Nothing to really do except put a fan on the flipper coil if playing that long. Alien is not the only machine that has this happen with king game play. I haven’t noticed it yet since I don’t play for multiple hours at a time.

Hows the build quality of the SV vs LV currently? I know there was some issues with the original SVs early on but have the newer ones improved?

Just played a tournament with Alien for 2.5 straight hours of constant play yesterday. Not a single issue. The new code is excellent.

I didn't tell a single person about the tongue working (nobody had seen it work before) and everyone was awestruck.

I had a very early run of the special version, it had quite a few issues. Mainly with the flipper mech and some board issues. The LV I have has very snappy flipper. The boards I think are the same but the updated code I think fixed alot of the issues with the early runs.

What is the LV attract mode in Settings? Is that the beacon?

I was going to post about the shaker on startup, but it looks like that one’s been addressed. Anyway, it’s awful. The game, though, is outstanding!

I had an SV with an April build date and then bought my friend's LV with a May/June build date. The LV just shoots better, felt more dialed in from the beginning. I didn't mention this because I thought I was crazy, but people kept saying the same thing to me. I love this game and if the LV is 100%, then the SV was maybe 80% with topper and light blades considered. SV with Pinstadiums would have been just fine for me really, but LV definitely feels like a step up even just from the way it feels when shooting it.

I have an LV that was delivered 3 weeks ago. My game plays just about perfect. The small issues I have experienced are as follows : Broken flipper spring (upper left), right side flippers wired backwards for dual stage, weapon light doesn't light, and spinners needed small adjustments. Nothing major; PB is definetely dialing it in.

So if you get one of the latest built SV’s is everything fixed or you would suggest just getting an LV? Looking for input because I’m considering buying one

If you can swing the cash buy the LV.
I think the added things make the upgrade worth it.

It plays attract mode video that matches the LV backbox art.

I don’t remember any info on this but is it OK to now connect all the target light cables ? I’m playing now and just got finished with installs ,cleaning etc but I noticed I must have plugged one in ,the target to the right of Zeno , and I see that one lighting up under the target and the light on the insert seems to be changing more colors than the others .Please let me know if anyone has info on this

I have been meaning to ask but keep forgetting. Was this supposed to come with a manual?

There is the online "manual"...
https://www.pinballbrothers.com/alien_old/operators-manual/

And the game play from the old machine...
https://pinballbrothers.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/80000707814-alien-game-rules

Maybe so but it was the only game that I had to pull due to poor flipper performance.

So reporting back..
All optos seem to be working fine. I went into the test switches and after each ball added the switches became active. I lossened the two screws on the hyperchamper so maybe that's it. Or could have just been a weird bug, who knows. Not exactly sure how you check the alignment, but everything seems pretty normal.

Yes. Plug them all in!

Thanks PB

Maybe. Looks terribly big!

I don’t remember any info on this but is it OK to now connect all the target light cables ? I’m playing now and just got finished with installs ,cleaning etc but I noticed I must have plugged one in ,the target to the right of Zeno , and I see that one lighting up under the target and the light on the insert seems to be changing more colors than the others .Please let me know if anyone has info on this
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Its a work in progress and has moved over to this scaled down version with mesh sheeting. Still improving tail whip mech and I started on the grabbing hand behind monitor. Will try to animate the fingers as well. But yes it was too big. But the only way to figure it out is to build something.

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The hand has cool potential. The tail still looks off IMHO.

I have the SV, and though I'm jealous of the LV owners, you can buy two LED light strips , fix them to the GI, and velcro them to the apron to get that playfield lighting with all the effects and everything. The way if flips and feels is exactly the same as the LV, as I've played them both. The LED strip is a $15 add-on and it'll light up the playfield just fine. You could also buy the apron mod for 650 and it does the same thing (which is what I did).

I'm more of a player than collector. I purchased a used SV for 8k and I'm delighted to have it. The 3-4k I saved buying a NIB LV is used towards other pins. I'd make the same decision all over again. My game is on location at The Pinball Co-op for everyone to play it. Putting an LV in that spot would make no difference. If you're only looking to play the game, SV is fine.

If I was a collector and I knew I was going to keep this game for 5-10 years, I'd splurge the extra on the LV. If I had extra money to burn, I'd also get the LV.

Why not buy used?

Great and I agree,I also added the becons from lermods for 175.00 you get a great effect,I have mine turn on when the airlock inserts lights.Cleland also did it and there is different light mode you can select! Love the lv but I like the stainless industrial look better.

Would love to see where to get the led strip to light up each side of the pf and where you plug it in. The beacons and extra lighting make the LV look nicer but for just over $200 you can make the SV look much better.

Installed the new firmware and code. On the first reboot I got a black screen

Sent in my logs.

Can you install a shaker motor on a standard/special version?

Prob the biggest thing holding me back are the non stop issues that some owners have that seem totally random.

billsfanmd I have an SV built May 22- I have not had any real problems at all- I get the Black screen on about every 10th startup. I assume it is something minor like a handshake issue with the HDMI cables. Other than that it has been a complete beast plus PB Support is second to none.

