Quoted from Mageek:Do you actually own one? If not I guess you’ll be spending your money elsewhere. See ya
Ordered last January, now paid for in full and shipping shorlty. I just hope my one is from a newer less buggy batch. CYA
Quoted from Mageek:Do you actually own one? If not I guess you’ll be spending your money elsewhere. See ya
Ordered last January, now paid for in full and shipping shorlty. I just hope my one is from a newer less buggy batch. CYA
Quoted from drypaint:Same question... Did you buy one Optimiser? If not WTF are you talking about? If any of us early adopters have issues that is for us to decide. Many of us got in early for a reason dude.
As I said PB brothers love you/us for being their customer/testers and paying them for it.
Would you do that with a car, TV, PC, etc? I don't think so, so why should a pinball machine be any different from any other (expensive) consumer item. If it was a car in the USA you could claim the "lemon law".
Quoted from drypaint:Same question... Did you buy one Optimiser? If not WTF are you talking about? If any of us early adopters have issues that is for us to decide. Many of us got in early for a reason dude.
Why, to pay PB to be their testers? Would you do that with a car, TV, PC, etc? I don't think so, so why should a pinball machine be any different from any other (expensive) consumer item. If it was a car in the USA you could claim the "lemon law".
Quoted from Optimiser:Why, to pay PB to be their testers? Would you do that with a car, TV, PC, etc? I don't think so, so why should a pinball machine be any different from any other (expensive) consumer item. If it was a car in the USA you could claim the "lemon law".
I can see you're going to be one of those customers that no one wants as a customer. If I were PB, I would cancel your order and tell you to go buy a car, TV or PC instead.
Quoted from brado426:I can see you're going to be one of those customers that no one wants as a customer. If I were PB, I'd cancel your order right now and tell you to buy a TV or PC instead.
Quoted from Optimiser:Why, to pay PB to be their testers? Would you do that with a car, TV, PC, etc? I don't think so, so why should a pinball machine be any different from any other (expensive) consumer item. If it was a car in the USA you could claim the "lemon law".
You are acting like this isn't a normal thing in pinball and that PB is somehow unique in that aspect. I don't like it either, but it is the reality of the hobby sadly. If you don't want to be a beta tester, you may as well cancel your order and wait until next year to order, or buy one used that's had everything fixed. Bitching here about it isn't going to solve anything - especially if you really already paid so you too are 'part of the problem' just like the rest of us. You don't even have it in hand yet and are driving yourself nuts over it.
Wait, so you're saying this ISN'T a public forum where communities come to discus both sides of selected topics. Someone should change the title of this thread to something more appropriate to warn others! Only people with lil brown stains on their noses are allowed to post in here!
Quoted from Dee-Bow:Wait, so you're saying this ISN'T a public forum where communities come to discus both sides of selected topics. Someone should change the title of this thread to something more appropriate to warn others! Only people with lil brown stains on their noses are allowed to post in here!
Correct this is a public forum so go open a thread to “warn others” and call it WTF you like instead of providing useless drivel in the owners thread
Quoted from Mageek:Correct this is a public forum so go open a thread to “warn others” and call it WTF you like instead of providing useless drivel in the owners thread
I think the new thread should be called "Afraid/unwilling to work on pinball machines?"
The negativity is absolutely useless and non-constructive drivel. I've worked with whiners and moaners at past jobs and they are really miserable to deal with. Don't be one of those people. Be the "can-do.... we can do it" type of person.
Quoted from Mageek:Correct this is a public forum so go open a thread to “warn others” and call it WTF you like instead of providing useless drivel in the owners thread
Nah
Unfortunately, the days of games being play-tested for months before selling to the general public are over.
Spooky is on the right track with keeping their halloween games around the shop for a couple of weeks before mass producing .
The only hope is to have great customer service , which PB is currently excelling in.
Quoted from Mageek:Man I hate this game
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Holy Shit.....Game over MAN. Impressive.
Quoted from Royale-W-Cheese:Holy Shit.....Game over MAN. Impressive.
682 of those were with the glass off troubleshooting
Quoted from Zablon:682 of those were with the glass off troubleshooting
oh shit.. made me shoot milk out my nose. funny shit.
Quoted from dri:DHL notification in Italian received! Bravissimo!
Care package inbound? Streaming the repairs?
Quoted from Zablon:682 of those were with the glass off troubleshooting
ouch...that was too soon...HAHA
Quoted from Royale-W-Cheese:Holy Shit.....Game over MAN. Impressive.
Quoted from ezeltmann:Unfortunately, the days of games being play-tested for months before selling to the general public are over.
Spooky is on the right track with keeping their halloween games around the shop for a couple of weeks before mass producing .
The only hope is to have great customer service , which PB is currently excelling in.
I think spooky has learnt from some problems on past machines.
