Wow - I've been to Ayce Gogi - doesn't surprise me at all...they had Rick and Morty way before most (Feb of 2020) - had a blast playing, eating and drinking there during a so cal visit...right before the shit hit the fan!

Hey all - I just talked with Melissa at CT regarding Alien LV - she indicated everyone that's paid the $1 waiting list, is allocated an LV from Cointaker. They are waiting (along with us) for the official drop from Pinball Brothers on additional details on the pin. (anytime now?)

Melissa said she'll be working this weekend to process invoices for all the $1 reserves they have and they should have invoices for actual deposit (assume $1,000) coming out Monday/early next week. Just wanted to share and hopefully alleviate any unnecessary worries etc. Exciting times...

cheers

Not sure - but if I recall, old price was never a thing for LV's from CT- as no price was confirmed for LV when making the reservation $1 fee. Per my recollection when I talked to Melissa in April she estimated LVs would be priced around $10k but didn't have actual price.

Anyone know when LV is expected to ship?

I talked to Melissa (again) just now, she said to not put the $1000 deposit down if you already paid the $1. She is coordinating wait list in order of the initial $1 deposits. Just fyi, as mentioned earlier, Melissa will be processing invoices this weekend for the $1 deposits and notifying folks beginning of next week for the $1000 deposit.

hope this helps a few

cheers

Same hahaha...send CT / Melissa an email referencing your original order under the $1 and to connect to your recent order. Its more paperwork for her, but they'll take care of.

It doesn't always work out, or necessitate the upgrade. Example - Ghostbusters Prem vs/ Pro...I have a Premium, which I love, but the Pro plays great and is said to have better 'flow'

Until you get to play both its hard to have an opinion...the layout of the LV is the same at the SE (unless I missed something)...so it's really - do you want the extras or are you fine with the basics? Agreed the SEs on the original price point got a great deal...For anyone who doesnt have an Aliens pin (Heighway or PB SE) and is now, as of today, ready commit to the purchase - the LV is a no brainer. Also remember, this is still boutique pinball...I can forgive PB lack of investing in additional marketing and release/video promotions like Stern. That's ok, I hate commercials and advertising in general. Just make the game great. The feedback from sources I trust on Aliens SE is great.

Anyone have any ETA communicated for Alien LV deliveries from Cointaker? I was provided a number in the 30's. Just trying to ball park it and don't want to bother Melissa and Cointaker unnecessarily. Thanks

Happy New year - Got my pay in full order on Aliens LV from CT. I'm #36 (I got pushed from 35 due to a count adjustment). Not a big deal I assume and I'm not crying about it.

Looks like Aliens will arrive before TBL, even though I paid TBL deposit about 5 months prior.

The home arcade is about to get a major upgrade. My Ghostbusters Prem is a great game but I'm quite tired of it. Not selling it tho, as I want to see what my perfect trio of film themed games will look like together. Can't fuggin' wait.

I played an original Heighway - and was blown away...couldn't pass up the chance once PB Bros started making them again.

I think Pinball Browser is for Stern systems only? (not really sure about that)...but I'd like to add Sigourney quotes "Did IQs drop while I was away?" ; "They can bill me!"

hahaha...oh man, that bump to 36 I got (after being previously told I was 35) is gonna suck...

Yeah for sure, I was told I'm in the initial shipment, setting sail EOM. Holy crap it's happening hahaha

These aren't the LVs right? (Those don't ship until EOM from what I understand) - anyone have a rough ETA for shipping time for those?

So last we heard, LVs should be on boat today - should one figure about 45 days out until we get them at home/on location?

Ok, so the SV folks are about 60 days out - but the units are state side no? That's at least coming close to delivery. I'm sure the wait will be worth it all. Hang in there.

I thought so too! Was it cited somewhere? Maybe wishful thinking? I may need to take mine to get coated somewhere local

If anyone gets the LV boat shipment tracker - please post it here.

Did anyone plan or are they even available, Cliffy's for Alien Pinball Brothers? I'm seeing a set for Heighway, but not for PB. Was curious if anyone took steps to install, and what that entailed. Never installed cliffy's myself - I have them on my Ghostbuster's premium but need to potentially replace or repair one.

