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Pinball Expo 2018 Reboot (Wheeling, IL)

By RobCraig

1 year ago

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    “For those that have attended the Expo Banquet before, what would you change?”

    • Nothing 15 votes
    • Skip the fancy food, make it Burgers and Fries at a cheaper cost. 46 votes
    • Shorten the event, make it super cheap or free, and have no meal at all. 19 votes
    • I don't care about the banquet. 176 votes

    (256 votes)

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    #62 1 year ago

    Fascinating news, first I'd heard of it.

    Bottom line, I realize that it is "139" days away but we who bring games for free play need details SOON as to what to expect. More so for me since I now live 1000 miles away.... but I'm sure everyone will need the details ASAP so we/they can make plans.

    My only other comment is that I agree with one of the posters above who talked about family pricing. I have adult children who like to come by the Expo for a couple of hours at most on Friday night after we take them out to dinner, and that has been breaking the bank so something is wrong with that calculus. I'm open to suggestions.

    3 months later
    #292 9 months ago

    Got this email yesterday... Despite what Rob Berk posted earlier on in this thread it sounds like the rules may have changed for folks that bring their pins from home for use in the free play area. Am I mistaken? In short, per the bit in pink in the picture I've attached (which is also bolded out in the text below,) it seems like we who voluntarily bring pins for free play are going to get docked $$$ if we take off prior to 8PM on Saturday.


    I'm Rob Craig. Some of you know me from our old Southern Illinois Pinball & Arcade Supershow in Herrin, IL which had its last stand in 2009. Some recall my involvement with GameRoom Magazine, or perhaps the Silverball Podcast. I've decided to jump out of the pinball shadow to help Rob Berk and David Fix with this 34th Pinball Expo event. My role is to recruit people to bring games to the show and manage logistics of moving games into the Expo hall, to make sure everyone that brings a game (or 12) receives compensation accordingly (armbands, VIP Event, raffle entries, even cash in some cases). For this, I have a "Compensation Matrix" that will help you identify how you get perks for bringing games. Most of you are receiving this e-mail because you were listed as someone who selflessly brought a game to the show in 2016. Thank you for doing that and making the 2016 show great. Others have been added to this e-mail because they are pinball friends and I know their passion for pinball and the Pinball Expo Show.

    Game Compensation Matrix

    [Please see the attached picture for the Game Compensation Matrix]

    Games must be in 100% working order in order to qualify as a "Game Brought". Trophies will be awarded for Best EM game, Best Solid State Game, and Best DMD or Modern Era Game. You may (and are encouraged) to sell your game at Expo, but the game must remain at the show until Saturday Night 8PM at which time games can be removed without penalty. Early removals must be arranged by Rob Craig and his staff. You will be charged $30 per day for early removal (i.e. removal on Saturday before 8pm is $30 fee per machine, removal Friday before 8PM is $60 fee per machine) and forfeit your raffle ticket(s). Expo cash is real cash. Vouchers are provided when all games have been registered at the Games Table and cashed at the Registration Table.

    To me, there are several benefits in bringing games to a pinball show and I'm sure you already can think of the same ones I have. Free entry to most parts of a show, ability to sell or trade games you brought, early access in setting up your game and seeing what else is in the hall. This year, I'm asking you to consider helping me PACK THE PLACE with nice working games. I've worked with Rob Berk to add more perks for those that bring a game.

    Notice that the more you bring, the more perks you get. If you are interested in selling several titles in your collection - this might really work out for you. If you are looking to bring games and get enough bonus cash to pay for a Stern Tour or Seminars, that can certainly happen too. From what I've learned, compensation in the past has been a little inconsistent. This year, my goal is to make it clear up front and keep accurate records so everyone is handled the same way based upon the number of good games they bring. It won't be easy as the chaos of move-in can be a bit overwhelming. With this in mind, I'm also inviting you or other pinball people you know to join me in managing the freeplay move-in. There will be a table that needs attended throughout the show, many people on Wednesday afternoon through Thursday evening to assist with moving games into the hotel, and several to assist people in moving out. Even if bringing a game isn't something you can do, maybe helping me out is. I can offer a staff T-Shirt and free access to everything (except Stern Tour) for volunteers that put in 8 hours or more along with the VIP event. I'm looking to partner with someone that can work 20 or more hours during the event. If that is you, please contact me at popbumper@gmail.com.

    I ask that you forward this e-mail to anyone that might have an interest in bringing a game or volunteering for the show. Simply reply to this e-mail if you intend on bringing games to the show AND/OR you are interested in volunteering. You could alternatively fill out the forms on the website but I believe an e-mail to me might be faster. Make sure to let me know Game Name, Year, Your Phone Number and if it is for sale or not. I realize game titles change even on the day before you come. You are not held to what you say you are bringing, but it does give me an idea on how much room we will need to gives people coming to the show an idea of what they can expect to see there this year.