From personal experience on my ACNC, I had a right orbit shot which delivered the ball SDTM pretty much every time. A right ramp which if the shot was a slow one, left the ball hanging on the plate that attaches the ramp to the mini playfield that no amount of shaking would free. A floating ball guide that over time wore its way through the clearcoat on the playfield. Also on the mini playfield, the ball is prone to jumping the top crypt switch causing the game to go into a ball search and loosing your multiball.
It's the game in my lineup that has had the glass off the most.
A friend had one and sold it due to the amount of problems he had.
Fortunately I am a practical person and have found solutions for all of the problems I have had, and my machine plays great now. No regrets at all. The only thing I need from Spooky's end is a code update.
Quoted from kciaccio:If the ever made Alien a ride in Orlando.
We used to have one lol. Technically 2. Yes I know the second one was technically a show not a ride, and not the Alien brand but still terrified children haha.
However there was a scene in the great movie ride that was Alien.
The Great Movie Ride (Alien Scene) - MGM/Hollywood Studios, Was replaced by Mickey's Runaway Railway last year.
Alien Encounter - Magic Kingdom, Was replaced by Stitch's Great Escape! years ago and is now sitting abandoned.
OHH and we had an AVP house at Halloween Horror Nights a few years ago. You had to crawl through the last 50ft through the vents... One of my favorite houses ever!
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Part of what makes Alien/s so good is the music and sound fx. I hope they incorporate more sounds from the movies because the game needs it. What they have in there is good but it needs to be Epic.
Quoted from macethetemplar:We used to have one lol. Technically 2. Yes I know the second one was technically a show not a ride, and not the Alien brand but still terrified children haha.
However there was a scene in the great movie ride that was Alien.
The Great Movie Ride (Alien Scene) - MGM/Hollywood Studios, Was replaced by Mickey's Runaway Railway last year.
Alien Encounter - Magic Kingdom, Was replaced by Stitch's Great Escape! years ago and is now sitting abandoned.
OHH and we had an AVP house at Halloween Horror Nights a few years ago. You had to crawl through the last 50ft through the vents... One of my favorite houses ever!
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Man, I loved Alien Encounter
Quoted from pcprogrammer:What is the weight of this pin compared to a Stern? Just curious.
$1000.00 bills lighter
Quoted from Mageek:Yes it is, now go over to the Elvira thread which you also don’t own and throw down some more useful opinions…
Genius. Hundreds of pins vs a sprinkling of games and not one that doesn't have issues. I really don't care.
Quoted from Paulatron:I think spooky has learnt from some problems on past machines.
From personal experience on my ACNC, I had a right orbit shot which delivered the ball SDTM pretty much every time. A right ramp which if the shot was a slow one, left the ball hanging on the plate that attaches the ramp to the mini playfield that no amount of shaking would free. A floating ball guide that over time wore its way through the clearcoat on the playfield. Also on the mini playfield, the ball is prone to jumping the top crypt switch causing the game to go into a ball search and loosing your multiball.
It's the game in my lineup that has had the glass off the most.
A friend had one and sold it due to the amount of problems he had.
Fortunately I am a practical person and have found solutions for all of the problems I have had, and my machine plays great now. No regrets at all. The only thing I need from Spooky's end is a code update.
My ACNC bad been broken most of the time I have owned it. Everytime I play a few games something happens. Never again! What a POS! I am giving it away to a good friend of mine. He says that he will deal with it. Thanks god!
Quoted from joetechbob:Hmm, my ACNC has been super solid, other than 1 servo that was DOA when I unboxed the game.
Mine has been pretty reliable as well, just some minor tweaks and adjustments
What was the sticky flipper fix again? Left flipper is sticking. I need to go through the thread and put together a OneNote.
Also my flipper bats do not have a logo on them. Are these the ones that have issues cracking?
Edit: Found it
Quoted from brado426:I can see you're going to be one of those customers that no one wants as a customer. If I were PB, I would cancel your order and tell you to go buy a car, TV or PC instead.
You're hilarious and not PB.
I knew I'd win the arguement with you, your response proves it. Just admit that your happy to pay money to be a product tester, simple as that.
You bought one as well so doesn’t that make you a product tester too? I don’t understand your rationing.
Quoted from Optimiser:You're hilarious and not PB.
I knew I'd win the arguement with you, your response proves it. Just admit that your happy to pay money to be a product tester, simple as that.
You won the argument... great... whatever.... anything to make you go away. Pinball is not for you.
Quoted from Zablon:You are acting like this isn't a normal thing in pinball and that PB is somehow unique in that aspect. I don't like it either, but it is the reality of the hobby sadly. If you don't want to be a beta tester, you may as well cancel your order and wait until next year to order, or buy one used that's had everything fixed. Bitching here about it isn't going to solve anything - especially if you really already paid so you too are 'part of the problem' just like the rest of us. You don't even have it in hand yet and are driving yourself nuts over it.
Thank you for finally stating the fact about this pinball product quality thing. "I don't like it either, but it is the reality of the hobby sadly". If only brado426 could to.
Quoted from brado426:You won the argument... great... whatever.... anything to make you go away. Pinball is not for you.