Anyone have the New In Box dimensions? Wondering if I can bring the whole unit downstairs or if need to open before doing so.

Thanks

Thanks...man - - so close (78 cm). Gonna have to unbox first

didn't we have new ship dates through mid march and mid april going by air (possibly) instead of sea?

Ok talked to Cointaker - Initial batch of LVs are expected to ship 2/28 - earlier estimates are still intact - I'm number 36 so likely won't see until march / april. Most are going by sea, some may go by air

Fuggin' Glorious!

Hey folks - Does anyone have any info on an official Apron coming for the LV? did PB Bro's share any details on this?

Anyone have a lead on the tracking for the LVs USA bound? I'm in the mid 30s based on CT assignment...how soon do we really think these will show up?

Dumb question - where do you pull firmware updates from? Not seeing it on pinball brothers website under support...is there built in Wifi?

megaladon , can you show a picture? And kciaccio - where did you source your part from?

LV supposed to arrive tomorrow...I'd like to protect what I can - unfortunately there's no cliffy's available yet for the Pinball Brother's version (yet!).

Also I saw earlier in a thread (can't find it) something about cutting a black piece of plastic or rubber - does anyone have any day one recommendations list consolidated? Bought brand new ballz, so that's about all I can do right now. Setup and first game with any luck tomorrow.

Those sound good. Thanks - I wonder what the LV may already have installed (Playfield protector says Standard Edition, assume fine on LV)

Ok I have an LV (or will shortly) - where can I grab the 2.6 Firmware from? Not seeing it on their site. Thanks,

Sorry never mind, found it: https://pinballbrothers.freshdesk.com/support/home

**UPDATE*** Rookie move..found it on coin door..Thanks for the tip "Flipper Room"

Ok - LV getting setup - anyone know where the key for the top box/area is located? I'm not seeing it...just the standard quarter lock

Has anyone experienced this issue? Not sure how the second ball got in the shooting lane - I think it double filled by accident.

Also - I just noticed two of the eggs aren't registering hits from the ball..I couldn't locate the eggs in the test menu - but I did notice the eggs that don't react to balls, did react to the ball search.

Lastly - could anyone confirm the difficulty of the 'air lock'? It is always going 'SDTM' - it's a bit too much, hah

brado426 - thanks for tip - where can I confirm the playfield revision info? It's #28 and have a manufacture date of 1/22

Also - I just noticed two of the eggs aren't registering hits from the ball..I couldn't locate the eggs in the test menu - but I did notice the eggs that don't react to balls, did react to the ball search.

Lastly - could anyone confirm the difficulty of the 'air lock'? It is always going 'SDTM' - it's a bit too much, hah

Ok my game is not playing this fast or proper...the airlock doesn't send it STDM -

What's the recommended pitch, leg settings for the game? Right now everything is at 1".

Ok it Board 6, revision D.

I did find a disconnected cable...I connected it, and hoped this was the problem with the two eggs/ pop bumper, but no go. Opening a ticket for both with PB Bro's now..

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Thanks for info JDub03 !! - I'm having trouble locating details on PB site regarding the scoop adjustment. Can you point me to it?

A couple of followups -

Can I turn off the 'scare the crap out you' initial shake when the machine turns on?

Is the alien mouth magnet gear supposed to be 'that' loud? It's caught the ball once, but not when the ball is moving fast.

Thanks for your help! BTW, PB support was really quick to get back to me with a few other things, I'll be testing this weekend.

Anyone know how to turn the loud shake/startup off?

And - is there a way to quit a game - like sterns"Hold Left button and start for 3 secs etc"

Thanks - doesn't seem to quit (like Stern) rather, resets game to 1 player / start of new game. Is that right? Is there anyway to have it back out entirely to attract mode etc?

Just an update - got the bumpers working...the leaf clips were too far apart...used some small pliers to fix...

Still trying to get the airlock to go more to the left, but at least 90% of the time if I hold the left flipper I get a bounce back. finally starting to see some of the game modes...this is so damn cool!!

Hey all...followup - I recently shifted the pitch on an Aliens LV - I'm noticing the ball 'prelaunch' to readiness is not able to trigger enough force to kick the ball into play. Is there an adjustment for this?

Ok - update....The ball launch is performing a 'search' consistently...I cant play the game. Any suggestions?

