It always goes up faster than it goes down. It has gone down some, but it will probably take a few weeks for it to be fully seen.

The only thing better than a bubble burst thread would be a Toy Story bubble burst thread.

Is Toy Story to the pinball bubble burst like the Netscape of the .com bubble burst and the AIG of the housing crash?

If you are paying attention to the market, then it's clear things are cooling a bit. More games for sale, games sitting longer with fewer offers, and dealers able to hold some inventory. This was not the case 6 months ago.

The pinball market isn't going to crash per se, but the days of being able to buy a NIB Pro or Premium, play the crap out of it for 6 months, and sell it for a profit may be behind us. I would not be surprised if we are getting back to the old days of taking a 500 dollar hit on the resale of a used game that was purchased NIB. That used to be the standard before the last 2 years; we called it the New-In-Box tax.

not seeing my METLE going back to the NIB price of $7200 that I paid any time soon

Checking the pulse on TS4 LE sales might give some indication as the NIB prices are the highest we've seen for an LE. Are they selling?

Yeah, the super high end of the market--the rare and very limited games--is strong. But the mid and low end is where the market is cooling.

I went on a Trabant tour when I visited Germany on a work trip a few years ago. For those of you who don't know... this video explains it and it is AWESOME!

Also note that the car below was manufactured from 1957 until 1991... in that exact body style.

Why do some of you need to be such asshole gatekeepers on every single pricing thread? This is a discussion forum and these games are expensive and frankly it’s an interesting topic which is why it is brought up frequently. Half this website is grown men discussing what cake toppers to glue to their playfields. Stop acting like discussing pricing is such a waste of time. Drain the topic and move on. Oohhhh no… Levi will get triggered and copy and paste the same worthless sarcasm again. Oh darn. Who GAF.

Now let’s talk about how my wonka price compares to my corvette pricing.

this means it will for sure burst

I got screwed, bought mine NIB from one of those damn flippers for $8600!

How are those Halloween and Ultraman CE deposits treating you...

Also... I love pricing threads.

Market has cooled substantially in the last few months. It’s possible to locate desirable NIB Premiums now and pay MSRP or less if you know what you’re doing. I located my GZ Prem and had it in-hand in 3 days, paying less than MSRP.

The key is 1) cash in hand (literally, CASH); and 2) make is super-easy on the distributor. You pickup at their location with an envelope full of cash. Call around; many distributors have in-bound stock.

Not too long ago there was a thread started that dared suggest secondary market NIB pricing might be cooling and everyone STILL lost their shit. I guess secondary market prices have always been higher than MSRP for still in-production games and always will be. If you try to suggest otherwise the mob will rise and circlejerk the lamest personal crusade I've ever seen.

Pinside should ban all bubble burst threads during the months of May-Aug.

Prices go down in the summer EVERY.SINGLE.YEAR.

Maybe the CE flippers bubble has burst

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Ding ding!

At Pintastic I saw dozens of new pins for sale, first time I can recall such a sight. I swear there was 40 plus.

So... I'll throw out a controversial comment here. I really don't care if the bubble bursts. I am really happy with the collection I have now. I can always trade pins, and if I get stuck with what I have... O no... I'm stuck with all these pins I love! Worst case scenerio I switch over to doing trades or temp trades because I can't let a pin go at a loss for whatever reason. I'm kind of in that situation now. I overpaid for a (very nice) Nine Ball and can't psychologically bring myself to sell it at a loss, so I'm going on an 8 hour round trip tomorrow to trade for a Fathom. Big boy brain time right here.

I doubt Elwin games are going down anytime soon. If ya buy a turd like Ultraman, then yeah good luck with that.

Then only controversial part of your comments is where you trade your minty Nine Ball for a Fathom

Kidding of course, Fathom is a great game and you'll have a lot of fun with it. Nine Ball is just the all time GOAT in my eyes.

Not particularly new with Spooky's horror and obscure theme games, but I think making CEs unlimited (a mistake IMO) is partially to blame for the value dump on them, though shipping and tax is where most of the hit is being taken on Halloween.

