Pretty sharp looking!

Thanks for putting it on location, looking forward to flipping it!

Strong work!

Burthamburg... you were supposed to be the chosen ones!!

Played one on location last week. One of the lower flipper bats had already broken and been replaced and during my play the upper right snapped off. The flippers also lost power during gameplay more than once. I wonder if the resets and possibly the flipper power issues are related to lugs being grounded like the one dude had with his drops.

First machine from a new manufacturer. There are going to be growing pains and so far it seems they've done a good job with support and are working through the problems. I wish I had one to help with the testing

Cuz that's how software works just in case they change something that bricks the CPU or causes other worse issues.

I thought it was Italy

No photos and doesnt sound like much to offset The price hike
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I really wish they at least made the backbox screen larger. Some real low hanging fruit there. The lit interior sounds cool though.

Not a xeno head sculpt, xeno head side armor (etched or laser cut) it looks like

Is it just the translite art that is different? Same PF I'm guessing?

Aurich did you do the side blades and backboard as well? What was it like working with the lighting features / how did you go about that as far as design?

Makes sense Aurich. I'd love to hear about the artwork process for stuff like that some in the future. I always wonder about how the artwork evolves around the tech and which is driving which in one direction or another. Same goes for playfields and insert placement and design and all that.

Rats. I thought I was pretty early too. Was it email or a phone call cuz I think I ignored like 4 calls today that I assumed were all regarding my car's extended warranty.

My cointaker preorder $1 was Jan 10 and I haven't gotten invoiced yet.

got my invoice this evening

Anybody who paid the LV deposit get a timeframe estimate on the balance due and shipping?

I think I remember reading about people not having the correct vertical gap on flippers causing problems. With the linkage against the bushing it should the thickness of a credit card between the flipper and bushing on top.

So do we have people with a confirmed working game that doesn't need restarted every now and again and is doing what is supposed to do for long periods of time? I was under the impression we did but I dont see a whole bunch speaking up.

Well that last reply is at least some good news. As far as the other question I was looking for something like "I have played this game on and off for weeks at a time without issues and would trust it on location" kind of stability.

I have an LV on order and usually put games straight on location but this one will definitely come home first to make sure it's stable. AND for me to rigorously test it.

I don't have one, but I'd verify connectivity of both flipper button wires and compare the right and left sides from behind the button to the board they connect to.

There's 0 fucking way. That would be ridiculous.

The sound package on the game is uh-fricking-mazing I dont know why you'd want to change it

Has anybody received an est pay in full / est delivery date for an LV?

Rock. I'll plan for late Feb then if the past is any indication

Are they rgb or just white / gi?

Big fix! Strong work Cato and team!

You rule Ferret! Wanted one since the OG and I'm waiting patiently for an LV. It'll be on location down here once it's had plenty of home testing done

I've sent cointaker two emails asking for ETAs on payment due with zero response. Based on that I bought another game and hope it will be a while.

I think that ramp bend might be from them tightening the screws down all the way under the playfield. Any ramp flap should be installed with the minimum bend required to make it sit flat along the playfield.

Regarding your flippers... do they move smoothly when you operate them with your hand? Correct amount of vertical travel?

This is what I was going to say. Make sure when you do this you get the top spacing with the credit card and bring the linkage up flush with the bushing on the bottom. See if they move freely after that. If they do, I'd try to work with just the flipper bat in place and see if you feel drag. If you do, you have a contact problem with the flipper or bushing. If you dont, you likely have an alignment or other issue.

Aww yiss

Do the orbit posts have a return spring that may be too strong or something, or any other physical issues?

I put my dollar down pretty early and haven't been contacted. I hope I make the cut!

Yeah I did the 1K as well. Sent cointaker a few emails asking for an ETA about a month ago with no response.

Did you have a $1 before that?

Dang. I was 1/10 $1 deposit and 10/1 the 1k and I didn't get asked for payment yet.

Aliens: the curse of the two weeks

Careful now everybody is going to rage post to get theirs!

Byaaaagh I'm so mad ship my LV already blargh!

Does it have an EOS? Is it gapped too widely?

Well... that's going to be a problem then unless they just up the hold power right (if they can without burning up the coil)? Otherwise there's no way for the flipper to know it's been knocked down.

There has to be accompanying code you can't just magic EOS switches in.

And duh, yeah I know they're not necessary to set hold power but they are necessary for the game to know if the mech has been forced back down under hold power.