Video:

It seems to be only searching at the ball launch - What should I be looking for ?

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Ok the Bitch is alive again...did a manual ball drain (in prep of checking the underside)...reloaded balls and , seems to be happy. I think something got confused, but not sure what...

I think the thing that's still a concern is a ...weak ball launch...I did up the launch to 20% plus...but it seems to be inconsistent. Any suggestions? Thanks all

Ok thanks - I haven't done that yet, but I did adjust 'auto launch' to 50% + , and it seems to be fine now. Probably need to bend it per @mageek's earlier suggestion and bring it back down

It's been an active arcade repair weekend...Between my jealous Ghostbuster stern machine, and my other arcade games - its a fixit weekend for sure...hahah

I have the following remaining Alien LV problem (good news, most other problems have been resolved)

It seems there is a 'weak' ball launch.

Some have suggested that I 'adjust the metal' ball launch area, by bending parts, but I don't think that is the issue.  It seems the launch is getting 'tired', especially during multi-ball modes (ex: ambush)

Examples:

I have attempted a 20% and 50% increase in auto launch...I am seeing inconsistent results, but the 50% increase seemed to help for a bit (maybe 2 hours) then it seems to have the same sluggishness.

Any thoughts or suggestions appreciated.

Hope everyone is having or had a great Easter Holiday.

Thanks man - yeah there is something going there - I made an adjustment which fixed the issue, but it reverts back after 20 minutes or a few multi balls...

Here's a video explaining what I did -

I'm not sure how to get the alignment to stay.

It was low at 5.5 but picked up a digital balance and kicked it up to last night 6.6

Nice - adding Loctite to my Lowes list...getting some small screw drivers to get into the area under the apron too to get a more firm tighten...Thanks!

Yeah, haha, made sure not to get the red, although it came in a red container...lol

Ok - will be messing with launcher tonight... One other minor problem - the ball coming out from the ball staging area, before it goes to the launch..(sorry I don't know what that's called) I noticed sometimes the ball gets stuck, and doesn't land in the launch area. I end up tilting it to get the ball to fall down / into the launcher. Happens occasionally. Any suggestions on that one?

Huh - if that's the issue, what's the fix? I can degauss them, but that's a bit frustrating.

So my launch issue seems to have been addressed...I didn't realize you could take the coil out so easily...I didn't use loctite - just adjusted and firmly tightened the screws...if it slips again, I'll be using loctite. Big thanks to everyone for their suggestions...Very much appreciated!!

doublepost...

Silly question but...those should work with the Queen mouth grab and other magnets on the game, correct?

I've tried the adjustment Pinball Bro's recommends and after several attempts (man you have to have some gorilla strength I think hah)..it no longer goes STDM. 90% of the time if I hold the left flipper, it catches it. And sometimes, it actually ejects to the left most part of the flipper, but pretty rarely. i'm pretty good with that so have left it for now. I've been adjusting Counter-Clock-Wise.

It doesn't seem loose at all, pretty damn sturdy, but I was concerned about over bending it.

Twist with pliers - Pic attached, has bit of 'Elvis' lip to the left lol

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Pliers worked for me - have you checked your machine's Right/Left leveling?

I was twisting counter clock wise - since the PB Support page it should be landing on the Left flipper (towards the left most part of it)

Sorry, I meant Clock wise...not CCW...(mixing up my arcade machines). The blue

One more followup on the failing ball launch issue...of course the launcher came misaligned again and failed to launch balls, after I 'firmly tightened' it into position.

In speaking with PB Support, they last told me that even they are using "loctite now in every sub-assembly mech"

So I redid the two screws with loctite...waited 24 hours for it to cure and it seems to have done the trick.

I think part of the issue, was, to get the coil to fire straight/aligned, I had to tighten the metal piece at a bit of an angle. This is probably completely normal / fine in most things pinball related, but thought i would mention it. (see pic)

Any way my game is playing really well - and I'm getting better at making shots some of the more difficult shots. It's so damn cool!

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***Update - looks like a busted spring...sheeet...easy fix - just stretched the existing one and ordered some spare springs** -

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Dang nabbit...got the sticky flipper issue on the bottom right flipper.

