Is it confirmed that they are going to be grouped? Didn't hear anything from them.
Quoted from john32:if they sell in groups of 5 I am not interested... I don't know why ...
Like cottonm4 said, they do it so you don't know who is bidding on what. Gets a newbie with auction fever to bid up stuff they aren't interested in. You might want that #BigHurt for $1200 but wouldn't pay anything for the rest of the lot. So you bid $1200 and drop out, now the winner has to pay $1205 for something that would have sold for $450 if not grouped with what you were interested in.
Cyclopes. $ 5200.00
Super Mario bros #2 $2200
Cue ball wizard $1900
Barb wire $1500
Globetrotter $800
Lost world $ 750.00
All sold on choice auction
Different buyers all
Quoted from cottonm4:Grand Lizard $1550
Gladiators. $1050
X-Files. $1750
Jokerz #2. $900
Hardbody. $700
This auction is done in what i think is called buyers choice format. You’re bidding on first choice of a lot. So people could be bidding each other up and be interested in two different games.
For example if funhouse and cyclone are in a lot and we are both bidding but I want cyclone and you want funhouse.. we would be bidding against each other, and don’t know it. This makes the bid prices artificially inflated in many cases. To each his own but I think this is a shady way to run an auction.
Just got home from the sale. Wow, what a crowd. Not a ton of pinheads, many just buying to have one at home.
What am I missing on Cyclopes at $5200? The cabinet is beat. What's that game normally worth?
Quoted from sparechange1974:Just got home from the sale. Wow, what a crowd. Not a ton of pinheads, many just buying to have one at home.
What am I missing on Cyclopes at $5200? The cabinet is beat. What's that game normally worth?
Rare.
4000 for a super duper nice exaple is last i know of.
I withdraw my previous bitches. The buyers choice style isn't nearly so obnoxious as it sounds. Lots of great super nice folks there. A few things went silly high, but there were a few great deals as well. Got a very nice big hurt for 1600.
Quoted from Mikedenton49:I withdraw my previous bitches. The buyers choice style isn't nearly so obnoxious as it sounds. Lots of great super nice folks there. A few things went silly high, but there were a few great deals as well. Got a very nice big hurt for 1600.
A really nice Big Hurt sold in Sacramento CL for $900 last month, and sat there for weeks before someone took it. $1600 seems high.
Anyone wanna sell a Comet? Didn’t get to go. Maybe next time. Shoot. Anyone know what they went for? I heard neither of them worked.
Quoted from PinMonk:A really nice Big Hurt sold in Sacramento CL for $900 last month, and sat there for weeks before someone took it. $1600 seems high.
Ones mans trash is another's treasure I guess. Been looking for one of these for over a year. 900 would be a steal especially if it was in this ones condition. Its not an awesome theme except for to someone who likes it. The game itself is fun as hell. I'm a satisfied buyer. So there is that.
porkcarrot if you're calling out a flipper, link to the ad so interested parties can make inquiries and eventually offer $300.
I wasn’t necessarily calling him out, he can do what he wants. I just laugh when I see it happen so quickly.
I had a side antique business for about 10 years. I have bought items at an auction then sold them again in the parking lot before I left the site. As far as prices goes, auctions can be crazy. I've seen stuff I was selling less than a mile away go for three times the price I was selling it for. I also have seen things goes for for pennies on the dollar. Just a matter of being in the right place at the right time.
I picked up a few games and some parts. Wish I had bid one more time on a couple of games. Here are the prices I jotted down (not counting parts machines). May not be 100% accurate. A few prices I was a little unsure about, so correct me if I'm wrong on these:
Cyclopes $5200
Breakshot $1400
Funhouse $3000
Jokerz! $1100; $900; $750
Comet $1100; $900
Cyclone $1850
Grand Lizard $1550
Star Wars Episode 1 $2350
Xenon $1400
X-Files $1750
Eight Ball Deluxe LE $2200
Lost World $750
Hardbody $700
Silverball Mania $850
Tee'd Off $1600; $2000; $1800
Mario Andretti $700
Barb Wire $1100; $1400
Gladiators $1200; $1050
Super Mario Bros. $2100; $2000
Spring Break $450
Big Hurt $1600; $1600
Cue Ball Wizard $950
Stargate $2050
Street Fighter 2 $1200
Harlem Globetrotters $800
Surf 'N Safari $1700
Quoted from Black_Knight:This is coming from the guy with the 'secret stash' Cluster-F**k sale from his garage? Talk about calling the kettle black.