The one in Allentown left flippers weren't working when I walked up

A spring? Pic plz.

This was both left flippers... unless they're not operating because EOS isn't properly opened / closed but I didn't think these ones had an EOS

I can't even get a response from CT on my place in line or a rough estimate on when my balance might be due on an LV.

Anybody been billed by CT lately for what's on the container?

Resurrection was great F the haters. Well it was mostly great. Unit Alien human bebeh.

No the code updates are being done by their craft services dept.

Srsly? Play an 80s Williams!

The foam in front of the targets is not an acceptable fix no diggity

I can't find the photo of the switch stack on the last few pages, can somebody repost?

Nice. Wonder where I fall in the queue.

Invoiced today as well. It said the game will be at their facility next week. We shall see...

I never received a game number unless it was in one of the order emails somewhere.

Anybody have the info on the ship? I sent an email to cointaker but I asked two questions and they seem to reply to a maximum of one question, if they reply at all.

Bummed cointaker wouldn't let me make the trip and pick it up instead of paying the $400+ shipping either. Bunch of doodoo.

Aaargh this was so disappointing about the blades I got from them for BKSoR. They must design them outside the cab. There's this awesome studded leather look along the bottom that you never see as it's completely under the playfield.

LV #33 is delivered and on location at Center of the Universe brewery in Ashland, VA.

Flippers were cranked down tight. Properly gapping them from the bushing increased the power greatly. Most everything worked out of the box with the exception of the left flipper cabinet switches barely making contact at full push, an easy fix.

The coin door situation was a mess. One works properly for quarters. One registers a full credit as if it was a DBA. The other loose wire does nothing when connected in the appropriate place. There is no DBA harness that I could see. I'll put in a service ticket when I get home.

The sound is so good. Any fan of the movies will be pleased. I hope my players give it enough plays to learn the shots, it's definitely a different world being a wide body.

Anybody add a DBA to one of these? How did you connect it?

I'm pretty sure my backbox keys were in the coin door from the one I unboxed yesterday. May be floating around in the bottom of the cab. Very non traditional backbox lock.

My flippers were really weak out the gate as they were tight to the playfield if you end up with the same issue. Couldn't make the hyper sleep ramp.

I just remembered to ask... what was the fix for the tongue sounding all nasty? Mine def sounds horrible with the glass off. Also, who was selling the badass alternate translite using the inside of the cab?

My right ramp is absolutely like buttah. You want the ramp flap to be as "loose" as it can be while being flush all the way across the front. If they crank down on the bolts at the factory it can kill the momentum.

Yeah the right vertical u turn ramp. I'm not at my game now to look at it but I'm assuming it has a traditional flexible metal ramp flap.

Hypersleep is the middle ramp isn't it?

I did forget to mention my coin switch wires were on the "normally closed" position and needed switched to normally open.

How can you tell if your xeno gear needs tightened? Mine works but sounds horrible.

Where do the LV side blades light up

Is the switch below the right orbit supposed to act as a ball deflector on the way back down or is my shit out of alignment?

Also who's got some cool apron cards?

Thanks, ugh. Hopefully I can fudge it back over.

I/o board error on my new on-location LV after two days of no issies

Tried all the re-seating, changed cables, v2.7, fuses good. I imagine they're going to send me a new controller box but I'm waiting on an email reply.

Just FYI the email I got from PB says that the LEDs near the fuses are not for the fuses themselves so be sure to meter them.

Has anybody received an email from them since about noon Saturday? Is their support M-F?

I received 0 info from cointaker after requesting it. I found out that it was actually on the road when my location asked me what the hell was in the giant box that just got dropped off.

PB is sending me a new playfield controller box for my i/o error.

They do have their own forum and FAQ, it's just not very good or complete.

Here's the problem I have... they knew that cranking the flippers down flush with playfield was causing problems FOR MONTHS. Why are games still being delivered with the same exact problems? No doubt they're working hard but why not save yourself all the trouble of the support contacts by plugging in the LEDs and disabling them in code? I'm really glad to have mine in hand finally and I'll be even more glad when it's working, it just seems like there are some institutional issues going on - and they probably need to hire Ferret back to get some of these code issues worked out. Dude would probably have target lights integrated in two days.

My LV arrived about two weeks after initial billing, but it has been all over the place historically.

Anybody have any playfield controller box replacement pro tips? Does the whole playfield really need to come out?