Is this still the best method to fix? https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pinball-brothers-alien-remake-owners-club/page/88#post-6643675

Also about flippers - is there anyone out there that has replaced their flippers entirely? Is there a benefit to do so? Right now, I would say the play on the flippers is a bit 'loose' and are floaty.. but I think that's by design. Kind of like the game is in 'space' Compared to my Ghostbusters, I don't feel its as accurate, but again, I'm getting used to these.

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I'm sorry but...what's going on here? Caught fire? Say what? If so that sucks...When was this particular Alien manufactured? And has PB Support weighed in?

I'd definitely echo that - minor issues on my side and this forum has been a great help.

What game is this? (Not Alien rt, there's no drop targets)

Oh...duh...thanks...yeah that's jank..

So...getting a ball stuck before it can get to the launch area

I can shake it into position, but then it tilts. happening enough now that I'll probably disable the tilt until I've fixed it.

Same video but tee'd up to where it happens again at 47 seconds:

I'm thinking some sort of material/cushion can be placed to help it bounce out, but looking for a proper solution.

Ok - that actually makes a bunch of sense - I bent it it and it seems to be playing fine and no longer catching...thanks all!

Anyone have an opinion about the targets on the LV? Was reading the history a bit on this thread, pretty interesting. (Gen 1 vs 2 etc)

One question I have - should I be 'bending' / pushing these back? I recall reading something about them 'moving' and needed to be adjusted. here's a couple of mine. I'd like them to be more sensitive, but they seem to need a dead on hit to register...perhaps that's how it should be.

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Thanks - I'm wondering if I should be 'bending' the white plastic targets back to improve the targets registering?

One thing I did - probably not directly related, but maybe...I increased the bottom flippers 15%...definitely seeing more 'action' and target hits. Saw this gent mention it and gave it a shot

Ok - new issue - drop target "C" is falling prematurely...I've seen this scenario before on a stern pin, and fixed it using a custom cut piece of pinball plastic.

Any suggestions? I haven't looked yet, but hoping I don't find a borked screw

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Thanks! yeah, I was afraid to check for the broken screw - but I may have to, lol. So I'm not quite sure what's going on, but the coil that drives the drop targets is very loose and rotates - is this ok?

Then, I think there is some kind of inconsistent spring grab happening - the "C" seems to have a different method of catching, or its catching the whole set of targets.

Any thoughts on what I need to tweak here?

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Thanks

Thanks precisionk - to confirm are you referring to the Red, Blue or something else?

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Hey folks...another (I believe minor) problem...

Xeno seems to be struggling. I noticed it seems to test on boot up 'ok' but maybe it just got lucky. During play, it is failing to 'drive', or come out of its shell... there's a few suggestions out there, but anyone have direct experience with this? I read something about loosening some screws around the Xeno mech - I will probably try that, but if anyone has any additional guidance / thoughts, definitely appreciated.

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I have a ticket open with PB support, but thought I'd note here for anyone interested. Seems the Xeno head is getting stuck during test roughly 50% of the time...seems it starts to 'pull back' and gets stuck. I attempted adjusting the switch a bit, but i don't think its getting 'stuck' due to the switch.

Ok I tried this, I'm not seeing how this is giving me much improvement. Its those two screws on the right, correct? There's not much wiggle room to force it ...but I do tend to agree, I don't think think it's the switch. Is there any other way to secure the tongue more firmly?

Ok - update, I pushed firmly in one direction - (metal bracket) up wards, and tightened, and yeah, you can tell the tongue can't extend easily. So I tried the opposite direction, and it's too loose (hence the slip), and in the middle, just the same, slip.

Also where is motor power adjustment? Not seeing it in the settings.

More of the same on this video Also - PB Support is suggesting the switch replacement. I don' think that's it

Hi Thank you - I tried again, but no luck, I could see a more thorough adjustment on the switch on your video so I tried to adjust the switch/bend again (using a leaf switch adjustment tool and my finger). I've followed up with PB Support. I think there's something going on with the tongue/gear.

Here's my latest / likely final video with this mech:

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Is this what u needed?

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Didn't realize this, where's the preferred location to install the spring? One of mine broke, but I stretched what was left and its holding, and the other slipped out and I remounted, and stretched the connecting piece of the spring, but to the same location. Ordered spare springs, but still holding the original (even tho one broke).