    Finally - if you have a pinball dolly that you can bring to the show and offer it up to the staff (once you are done with it) early in the week (Wednesday afternoon - Thursday Morning) please let me know that too. We'll need as many as we can get for the first 2 days of the show.

    Sincere thanks to all. See you in October!

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    #300 9 months ago
    Quoted from lpeters82:

    I think that sounds fair. I've had to leave early in the past and would be understanding that if I pull my machine early, I shouldn't expect the same compensation as those that stay setup for the entire show. Not sure I'm going or bringing a machine, but if I do I'd likely be discussing the option to leave earlier on Saturday. I'd prefer the show to be more of a Friday, Saturday, Sunday show; but it currently feels like a bit of a waste to spend the extra night on Saturday.

    I'm not 100% sure I'm reading the new policy right, but the fact is that the more structure you try to impose, the more logistics can/will complicate things.

    It's difficult to determine from the context of what is written whether it is meant to apply to the case where you sell a game, or to everyone who brings a game.

    If it applies to games that aren't for sale then logistics are gonna make things more difficult than they were in the past. For both the show staff and those who donate games.

    The way it has always worked is that, if I donate a machine to the free play room for three days, while I am there at Expo, I'd have free admission for those three days.

    if the new policy applies to all games in the free play area then if I'm there for Thursday night through Sat night, this is fine. However if, for example, the three days/nights are Wed-Fri and we check out of the hotel on Saturday, then (depending on how you read it) it'll likely cost $30 to pull a game at 9AM Sat AM. If that's correct then this new policy will cause a hardship.

    #317 9 months ago
    Quoted from vidgameseller:

    It technically is not a penalty, If you bring a game, for the duration of the show, you get specific compensation for it, which includes at the least, a days admission for each day that you have the machine on the floor. You are getting that admission paid in advance, as you will be able to walk around and enjoy the show all day as long as your game is in their. If you "CHOOSE" to remove the game early, its not like you can give back the day of walking around and seeing seminars, vendor hall, and freeplay hall. So at that time, you need to pay the show the cost of a day admission, something that you already used. Why people are complaining is beyond me, except for this current world that we live in that everyone believes they are owed and entitled something

    Your reasoning is broken. Nobody is asking for admission for any day that their game isn't out on the floor and operational.

    Consider this: you set up a pin on Thursday morning, and get a wristband. You attend the show Thursday and the pin you donated covered that cost. Likewise for Friday, all day and night. So far, both the expo and the attendee are equally compensated.

    The only way I can try and make sense of what your post said would be in the case where someone sticks around and attends Expo for another day or two after they've packed up their pin. I agree that such behavior would be unethical and I agree that in such a case, the attendee should have to pay for their attendance.

    However, someone who pulls their game at e.g. 8AM on a Saturday and leaves the hotel (and Expo) is NOT receiving material gains such as you described them:

    Quoted from vidgameseller:

    So at that time, you need to pay the show the cost of a day admission, something that you already used.

    #343 9 months ago
    Quoted from mnpinball:

    Is there a Google group Doc sheet link for the for sale items for people like in past years ???

    I could swear somebody posted a link but this is all I got ATM


    #420 9 months ago

    In years past Expo would sort of fizzle out on Sat night because of the banquet. They'd close the vendor and free play halls so folks not attending the banquet had to find something else to do with their time. Many just left.

    For those of us that were local, sure we'd come back Sunday to pick up our machines. The vendors would be packing up at 8AM Sunday morning, pretty much everything was cleared out by noon. I used to wait till after the Bears game to go back and break down my machines and I can tell you that by 2pm it was a ghost town in the free play room. There was always this one guy with super long hair still plugging away at the remaining pins, but that was it.

    With the change in format and keeping it open till midnight Saturday, the afternoon and evening will be better but I still have to believe that some folks won't spend the night preferring to head home instead.

    #426 9 months ago
    Quoted from Jerol:

    Me too!
    Dragging the wife along too (she's a good sport). We booked a return flight to California for Sunday afternoon... Was that a mistake (as in is there no show on Sunday)?

    There's no show on Sunday but OMG, it's Chicago - so much to do and see, you could literally turn in your rental at 9am, take the El downtown (do shit) and still be able to catch your flight later that day.

    Have a great time!

    1 week later
    #552 9 months ago

    Boosting advertising efforts? Cool. Sure hope folks bring machines for the free play area to meet the increased attendance.

    2 weeks later
    #789 8 months ago
    Quoted from Yelobird:

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    Ha! Bring that to the show and you'd sell a metric shit tonne.

    1 week later
    #1040 8 months ago

    Did the drive from Denver to Des Moines in about 9.5 hours. The highlight was getting to listen to the Dodgers whip the Brewers butts.

    Can't wait to get there tomorrow after I drop by Pinball Life.


    #1229 8 months ago

    OK fellas I ain't exaggerating when I say that it smells like someone's damp, musty basement in the Free Play room tonight.

    Very odd because the air conditioning is able to keep up with the current load, it is warmer in the Vendor Hall.

    Just saying, it doesn't smell normal or good in the Free Play hall.

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