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Quoted from Madmike:I believe I've gotten all of issues resolved on my machine. So it is now located at Maltese Brewing Company in Fredericksburg, VA.
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Seeing this while waiting to go on the log ride, now I hope to convince the family to stop on the way home from Kings Dominion park this afternoon! Thanks MadMike!
Quoted from Utesichiban:Better game than Stranger Things?
I made it to Maltese to check out the new machine. Only had a chance to watch and play a few games, but it really passed the eye test. I would have liked to have stayed and played for hours, but the family was in tow after a long, hot day at Kings Dominion Park and I had a long drive ahead.
I own a STh LE, and chuckled to see the Alien parked next to one. The pins cannot be compared in any way, I don't think.
Long story short, I love the wide body of the Alien. Build quality appears great. Flippers are light and responsive.
A beautiful machine. I want one!
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Also, huge shout out to Maltese Brewing Company. Great venue, amazing pins, awesome beer (drinking one right now). Looking forward to making a trip back as soon as possible!
20210710_193907 (resized).jpgQuoted from WeirPinball:Ummm I didn't pay cost - and I am pretty flexible at this point
PM'd WeirPinball
Quoted from kciaccio:Yep. I have that issue.
I am brand new to the club and experience the exact same black screen upon boot completion as well. In each case, I have found that if I re-seat the HDMI connection in the backbox, the screen comes on without a need to reboot. This leads me to believe that this is an HDCP handshake issue. Has anyone suggested this as a potential culprit? A workaround for such an issue would be to put a cheap, $20 splitter in line between the HDMI output and the monitor that "accidentally" strips the HDCP copy protection from the output. I will test this in the next day or so and report back.
Quoted from Rockbiter:EDIT: DO not try this until feedback is received from Pinball Brothers on a possible reason for this issue, per Zablon's advice below
I am brand new to the club and experience the exact same black screen upon boot completion as well. In each case, I have found that if I re-seat the HDMI connection in the backbox, the screen comes on without a need to reboot. This leads me to believe that this is an HDCP handshake issue. Has anyone suggested this as a potential culprit? A workaround for such an issue would be to put a cheap, $20 splitter in line between the HDMI output and the monitor that "accidentally" strips the HDCP copy protection from the output. I will test this in the next day or so and report back.
I tested this theory last night and confirmed that, at least in my case, the computer was not HDCP compliant (which is why "monitor 1" in the cabinet always works, but "monitor 2" in the backbox boots to black). I installed a cheap 1x2 HDMI Splitter that strips HDCP inline between the computer and the monitor and the machine no longer boots to a black screen. For me, this is huge, because I don't want to tip down the backbox, open the glass or reboot the screen to go in and reseat the HDMI connection to get a signal to the screen.
If you are looking for an HDMI splitter that strips HDCP, it can be hit or miss to find one. Here is a link to some that do: https://www.tweaking4all.com/home-theatre/remove-hdcp-hdmi-signal/
I have several of the model I am using in the photo nd they all strip HDCP.
When first conducting the test, I simply plugged the output of the computer HDMI into the input on the splitter, and HDMI 1 output of the splitter to the screen, dropping the splitter into the cabinet and running the power adapter to the outside of the cabinet and latching the backbox. Once I confirmed that the solution worked, I plugged and IEC fan out into the power supply in the cabinet and plugged the HDMI splitter into the fan out, which allows the splitter to always be on. I put the glass back on and the machine is booting to an active screen every time. Photos attached.
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Quoted from precisionk:It would be interesting to see if there are hardware revisions between SV and LV for the computer and the monitor. I am going to assume as in any factory, they grab out of a bin of parts and go from there. Perhaps it could be something as goofy as the firmware of the monitor being different between machines? Really hard to say. It would be cool if there was an option within settings to run a debug/code version file run to see what people have and firmware.
FWIW, SV build date is September 2021. Firmware could totally be a culprit.
Quoted from Zablon:IMO this isnt something that should need guessed at. I would relay your findings to PB and see what they say. This shouldn't and most likely was not intended to be necessary. I had this issue 1 time on 2.2 and haven't had it since.
Good call. I'll send this along to PB.
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