Ahh..brother I feel your pain...that's a bit of a whoops...hah...so far PB Support has been solid, but the little things like this are frustrating especially when you want to play. I am curious about the opto's too...its very cool when the left drain gets a save - but I wonder how that works. (it's magic!) lol

Curious what the feedback is on this.. What Stern switch is being recommended? Is there a part number?

I definitely felt the game was very 'floaty' when I first started playing..but this I understand it typical of bally/williams games...I can say the more I play the more I'm able to make shots, and there's definitely some great 'flow' happening now that i've gotten better. I boosted each bottom flipper up 15% based on feedback I heard from another owner (he made a video and mentioned this). That ball lock is hard...I've made it many times but I don't think more than one ball has gotten in during a single game and I don't think I ever 'planned' it

I get the frustration - hang in there - its a great game once it's dialed in. PB Support has been pretty solid so far.

Here's the list of issues I've had but most of them have been addressed:

1. Power On - Screen doesn't display, have to reboot, sometimes 2-3 times, mostly 1 time

2. Xeno Mech - SW Error 1 - Tried adjusting screws and shifting nylon block. Re-secured the switch mounts. Adjusted the switch after several temps, made no difference:

(Replacement mech being shipped free of charge, arrives next Thursday)

3. Bottom Right Flipper - stuck up (Right Spring broke, stretched remaining spring part and hasn't failed yet but bought new springs)

4. Bottom Left Flipper (stuck up). Spring came loose. Bought spare springs - Sega/Stern Flipper Extension Spring 265-5035-00. haven't installed.

5. Drop ball into launch - Stuck on launch wire - fix - bent/stretched wire

6. Launch failing - Shape of coil mount slightly crooked. Caused launch to get stuck. Fix: partial rebuild / align / rescrew coil and mount. Used "Loctite Blue" on screws (screws did not hold otherwise).

7. Cabinet front door - hard to shut - Not sure what's causing this - have to give it a good slam to get in position to lock - sometimes lock get stuck. Noticed a fallen off / loose screw on the inside- remounted - still hard to shut (not fixed)

8. Egg/Pop Bumbers did not function when the ball hit them - Adjusted leaf switches to make the 'closer' used a pair of pliers - but bought a leaf adjustment tool for future. Because they are considered 'low quality', heard these can be changed out with Stern part (need to confirm)

9. APC/Drop Targets - seem to be very sensitive - and sometimes "C" and "P" drop down at vibration or flipper click - or barely touch. Was advised to attempt alignment of the drop target piece. Not seeing how the alignment is off, haven't attempted removing the part entirely from the playfield to inspect further.

I think that's it - only ones that are really bothering me at 1,7 and 9. Everything else has been solved or has an easy work around.

I'm considering this - I have the "alien motion tracker" and apron planned for install. I was assuming this could plug into existing wiring w/out much of an issue. (not sure how yet, hope the instructions with those mods offers some guidance)

If one does run a separate 12V supply - are you routing a separate A/C plug for the machine? Haven't done this yet - but considered doing something similar here:

I just replaced the Xeno mech due to failing issue - after PB Brother support sent me a new one.

Went in pretty basic - needed to unmount the scope to get access to it, but anyway -

It seems to work fine, however - it's making this noise - almost like the motor/mechanism is struggling or getting stressed.

Does anyone else's Xeno mech make this noise? Should I be concerned? It goes away after it 'does its thing' during a multi ball etc, but it may be a prob down the road.

Not sure how audible it will be with glass on.

hah, yeah that's it - it goes away when I push up wonder how I can adjust it so it doesn't make that noise from time to time. need to play around with it

Update - I pushed on the chin upwards - seems to have addressed....The bitch is back...hah!

I meant before the tongue extends...it was related to the mechanism that drops the mouth

Hey all - hope your alien pinball is treating you right.

Going back to troubleshooting this. I haven't really identified the issue. This is the first time I've taken the drop target setup out. I'm still dealing with alien tongue woes specific to the jaw dropping getting stuck and not closing - (even though i got a brand new unit, apparently I am being told I need to 'calibrate') At this point waiting for loctite to cure before I can test the calibration PB Brother's recommended.