Fuck they really need to change the key post rules back to the way they were

Holy fuck that was the instructions they gave you???

I just feel like I'd at least like a "jump connector j1 pin 6 to the leg of r16 or something

My replacement playfield controller box arrived damaged. A part loose inside that completely lifted the pad / trace it was attached to. Having a frustrating time working with a company located this many time zones away. Just want a new box overnighted. Cointaker does not answer or return calls SHOCKER. PB marketing team via insta says contact support but its after hours so don't expect a reply. I just need someone to tell this jabroni in Dubois PA to overnight me a new box.

That was step 1. I just want someone to tell me something is being done instead of it sitting there for a few days like it did last time.

Make sure they're not tight to the bushing. Some users have replaced the PB bushings with William's due to the tops being rough and causing drag.

Yeah I feel like that heatsink is doing nothing but block airflow.

I want someone to make a relay that Powers the fans only when a game is being played.

What's the power supply for yalls fans, 5v or 12v? Where are you pulling from?

Plugged into the service outlet?

I've been trying to come up with a way to make them run only when the game is on. Something like a sound activated relay that stays on for 5 minutes after hearing a flipper go clack.

I have games on location that I'd consider putting fans on but I'd only want them running while games are played plus a few minutes

Droop should make your orbits easier to hit, might have been the vertical play?

I have not had the same experience by a long shot. I'm reluctant to post on how fucking pissed off I am at the support they provided as I still have a TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLAR BRICK sitting on my location for TWO WEEKS and don't want to give them a reason to drag their heels. If I knew it would have been so long I would have pulled it but it's been "just another day" the whole time. Hopefully my part will finally arrive on Monday and I can get this thing flipping. I can't believe they sent it USPS ground.

Sucks having this as my A number 1 grail theme. I never would have bought it with all the problems that have been reported otherwise. I'm concerned that they have major issues with their hardware. How the hell have they known that ratcheting down the flippers has caused problems for months and games are still being delivered the same way? What the hell is going on over there?

I just want this shit to work. Drunk post over.

Playfield control box

So a lot of the games delivered recently have had weak flippers out of the box. When you install / align flipper bats there is a tool you use to create the proper gap between the linkage and bushing (you actually put the gap tool on the top between the bushing and bat but it's all the same as when you remove the tool the bat drops on the bushing and the gap is between the bushing and the linkage). This keeps the plunger in alignment with the coil / sleeve and makes everything as strong as possible. PB has installed the flippers with the linkage and flipper bat both tight to the bushing which causes drag and misalignment, robbing the flippers of power. Take your glass off and try to lift the flipper bat straight off of the game. There should be about a credit card's thickness in vertical play if they are aligned properly.

How is the sneering face of an alien incongruent with the art package?

Yes. Bonus points if you wallow out a little channel to make it easier.

However, if you don't like I do one out of every 20 times you'll drop the tool and it will slide down somewhere really hard to get to on the playfield and make you swear.

Yes. Bonus points if you wallow out a little channel to make it easier.
However, if you do it like I do one out of every 10 times you'll drop the tool and it will slide down somewhere really hard to get to on the playfield and make you swear.

That wont make me any less likely to drop it but might make it easier to find!

Finally got my playfield controller box in. Wish me luck, colonial marines.

My game is finally back up and running. After getting the new playfield controller box in, the hypersleep ramp was too tight to pass a ball, the drops would not fall as the reset bar was too tight to go all the way back down, two GI lights were not functioning, and the side blades would not light. I could not get Pinball Brothers or their PA support person to call or text me. Called cointaker and they said they'd see what they could do about getting someone to contact me. I got so pissed I had to go on a ten minute walk to calm down. Fixed the hypersleep ramp, but adjusting it moves the optos out of perfect alignment. They still work but it doesn't instill much confidence. Got the drops working but had to use some light oil on the metal on metal contact which is not good. They eventually emailed me back saying it probably just needs a coil stop adjustment (it was tight). I need to go back up there with a PC power supply and see if I can get the art blades to light as it's likely the box in the bottom of the cab.

After I got it fully functional gameplay wise I started to flip it and I was just so pissed off at the game I was contemplating whether I should try to sell it or trade it for a TBL or just set it on fire. Two games later I love it again. The theme integration is just so good and it's my favorite movie of all time. The callouts are amazing. I had a horrible experience with their support and continue to be not very impressed. They do seem to be trying, they are always just a day late and a dollar short. I would not recommend this game to anybody who isn't a very capable repair person. I definitely would not recommend it for location without a good burn in period at home. We'll see if she holds up alright after all the bugs are finally worked out.

