You will be assimiliated.

Pray they pass on you too.

I thought of box running around. Fun security robots.

My idiotic WalMart neighborhood market had a moronic floor cleaning robot. I messed with it for awhile until it gave up and couldn't figure out out to go around. Of course since Calif most of the merch is locked up I had to beg for help, cuz shaving cream.

What movie is that from? I've seen it, just can't remember. 70s Sci fi movies are fun.

If it was 80s security robot...

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Was from Logan's Run, although Chopping Mall is an absolute classic

This movie is incredible.

the movie poster sold me on it, I gotta check it out on next great-bad movie night

If you need more:

Thankskilling
Poltrygiest
Ghoulies 3: ghoulies go to college
Silent night, deadly night
Ginger dead man
Microwave massacre
Yummy

Barbera crampton! She is is a favorite of mine.

Spoilers…

He even finds her distracting…

I don’t understand. Several here wrote that the owner is wealthy, a millionaire?

I think it’s weird asking the community for money if one is rich. After reading the headline I was under the impression that the owner is broke.

Many people with money are risk averse when using their own money. Better to take risks with someone else’s.

I find it more weird people think individuals don’t separate their own assets from a business’s

Ghoulish go to college is a modern American masterpiece of cinema.

Reminds me of an old saying.
Rich people spend like they’re poor, that’s how they stay rich.
Poor people spend like they’re rich, that’s why they stay poor.

I know plenty of entrepreneurs that put their life savings into their business, and are successful because of their risk and hard work.

It’s also way easier to give to charity when none of it is you’re money and you have enough money to live comfortably without it. It makes me think about the large retailers that ask you to donate a buck at the till for a good cause. Then they collect all those donations (none of it their money) together and have a huge tax deduction for donating to charity; while making record profits.

Makes me wonder if Tim draws a salary, or if he donates his time? I don’t think you can write off your time as a donation, but his car and the gas he uses to get there would be possible. Depending on your jurisdiction

That's not how it works. If they were claiming the donation as a deduction, they would have first had to claim the donations as income. It would only save them the taxes on that amount of income (call it 30%), not the entire amount, so in that case they would actually lose money for no good reason.

They collect that money and bundle it for the charity, it is not considered income, or used as a deduction - unless there is a matching portion they can deduct.

But your point is valid. They get plenty of goodwill by delivering a big check of other people's money.

They are a non profit. Doesn’t matter how much net increase in net assets they report (net income for for profit companies). They pay no tax.

If u look at his website (and its terrible) he actually shows images of checks where he donated to charities http://pinballmuseum.org/donate.php ...

I was commenting on lucky's post about collecting donations at a retailer, not on Tim's charity model. - so I clarified my original post.

LOL, yeah, but it’s bizarre to go on a money beg if you are a millionaire.

I understand separating personal assets from the business but I personally think it’s questionable ethics asking other people to chip in to your own business without any return, if you yourself are loaded.

I mean, I don’t know that Tim guy’s finances but reading the OP, I thought, wow, struggling pinball business, kinda museum-ish, maybe worth donating to and it turns out the owner is apparently rich huh? How weird. Had I donated to a millionaire’s business, I’d feel like a total fool.

I would never even think about begging if I was in that situation. Apparently people like you think this is cool?!?

Every non profit on earth is funded by donations.

How about Newman's Own?

Funded 100% from the donated sales of newmans own products.

The foundation is a separate entity from the dressing company.

I agree...the title speaks for itself....its a clear money grab, but flynnibus thinks its not, which is fine...he can donate away

What about all the non profit hospitals that operate all over the country

What about them? They get donations just like all other non profits.

Does the staff (Medical, professional and general labor) get paid? Or, are they all volunteers?

They get paid. It’s rare what Tim is doing with paying nothing to staff or himself and donating most profits to charity.

Because you don’t read but are happy to judge anyways.

He personally loaned 400k to the org as part of the recent build. He’s also given decades of his life…

You want him to do everything solo because he has assets himself?

Maybe you don’t understand what a non profit is… but the business isn’t ‘his’ nor his piggy bank. He’s done the extreme to not take any of the money for years of his life. Do you not consider that ‘chipping in’? Or the years of fundraising he and clay did to bootstrap it to start with?

There sure is a lot of people happy to judge without bothering to get informed first

Hard to say what being informed is. I've followed along with this thread and others... But so much of everything is just personal anecdotes, hearsay and ancient history.

Things don't really add up, as this one person seems to take all the blame and credit at the same time. Really, if this is a true non profit, there should be a board of directors. There should be committees to address these issues with the community.

From this thread, the plan is that at some point the whole project just gets folded and donated out. Who would want to contribute for that? This is a wonderful project and initiative. There really should be a proper hand over to keep this going indefinitely. If this is really about the good and legacy of this hobby.

Maybe all of these things are in place. I don't claim to be informed.. It's just difficult when all of the information just comes from word of mouth.

There are seminars and talks given where these things have been covered - linked in this thread too. The actual filed tax forms were linked… they can also be found online as well as looking up charities on places like guidestar. There is no voodoo here, just an actual interest in knowing verse reacting to things in isolation.