But anyway - yeah, my drop targets are (still) very sensitive - sometimes both "P" and "C" drop when the flipper is hit.
I have the part out, but I'm not sure what to adjust, tighten, check or otherwise.

Here's a current video. As always, any help appreciated.

cheers!

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Ok - also revisiting this...what is up with my targets?

Issue: Some of the targets aren't registering hits. It was mentioned to "lock tite them targets."

On what am I supposed to locktite? The screws? Parts of the target?

I haven't tested them via the machine test - but I was just checking out two different targets. The one on the left doesn't click when pushed, while the one on the right does! I only have one target that doesn't 'click'. I read something about version 1 and version 2 targets for this machine, and thought, well maybe I have a version 1 for just one of my targets...HOWEVER..upon further inspection, the one on the left doesn't have a switch/click attached.

Is this a problem? I suspect the other targets needs to be adjusted still (i.e. the ones that click) but not sure how (yet).

Any help appreciated.

cheers

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I found the switch on the bottom of the machine...and I was able to fix, broke out the solder iron and repaired it. Clicks and tested, (works) (yayyy)

So followup question - kind of what I was alluding to earlier - for the other switches, I want to make more 'sensitive'/ responsive - someone mentioned adding loctite to the switches. I'm wondering where, or what other adjustment I can make? Or if there's any other general tip to improve switch hit response? It wasn't just the switch that I repaired that had accuracy issues when playing.

Someone also mentioned replacing with another manufacturer's part (Stern?) or maybe I'm getting mixed up.

Thanks,

That's a positive update drypaint ...I would echo the sentiment on Andrea - he's been a great resource. Just sent me a custom video to fine tune the Xeno head that I'm currently reviewing.

I'll post it soon, want to make sure it's fixing my prob.

Possibly? again my comment was more to highlight PB support's responsiveness and support.

My current issue with the jaw not opening enough for tongue to come out. I had been working with PB Support on another issue where the tongue wasn't coming out / getting stuck. The new Xeno head sent, mouth comes out, but jaw is not aligned.

Here was the video Andrea made for me: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gtq3u1gmg0q2zsx/DSCN0242.MOV?dl=0

I havent had a chance to review fully or to further attempt repair test. Plan to do that tonight.

LV #28 - Hey all - just an update. I FINALLY had a chance to try the instructions on the video to 'calibrate' the Xeno head, per the instructions received from Andrea.

I think what may help folks in the future is to have the playfield standing so you can access the bottom, and connect the Xeno head there to perform the calibration as done in this video. Still useful to have two people. but this simplified the process.

Also my APC targets are nice and stable. I cut a couple of pieces of thick'ish paper and aligned with the plastic drop target ledge piece.

I actually did a similar thing on my Ghostbusters awhile back and it seemed to help.

Lastly - I had a water leak in my ceiling in my game room....So that obviously took precedence moving everything out...nothing got damaged/wet, but was a scare!

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Yes - that's exactly what I did. Still helped to have a second person. The original instructions support provided (before Andrea made that video) didn't articulate this but doing this did the trick. It appears the Xeno needed to be upside down when doing the calibration with the screw and gear clip is off. Essentially, the mouth reverts to 'shut' at the completion of the calibration. When the gear lock is off it won't mechanically close the mouth, but gravity will. You do have to hold the mouth open while the tongue extends and pulls back.

Anyone recommend how to make this tough shot? Is it makeable from the lower left flipper?

Whenever I get to the "Bug Hunt" mode, and attempt to complete before the colonist 'chest burster' scene, I can never make this shot.

I'm thinking i need to start from the bottom right flipper, bounce to the "MU/TH/R" , and then attempt to shoot from the mid left. Any suggestions?

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Had a recurring issue - Alien mouth gets stuck with tongue out - and holding a ball. Never pulls in. When the game/mode finishes, it doesn't reset. Only fix is to power/on off, but has fixed both times this has occurred (maybe once a month)

I'm on version 2.6. Was considering upgrading to 2.7 but admittedly the game appears pretty stable aside from this issue and occasional lock up when on for over 3 hours or so, requiring a reboot.

Before I upgrade to 2.7, does anyone have an experience downgrading back to a previous version (i.e. version 2.6) or can forward instructions? Would rather not temporarily brick the system by way of a failed update.

Thanks