are very kid friendly.....IF YOUR KIDS ARE CALM AND QUIET. We do not tollerate blood curlding screams, running or children hanging on the gun games. MANY parents take offense to our rules, but we are not going to allow our attraction to go the way of movie theaters, where children run in the auditorium, talk during the movie and throw food. We escort out whole families on a daily basis because they have NO control over their kids.

    BEHAVE OR BE GONE!

    #7 1 year ago
    Quoted from timarnold:

    We are very kid friendly.....IF YOUR KIDS ARE CALM AND QUIET.

    Wow. Guess I missed that sign on my childhood arcade back in the day.

    #8 1 year ago
    Quoted from timarnold:

    We are very kid friendly.....IF YOUR KIDS ARE CALM AND QUIET. We do not tollerate blood curlding screams, running or children hanging on the gun games. MANY parents take offense to our rules, but we are not going to allow our attraction to go the way of movie theaters, where children run in the auditorium, talk during the movie and throw food. We escort out whole families on a daily basis because they have NO control over their kids.
    BEHAVE OR BE GONE!

    I don't blame you Sir. We are going to host an open house in our gameroom later in the month and I basically have to write a full paragraph of "rules" specifically related to the smaller kids. We have learned the hard way that families will have no problem with their kids running wild in your place, walking on the bowler and Skeeball lanes, etc if you don't lay out rules and expectations. With the #1 being you will always be with your kids while they are in our gameroom, it's not ours (or other adult guest's) responsibility to supervise them while you escape upstairs.

    #9 1 year ago
    Quoted from Methos:

    Wow. Guess I missed that sign on my childhood arcade back in the day.

    My brother owns a small business that caters to families today, and it includes an arcade gameroom. I can tell you how you behaved as a child is not related to how people let their kids behave today. Talk to anyone you know that works in an elementary school and you will be shocked at what goes on now.

    #10 1 year ago
    Quoted from timarnold:

    We are very kid friendly.....IF YOUR KIDS ARE CALM AND QUIET. We do not tollerate blood curlding screams, running or children hanging on the gun games. MANY parents take offense to our rules, but we are not going to allow our attraction to go the way of movie theaters, where children run in the auditorium, talk during the movie and throw food. We escort out whole families on a daily basis because they have NO control over their kids.
    BEHAVE OR BE GONE!

    Always appreciated Tim's attitude on this. So many parents let their kids run buck wild these days, like they've just given up.

    #11 1 year ago
    Quoted from m00nmuppet:

    So many parents let their kids run buck wild these days, like they've just given up.

    It comes from a few frames of mind, sadly none of them good. They either truly don't care about their kids, they actually have given up at parenting, they themselves had parents who didn't care so they see nothing wrong with it, or they're the kind of person that at one point said to themselves, "When I have kids, I'm going to let them do whatever they want" in reaction to their own parents being "too strict" and they're making good on that promise. The one that scares me the most is the parents who believe that their kids are perfect little angels and do no wrong ever, and if you say something to them about their kid raising hell somewhere(like throwing food or jumping on something that's not supposed to be climbed on), they get up in YOUR face about it and defend their kid's actions by saying that you're the one with the problem and that you should mind your own business. We live in very sad times.

    #12 1 year ago
    Quoted from Miguel351:

    The one that scares me the most is the parents who believe that their kids are perfect little angels and do no wrong ever, and if you say something to them about their kid raising hell somewhere(like throwing food or jumping on something that's not supposed to be climbed on), they get up in YOUR face about it and defend their kid's actions by saying that you're the one with the problem and that you should mind your own business. We live in very sad times.

    Don't blame that on _now_ - you've perfectly described our neighborhood bully (and his mother) from when I was in third grade, back in another millennium.

    Tim's rule was the rule in every arcade I ever worked at - behave or be elsewhere.

    #13 1 year ago
    Quoted from Miguel351:

    It's pinball. What's not kid friendly about it?

    Quoted from timarnold:

    We escort out whole families on a daily basis

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