Again this is covered in publicly available documentation.

Because people are taking comments too literally. I already elaborated the full context earlier. It’s a response to criticism of spending verse giving and an old man pushing back against personal criticism. If you spend any actual time observing Tim over the years you will get the color of his comments.

So much of this thread reads like a bunch of Karens challenging the manager because of what they think they know.

It’s not hard to just read tim’s posts here on pinside… he’s pretty much always on this topic and nothing else. Then watch his talks (youtube) and look at ghe guidestar and nv lookups. Tim shares far far far more than most operations in our hobby. You just have to be willing to take the info in.

Now he is not flawless at all.. many would even call him vindictive… but it’s not hard to see where he’s telling a single side (vs other topics).

This is covered in the form posted that revived this thread… and covered by tim countless times.

Tldr - no
What he declares on his personal taxes for that time and effort given to the org is s different matter. The guy lives off his prior earnings and investments.

I visited the PHOF on Thursday and had a great time. Many of the games were turned off but many more were available for play. I played both old & new pins and arcade games. Pictures of a few of the games I played are attached.

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I had Lawman as a 2nd grader in 1980.
Dad paid around $150...sold for about the same 2 years later when Seawitch came into the picture.
Seeing that pic makes me miss it.

If PHOF would fix their games (hire real techs) and stop making pinball look bad on the world stage, I would gladly donate again.
Sadly, that's not going to happen.

Are the PHOF EM games really converted to LED lighting, or is it just the photos?

Ok, the old farts will understand... here is Tim in a nutshell.

At pin Expo in Chicago back in the 90's, Tim did something that would piss everyone off almost every year. But it was not because of any malice or ill will. Because he had money, he used it and donated every year by buying half the charity raffle tickets for the donated older used pinball machine they raffled off. To Tim it was win-win. He got a used pinball machine for his collection, and the charity got his money. He nearly always won, and it almost made some guys not want to buy a raffle ticket, you were getting shitty odds of winning. Gentlemen
side bets were common on wether Tim would win again this year. You could tell immediately when you saw him after the drawing if he won or lost. Was he normal Tim at PHOF Tim, then you knew he had lost. If he was smiling, well it wasn't the smile so much as the pep in his Step, you knew he had won. Ok the smile has so seldom been seen that it has been theorized that Tim’s has gone extinct. It’s also the only indicator of any connection you might be making when talking to him. If you can make him laugh, he softens his edges considerably.

Now these were all old EM machines, but some in really nice shape. So if you are wondering where some of the PHOF museum pieces came from, this was one source.

I happened to be at the Expo Registration desk when Tim walked up after he finished giving his yearly seminar, and he was asking Robert, and I quote "So, have you drawn the raffle? Did I win like normal?" Rob said no, they were doing the drawing at the banquet. But then I blurt out "like normal? Why do you think you've won?" At which point Tim just held up a fistful of raffle tickets and said "Because I always buy half the tickets." and walked away.

Tim was a real early adopter of converting games to LEDs even before easily accessible pinball LEDs were a thing. With 300+ games in the building, he was a big advocate of the power and heat savings.

Unfortunately being that early adopter, he didn't have all the color temp options that we have now.

Oh, also going this weekend, staying at the Excalibur. Anyone want me to spin a slot for them? I’ll do a free $1 pull in honor of the first 50 pinsiders who PM me. I will PM you with the amount that was won and donated to the “Send Bublehead to PHOF to Donate” Campaign. I’ll take $1 to pay for the pull from the winnings and donate the remainder to the PHOF. I will PP (F&F) a generous gift from me to you to show my relative gratitude in relation to the amount that was donated to PHOF in your name or donate all gifts and winnings to PHOF if you so indicate in PM. Let’s have some fun AND donate to PHOF.

I remember reading that he had switched to Titan (?) rubbers for his games because it dramatically reduced the maintenance requirement of replacing broken rubbers. It's a lot easier to maintain a handful of games than hundreds!

Yes his games EM games have LEDs. The power save from LEDs really adds up over a large collection. Ditching the linear v-regs in the old games would probably help on the Vegas AC bill too.

If all the tickets to a raffle sell, and you bought all the tickets you intended to buy for the raffle, the amount of tickets someone else bought has no impact on your chance of winning.

Well, this "interviewer" made him soften his edges considerably...of course, I think she also had a bit of a climax, too, so that helped. But man, I've NEVER seen a more restrained laugh/chortle in my life! Skip to 26:36 for her 'Big O". Oh, and I think Tim may have experienced a little pleasure, too.

That a boy Tim give it to her good!

.....that squealing was epic!!! (I'm talking about her, not Tim)

Now I get why I saw piles of lights in buckets on the pinballs that had their playfields up. Guess he keeps the original lights there.

Well, nobody PMed me, so I took the $50 and bought a souvenir at at PHOF....

Ok, the volunteer behind the counter gave me the sign for free after I asked. She said it's the strangest ask she has had , said most just steal them off the machines. She asked only that I think about donating a few dollars in the bucket up front for the SA.

So I donated.

I think the sign fits the wearer....

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