My recollection of the other auction was that everyone who bought a machine was happy. The seller made a lot more money than he would have any other way. The auctioneer got paid. That sounds successful to me.
Stop bitching and play some pinball!
Sounds like everyone should be fairly happy overall. Seller did OK, auctioneer does OK when seller does OK because he takes a percentage of the gross sales (typically about 25% but that varies), and some decent hammer prices (both good deals and overpriced) so average looks decent overall. I was a little worried for the seller so I am glad he made out OK overall.
As I have said all along - "no dog in the race" - but likely not the best way to sell machines. However my main interest in posting here was some free bumps for the seller hoping for a better sale for the seller. I don't doubt Jay (the auctioneer) has good intentions but I know he wouldn't be my first choice if I was selling a group of machines. But he is 1500 miles away from me anyway so it really doesn't matter!
As far as my "secret stash" most of the machines from "Phase One" of my warehouse deals are added to our collection or long gone. I have a few sold that I am still waiting for the buyers to come grab them but otherwise everything I had for sale from that deal is long gone. I am currently trying to save as many "parts machines" as I can from a couple other deals. Once I finish up with that stuff and get my van back from the shop I'll be working on "Phase 2" of my Virginia deal. Those machines will likely be at the York Show for sale this Fall (if I can get everything picked up in time). Otherwise that stuff will go to Allentown in the Spring.
I don't get the "calling the kettle black" comment. My goal is always to save as many machines as possible and get them to people who will do something with them. If I didn't get this stuff Lloyd (coinopwarehouse) would be picking it up and loading it in containers to ship overseas - I am trying to keep the stuff in the US for my neighbors to enjoy. I never worry about the "haters" - I am more concerned about keeping my friends & regular customers happy. They get it even when others don't!
Just got home from a 9 hour drive picking up a "junk" machine that will help me save another machine. That is what it is all about to me. As always - save as many as possible and what isn't worth saving is made into parts to save other machines. Nothing more & nothing less.
Quoted from too-many-pins:As I have said all along - "no dog in the race" - but likely not the best way to sell machines. However my main interest in posting here was some free bumps for the seller hoping for a better sale for the seller. I don't doubt Jay (the auctioneer) has good intentions but I know he wouldn't be my first choice if I was selling a group of machines. But he is 1500 miles away from me anyway so it really doesn't matter!
What, pray tell, is the best way to sell a group of machines? The seller wanted to get good prices (good = as much as he could get), People came from all over. In four hours, the seller's pins were gone and he is sort of retired. I thought the auctioneer did a good job for the seller. I think the seller thought the auctioneer did a good job. The people who bought these machines were smiling.
So, if you have a "best" way to sell a group of machines fast and get decent money, let's hear it.
Quoted from cottonm4:What, pray tell, is the best way to sell a group of machines? The seller wanted to get good prices (good = as much as he could get), People came from all over. In four hours, the seller's pins were gone and he is sort of retired. I thought the auctioneer did a good job for the seller. I think the seller thought the auctioneer did a good job. The people who bought these machines were smiling.
So, if you have a "best" way to sell a group of machines fast and get decent money, let's hear it.
Why not just a regular auction where it is clear exactly what you are bidding on? This style benefits mainly the seller and auctioneer.
Star wars pin2k went for 2350 with the driver pcb and the light sabar loose on top of the playfield ouch.
I ended up with the Xenon for $1400. Did I pay too much? Probably. Cab is decent and backglass is perfect. Game works as it should though there were a couple of "fixes" that I will need to re-fix.
Prices might have been a little high overall but mostly inline with reality. The pin section of the auction was done in about an hour and a half. Lots of remote bidding.
Quoted from PinMonk:A really nice Big Hurt sold in Sacramento CL for $900 last month, and sat there for weeks before someone took it. $1600 seems high.
Factor in $400.00 shipping from Cali to the buyer's home in Oklahoma and $900.00 turns into $1300.00. And then you don't know what will be coming of of the truck. And you always have the unquantifiable hassle factors. The buyer, as he states, is happy and you weren't here so why are you worrying about it?
Quoted from Mikedenton49:Ones mans trash is another's treasure I guess. Been looking for one of these for over a year. 900 would be a steal especially if it was in this ones condition. Its not an awesome theme except for to someone who likes it. The game itself is fun as hell. I'm a satisfied buyer. So there is that.