Well... Rick and Morty was going for 13k a few months ago until people started playing this years spooky games. There are examples near me sitting at $10,000 unsold now.

Still high on that game for what was $7k-$7500msrp before other costs, but R&M is neither horror, nor obscure IMO.

Halloween and UM also make for 1750 of that layout, which is 3.5x ACNC.

Normally I'd expect the Spooky games to regain value (RZ/ACNC have crept back up from the lows), but hard for me to see that happening on HLWN/UM anytime soon, if ever.

Like the early value rise on AMH leaving lots of flippers dumping RZ, R&M seemed to have some effect on people jumping on HLWN/UM blindly.

This is the most correct thing I have heard all day. I sold a JP Premium 6 months ago for 12k with topper. That is crazy to pay for a premium, I paid 7k for it used about 8 months after it came out. Seems like the lower run LE, SLE or CE's are still holding up.

Higher than MSRP...you got screwed! I will take it for $8600 so you break even

It's not the discussion points, it's the fact people keep thinking they've come up with an amazing new idea.
Like, just post in one of the other threads.

I kept scrolling and scrolling......no Levi......I'm so bummed....

Who wants to post in a stale thread? Eeww

Well they aren't stale is the issue, there's a new one every week

But if you would like to discuss the real winner in all this, I will because I'm pumped.
Lower prices cool, check-cutters eating CE/LEs halarious... recruiting the ol team back together and price policing the fuck out of every thread like we used to is gonna be so great.

Only bought my first game in December 1982. For the most part prices have climbed with a few dips here and there. They might be cheaper next year, but in 5 or 10 they will go up. Not worried about it. Pinballs are priceless. As playing and collecting have brought me enormous joy.

IBTL (in before the Levi)

I think well head back to pre covid supply shortage type prices, but ones that are still inflated overall over the years.

Like people arent going to spend 12k on stern premiums thats can still be gotten nib if they just wait

I mean take a look at this ad. You'd have never seen a nice HUO modded Deadpool Premium for this price last year.

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/138331

Deadpool just had a massive run where many more units were influxed into the pinball economy. That’s why they’re trending lower.

Considering 18 months ago a NIB DP Premium was running $7800, the guy is still making a profit.

I think it’s safe to say a HUO Pro or Premium will resell for give-or-take -10% of the CURRENT NiB MSRP. If a Premium goes up to $9,999 next year then expect those secondhand prices to raise to about 9k or so (of course, it also depends on the machine)

Double post

They is no going down the only thing that will go down is the percentage of growth and that already has

Right. Stern is running titles and people can get their hands on them, at least for a little while. This is a change.

Yea, it's like the government calling a reduction in YOY budget growth a 'Budget Cut'.

Quite a few machines have been popping up on Kijiji Ontario and just sitting there. I’m sure the people (like me) that finally bought one for home are now selling for the long overdue vacations and debt reduction.

Buy the one on Kijiji. After exchange you will be right at that price point!

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I’ll be buying “A” list machines for pennies on the dollar!!!

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One of the poll choices is "Eh, pinball prices always increases" so......

Every time I see toadies calling for Crazy Levi I think of this! Lol

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These threads come up all the time.

IMO, pin prices follow housing market. Up and down.
But, if you borrowed a bunch of $$ to buy a basement full of pins you can’t afford. And you have been flipping these way too easy for profit, possibly this might change. That’s just stupidity that people pay more for used games than new games. This has been going on for 10 plus years now

If you are a real collector you love your collection and don’t look at it like a bank account, really don’t care if a title goes down 25 percent.

I have a bad feeling that soon people, including myself will be wishing you could eat that expensive pinball collection....I really hope not.

Are prices high? Hadn’t noticed, but of course, new pins are outrageously priced. It is the used ones that I tend to follow and specifically top 100 games. Give me a fairly, priced used pin and I will buy it. They still pop up and collectives may be the “only deals” left.