Just added the stasis mod last night. Looks pretty awesome with that little face hugger in there

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That looks awesome! I think I want that.

So anybody out there put a shaker in a standard? Is it doable

I don't believe the shaker is coded for SV. I really don't think it is even necessary though.

I kinda agree...I have an LV and with the sound turned up, the base feels like a shaker...only time I know it is shaking is when I feel it in my knees if they are touching the corners of the cabinet.

Yeah me too, lol. I saw it on a youtube or FB video well after I purchased the apron and I thought "Well, damn. I could have done that!"

That was a while ago. I've looked at so many videos since then, I can't find it.

I wouldn't want to play without the shaker! it's waaayy too integrated to leave out.

that IS cool...I like where mine is, and it gives me space for my animatronic sentry guns This is not his mod, it's from some Neca toy or something else..but blocks some light bleed at the front of the right artblade, and, well anyways either way is cool to me!

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To be clear our mod is NOT the Neca version nor any other version you can buy.

I had the same opinion on the SV at one point. But due to a unique set of circumstances, I ended up with an LV, and I'm happy I have it instead of the SV. Isn't it funny how that works?

Regarding the beacons, I have both the LV and apron add-on beacons (from Evolution Mods) on mine. The stock LV beacons go off during loader battle, self-destruct, and queens nest. These are musts for those modes, IMO however, they are not very bright, so I barely notice them going off while playing. I'd say they are more suited for entertaining the people watching you play. The add-ons are much brighter and light up the entire area, thereby adding significantly to the modes they go off on (primary multiballs). It's interesting how you have yours tied to the airlock inserts. I would suspect it would feel much more random when they go off with that setup.

!!IMO!!

The SV backbox is more appropriate. No shaker.

The LV has staged flippers. And shaker.

The game isnt going to shake to “We Will Rock You”…dont think it’s necessary. The bass is aboomin.

Kinks (98%) are worked out of the SV. Future updates will just separate the SV & LV difference. Fun. Just deep enough. Better theme integration than Stranger Things.

!!IMO!!

So which one would you suggest lv or sv

SV sitting here

Awesome thank you for the input; greatly appreciated

confused....so the stock LV beacons not to impressive? what are the add-ons? So if you have an LV you remove them and add these? Makes we want to get the SV and upgrade....ok just saw their site. Much better beacons....any more details. Again makes the SV a better value if you have to buy better beacons. However, looks like they are sold out anyway

In the end I don't think you can go wrong with either. However, I wouldnt based your decision based on the appropriate backglass. The lv of the queen alien is appropriate too as this game is alien and aliens imo. If you want to get super technical with the game you can find a bunch of things not truley accurate with artwork ect. For example the xenomorph in the game is a warrior alien (technically closer to the alien covenant xeno) and not big chap. Things like that.

What I personally like best about my LV is those lightest art blades. The SV is super dark (plays into the theme) but I like the added touched of the light. Honestly you can't go wrong with either one. But which ever one you can afford and or want more. I think both goes are great bangs for your buck. I do agree I dont think a game has better theme integration than this game.

Ordered a SV yesterday hopefully it’ll be here early next week. Any suggestions for things to lookout for when setting it up? (This is my first non Williams or Stern pin) and must have mods?

I've got a trouble ticket in with Pinball Brothers on this, but figured I'd throw this out there to see if anyone has an idea on how to get my non-booting SV working. Game was working fine at my Superbowl party and came back to turn it off once everyone left and the game was off. Later I found the left most fuse had popped out. I put it back in and while the game has power to some extent, it won't boot. Several lights on the boards under the playfield work for example board 6 D13 and D14, board 7 D13, D14, D16, D17 and D18 and sometimes board 1 D20. Also, the backbox, Red_Devils apron and tracker mods lights up as well.
Pinball Brothers has had me move each of the three fuses into a different socket and I've sent pictures of both boards in the controller box, but nothing looks burnt. All the connectors are plugged in and nothing else obvious looks wrong.

Can anyone confirm that is I get any of the widebody invisaglass (JJP, Stern or PDI) that it will fit on our Alien.

I just upgraded to 3.2. Did I see somewhere that you have to do something special for target light number five?

setup a ticket with pinball bros..give them your address and explain the 'missing target 5 wire'..you'll recieve one before you know it..and search this thread for that, and the pictures will show you exactly where to place it.

Not so much. I like that they're there and go off during loader battle and self-destruct, but they are underwhelming compared to the Evolution Mods variants. I didn't remove the LV beacons, I have them both installed.

For selfish reasons, I would much rather you buy the SV. It helps to keep the LVs more exclusive. But I also totally understand why someone would lean that way. I'm all for saving a couple of grand if there's not a huge "bang for the buck".

I just bought both. I don't care for the flashing lights, my SV came with them, but i've never plugged them in. Worked under them for enough years to not think they are fun.

5th target also lights on my sv.