That Big Hurt appeared to be in great shape and played well. While the theme doesn’t do anything for me, it’s a lot of pin for the money.
Glad I did not go or bid remote.
I think based on prices, this seller did very well. A few below market avg but reality is that it could have been poor condition.
The vast majority went way higher then I would have bid.
Kinda proves what I've expected all along. The flow of too many new machines into the pipeline has driven down the auction prices of used pins. Expect it to follow suit with your CL sellers also. Used right now is just too damn expensive. But not for long!
Quoted from Chicoman:Kinda proves what I've expected all along. The flow of too many new machines into the pipeline has driven down the auction prices of used pins. Expect it to follow suit with your CL sellers also. Used right now is just too damn expensive. But not for long!
Quoted from Chicoman:Kinda proves what I've expected all along. The flow of too many new machines into the pipeline has driven down the auction prices of used pins. Expect it to follow suit with your CL sellers also. Used right now is just too damn expensive. But not for long!
curious which of these games seem low to you?
Most seem high to me personally.
Quoted from Whysnow:Glad I did not go or bid remote.
I think based on prices, this seller did very well. A few below market avg but reality is that it could have been poor condition.
The vast majority went way higher then I would have bid.
This auction was probably not worth driving more than a few hours or so. That being said I thought it was fine and prices reflected condition (in most cases). Definitely no steals here but I think it was pretty fair. The group bidding was not my favorite but it could have been worse.
Prices seemed decent, but not great, maybe even overpriced, especially for many games that don't even power up?
Auction fever is real, and most people wind up bidding/offering far more than they would in a one-on-one deal! There's the "I can't go home empty-handed" motivation, also the competitive need to "win" the auction. Bidders will often bid over the limits they set for themselves before the auction. Ask me how I know these things?
Some of the best advise my pappy ever gave me was "never be emotionally attached during a negotiation" - hard advise to follow at the auction sometimes.
Quoted from PinPilot:Prices seemed decent, but not great, maybe even overpriced, especially for many games that don't even power up?
Auction fever is real, and most people wind up bidding far more than they would offer in a one-on-one deal. They also feel the need to "win" the auction, and go over the limits they set for themselves before the auction. Ask me how I know these things?
Some of the best advise my pappy ever gave me was "never be emotionally attached during a negotiation" - hard advise to follow at the auction sometimes.
I think some of these auctions also have the "potted in" feeling.
If you already drove 3hrs to the auction with the idea of getting a game, had high hopes of finding a deal, and got outbid on the first game you went for; then people want to go home with something. Already wasted the day and 6hr RT travel time, so you want to have a new game for the already committed effort.
Quoted from Whysnow:I think some of these auctions also have the "potted in" feeling.
If you already drove 3hrs to the auction with the idea of getting a game, had high hopes of finding a deal, and got outbid on the first game you went for; then people want to go home with something. Already wasted the day and 6hr RT travel time, so you want to have a new game for the already committed effort.
No doubt! I was editing my comment to add this fact while you were pointing it out!
One of the things I enjoyed about the auction was meeting and talking with other pinball enthusiasts. In the first batch of five machines, there was a collective gasp when the high bidder selected an Eight Ball Deluxe over the perceived front runner, Mario Brothers. Who knows what another guy’s grail pin might be? It was a drizzly, overcast day and I had nothing else planned. I must say that I thouroughly enjoyed my self.
Quoted from ViperJelly:I ended up with the Xenon for $1400. Did I pay too much? Probably. Cab is decent and backglass is perfect. Game works as it should though there were a couple of "fixes" that I will need to re-fix.
Prices might have been a little high overall but mostly inline with reality. The pin section of the auction was done in about an hour and a half. Lots of remote bidding.
Was thinking about stopping there on my way back through from Texas yesterday, but glad I did not....I would have bid that Xenon up for you.....lol
Quoted from too-many-pins:Talk about the wrong way to do an auction! If this sale is a flop for the seller I blame the auctioneer at this point. Pinsider's know he has an account and could have posted requested information by now. Originally I thought seller might be part of the problem but it is very apparent this auctioneer is clueless as to how to sell pinball machines.
Best of luck to all! I think seller is going to need some.
Cyclopes sold for $5200...pretty sure the seller did just fine. lmfao...there were a lot of pins that sold too high IMO, but that one was on another planet.
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