If you've checked the fuses, contact PB because you need a new playfield controller box.

The crimps on all of these connectors are atrocious. Don't pull on anything because there is a good chance it will pop out.

My side blades did not light. The crimps were bad, and the 12v and ground wires were reversed from what was coming out of the box, so even if the crimps were right it would not have worked. Looks beautiful all lit up now!

IMO the number one thing this game needs is to reduce the in-scoop time when it isn't starting a mode. Slows the game down way too much and ends up there quite frequently. I know you need to wait for the ball to settle but it should be fairly easy to program.

Had the problem with the ball not being pulled back far enough occasionally, but the tongue seems to be calibrated. Couldn't make it happen when I was on location working on it the other day but i know it was happening intermittently. Is the switch leaf falling off the side of the tongue / rail thing or something? It should be consistently one way or the other if it's the switch needing adjusted, and when it does happen it is off by a lot.

One more gripe... the spinners are not made right. If you get the arms to be all lined up properly the spinner will sit horizontal. The arms need to look like they are shrugging to get the spinner to sit right. Anybody try to replace theirs with Sterns or other pieces?

The bottom of the playfield will keep moving forward in the cab until it is completely vertical.

I believe the targets have been left unplugged so people wouldn't complain about them not working as they're not coded. Don't know how they don't have them coded yet after this long.

The xeno tongue makes an unholy racket. There is a set screw on the gear that may need tightened. I sent a video of mine to support and they said they were all like that (!) and it was normal. I can't see it lasting that long with all the noise and shaking it does.

I'm going to see if Stern's skinny spinners have the same arms and can be used as a replacement. While these ones work okay while out of square, I'm a bit of a spinner enthusiast and can't tolerate non-maximum spinnage.

Those are sharp!!!

This purchase will be worth it IF Pinball Brothers can stay afloat and continue support. I have a little bit of concern about Queen as their next title. A great group, but I don't know if it's a home run as a pin theme. Game play better be on point. Or, PB better have deep enough pockets to float them until they can get it together.

What are the best shooting on this list? You think STTNG then Alien? Maybe Alien on top? I only played 2 games on Full Throttle but remember being impressed with how it played.

If your game is playing slow I'd highly encourage you to check your flipper gaps and playfield angle. I was struck by how slow it was out of the box and a few tweaks had it playing like any other pin.

I continue to have frustration with my xeno tongue stopping prematurely. The switch is working as it should, the thing just think it is at zero when it isn't all the way back. Next time I'm on site I'm going to check that the gear is tight but it was when I first investigated this issue if anybody has any recommendations on other things to look at.

When diagnosing I did the loop test for a few goes. The playfield and magnet were extremely hot after just a handful of reps and took over an hour to cool down. I wouldn't be surprised if my magnet coil was damaged. Don't run that loop for very long.

The drop issue is something that could be duct tape fixed in code. If position equals zero, switch equals inactive, and ball in airlock scoop equals false, I have fucked up. PB hire me now.

I'd get that info direct from PB my dude.

Is it getting pulled back by tension on the cables? That shouldn't happen.

With how these boxes are, I would not be shocked if you got 2 crap ones.

I wrote a bigass post about my continuing experiences with the product and support, and erased it as I will likely continue needing support for who knows how long. If I wasn't emotionally invested in the theme to an foolish degree this thing would be either in the marketplace or on fire at the front door of cointaker.

Did they do anything with the other target LEDs

That shaker motor going at 10000 RPMs at the beginning definitely could be shaking the mech loose (if it's a problem like mine where it is binding and doesn't drop freely). From taking mine off and looking at it the other day it seems like the coil stop and front bracket for the coil do not line up properly and whatever bending you need to do is kind of a duct tape fix to get something that is not properly aligned "good enough" to be able to let the plunger move on a sort of inline angle.

I'm tired of messing with this thing. Just frickin work already. I have two GI lights that don't work that supposedly don't work for anyone and it's due to code. 141 GI left revive and 7 GI subway. Can someone confirm they are also not working on theirs? I can almost understand not having the standups programmed as they need to color coordinate, react to hits, etc (even though it's been, what, half a year) but how do you not just add these two lamps into the same code running the rest of the GI.