Oh reallyyyyy!
Quoted from Optimiser:Thank you for finally stating the fact about this pinball product quality thing. "I don't like it either, but it is the reality of the hobby sadly". If only brado426 could to.
Oh reallyyyyy!
When did I deny that there were problems? Like many others here have said, we expected problems and are happy to help PB work through them. My only gripe is with people who are whining and complaining in here without offering anything constructive.
So I've played my Alien all day today without any problems. 2.2F System Update is looking great!
Here's my latest settings and notes:
AUTO LAUNCH - NORMAL
TROUGH RELEASE - 50% WEAKER (PB gave me a test version 2.2F and now my trough release seems to be 100%... no problems all day. Nice!)
RIGHT FLIPPER - NORMAL
LEFT & RIGHT SLING - NORMAL (way better at NORMAL than -35%... I'd say decreasing the power here was a mistake)
DROP RESET - NORMAL (still no problems here since applying a little grease. No other modifications needed for my drop targets... all is good!)
UPPER RIGHT FLIPPER - NORMAL
LEFT AND RIGHT JETS - NORMAL (is decreasing this value a good idea?)
LEFT FLIPPER - NORMAL (replaced broken flipper with Pinball Life flipper... seems to be exactly the same, but works fine so far. PB is sending me replacement flippers with PB logo)
UPPER LEFT FLIPPER - 15% WEAKER
LEFT EJECT - 50% WEAKER (this has been perfect since I decreased the power... no wild balls at all)
CENTER MAGNET - NORMAL
LOCK POST - NORMAL
SCOOP KICKER - NORMAL
I'm currently looking forward to getting a Gen. 2 Xeno target that is on its way to me right now. My understanding is it makes it far less likely to make the ball hop over the magnet. Should be real nice!
As a side-note, coin lights now work in FREEPLAY mode.... woohoo! It's the little things in life.
What’s up with all these test versions? Now there is a 2.2F? Why don’t they just put the updates on the website and let everybody test them. Looks like I need to reach out to Cato and get me some of those Xeno targets as my magnet does not grab the ball probably 50% of the time.
Cuz that's how software works just in case they change something that bricks the CPU or causes other worse issues.
Quoted from s000m:Whilst I wait for the new topper...
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Ha look! Your cat wants to play Jonesy!
Quoted from Chalkey:Cuz that's how software works just in case they change something that bricks the CPU or causes other worse issues.
He's right ... I have had test versions where things have become worse, so they want to test it with a limited audience before potentially affecting a larger audience of people. This trough eject issue is a big improvement in my opinion. I haven't heard too many other people talk about it, but that fix appears to have been the root cause of at least a couple other issues I had seen. I'd say this game is just as reliable as my Funhouse now... and I thought that was pretty darn reliable.
Quoted from s000m:Whilst I wait for the new topper...
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I had a Hook and put a colored dmd in it. It really made a difference. Great coloring in animations.
Quoted from brado426:He's right ... I have had test versions where things have become worse, so they want to test it with a limited audience before potentially affecting a larger audience of people. This trough eject issue is a big improvement in my opinion. I haven't heard too many other people talk about it, but that fix appears to have been the root cause of at least a couple other issues I had seen. I'd say this game is just as reliable as my Funhouse now... and I thought that was pretty darn reliable.
What changed in this test version then since the last one? I have 2.2C and lowering the power to the trough and the muthur kick out worked for me.
Quoted from Lethal_Inc:What changed in this test version then since the last one? I have 2.2C and lowering the power to the trough and the muthur kick out worked for me.
Lowering the power of the trough worked for me too, but in rare cases, it would suddenly kick out too hard. I haven't seen this happen in 2.2F yet... but as with any intermittent issue, how long do you need to test to confirm the issue is resolved?
Has anyone had trouble qualifying the mission on the right Yutani inlane at times?
I sometimes have to hit the right drop ramp several times before the right Yutani lights up to Qualify mission. The left side works fine all the time.
Quoted from kciaccio:Has anyone had trouble qualifying the mission on the right Yutani inlane at times?
I sometimes have to hit the right drop ramp several times before the right Yutani lights up to Qualify mission. The left side works fine all the time.
Go into the test menu and check that opto switch and see if it is behaving strangely without the game running. It should be ACTIVE when there is no ball running through the ramp and INACTIVE when a ball is blocking the opto switch.
Does anyone have a video of that upper playfield magnet in action? Does it freeze the ball to setup for the ball lock shot?
Thanks
Quoted from Lethal_Inc:. Looks like I need to reach out to Cato and get me some of those Xeno targets as my magnet does not grab the ball probably 50% of the time.
You say you’re at 2.2c? You definitely want 2.2D which is available on the web site, this version helps tremendously with the magnet grab.
Quoted from Oneangrymo:Does anyone have a video of that upper playfield magnet in action? Does it freeze the ball to setup for the ball lock shot?
Thanks
I've had it grab the ball and set up for a lock shot but I've also had it throw the ball back at the flippers
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