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Pinball and Divorce


By alienpoker

73 days ago



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  • Latest reply 69 days ago by LTG
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    “Would you keep all your games during a divorce?”

    • Yeah. No question. They’re mine. 136 votes
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    #101 71 days ago
    Quoted from underlord:

    I would burn the house down with everything in it, grab my bug out bag and hit the road.

    Lol...

    #102 71 days ago

    My wife is one of the most amazing people I know. I am 100% sure if divorce ever did happen she wouldn't be all over me about the pins, either physically or cash value, just not who she is. I am pretty sure I would be focused on other things as well.

    #103 71 days ago
    Quoted from paul_8788:

    ...I am 100% sure if divorce ever did happen she wouldn't be all over me about the pins, either physically or cash value, just not who she is....

    I'd like to know the % of people that said this before all the lawyering up happens?

    #104 71 days ago
    Quoted from paul_8788:

    My wife is one of the most amazing people I know. I am 100% sure if divorce ever did happen she wouldn't be all over me about the pins, either physically or cash value, just not who she is. I am pretty sure I would be focused on other things as well.

    I believe that about my wife too. Unfortunately, I already went through two divorces. They didn't hurt me bad because I am a scrappy fighter when I have to be, and with the first divorce I had a good and scrappy lawyer. So I guess my point is never say never. Divorce brings out the worst in people and those you thought would never stoop to a certain level end up surprising you by stooping even lower.

    #105 71 days ago
    Quoted from Charlemagne1987:

    Divorce brings out the worst in people and those you thought would never stoop to a certain level end up surprising you by stooping even lower.

    Truer words were never written. I represented my brother in his first divorce--my one and only family law case. I DESTROYED her in court and got a VERY good result for my brother, but not before she tried to ruin his career by falsely accusing him of downloading child pornography, stealing people's identities, and physically abusing her. She was eventually charged with filing a false police report, but the state dropped it since it was her first offense.

    #106 71 days ago
    Quoted from SeaLawyer:

    Truer words were never written. I represented my brother in his first divorce--my one and only family law case. I DESTROYED her in court and got a VERY good result for my brother, but not before she tried to ruin his career by falsely accusing him of downloading child pornography, stealing people's identities, and physically abusing her. She was eventually charged with filing a false police report, but the state dropped it since it was her first offense.

    That's just plain evil. I'm so glad you prevailed, but I don't think the state should've dropped the case against her. Accusations like that can ruin a person's life.

    #107 71 days ago

    I have never been divorced and never want to be. I do have a lawyer and I once was in a situation. I told him to try and work a fair deal for everyone. He told me he is hired to be my cock. Let him handle the negotiations because nice guys always get screwed. I imagine in a divorce if your spouses lawyer knows you love your pinballs he will use them against you as leverage. So while you think your wife is 100% cool with you keeping your pins I believe her lawyer is 100% going to use them to screw you.

    #108 71 days ago
    Quoted from Charlemagne1987:

    That's just plain evil. I'm so glad you prevailed, but I don't think the state should've dropped the case against her. Accusations like that can ruin a person's life.

    Agreed! He was (and still is) active duty Navy, which means Family Advocacy gets involved. If FAP substantiates, your career is over, and the only way to clear your name is to be acquitted at court-martial or convince FAP they're wrong (which almost never happens). His command fully supported him, so he was never going to court-martial. As a former active duty JAG, I dealt with FAP from both sides (command and service member). They're mostly zealots who ALWAYS believe the woman, no matter what. My brother got lucky to be investigated by the one reasonable FAP counselor in the Navy who quickly determined that he was telling the truth, and his wife was insane.

    #109 71 days ago
    Quoted from SeaLawyer:

    Agreed! He was (and still is) active duty Navy, which means Family Advocacy gets involved. If FAP substantiates, your career is over, and the only way to clear your name is to be acquitted at court-martial or convince FAP they're wrong (which almost never happens). His command fully supported him, so he was never going to court-martial. As a former active duty JAG, I dealt with FAP from both sides (command and service member). They're mostly zealots who ALWAYS believe the woman, no matter what. My brother got lucky to be investigated by the one reasonable FAP counselor in the Navy who quickly determined that he was telling the truth, and his wife was insane.

    Wow! Your bro was lucky to dodge that crazy bullet.

    #110 71 days ago
    Quoted from SeaLawyer:

    She was eventually charged with filing a false police report, but the state dropped it since it was her first offense.

    AKA The Pu**y Pass.
    I never saw a dime in child support, if she would have been a man first lose license then jail.
    First wife, I got full custody and she blew out of town never to be heard from again.

    #111 71 days ago
    Quoted from SeaLawyer:

    ....but not before she tried to ruin his career by falsely accusing him of downloading child pornography, stealing people's identities, and physically abusing her. She was eventually charged with filing a false police report, but the state dropped it since it was her first offense.

    This RIGHT HERE is one of the major things wrong with the justice system.

    Woman: "I purposefully and intentionally tried to kill him, your honor. Been planning it for years with a sound mind just to take everything he owns and earned."

    Judge: "Oh, it's ok, dear. We all have bad days and make mistakes."

    Man: "Your honor, I accidentally brushed her shoulder while trying to jump in front of an oncoming bus going 80 mph to save a child that wasn't mine."

    Judge: "Well boys, looks like we have ourselves a rapist. Case closed"

    #112 71 days ago
    Quoted from SeaLawyer:

    My first wife wouldn't allow me to buy the one pin I wanted -- TAF.

    LOL!
    The day any woman told me I am not allowed would be the day she would go down the road.
    Women are like boats, much cheaper to rent.

    #113 71 days ago
    Quoted from NPO:

    This RIGHT HERE is one of the major things wrong with the justice system.
    Woman: "I purposefully and intentionally tried to kill him, your honor. Been planning it for years with a sound mind just to take everything he owns and earned."
    Judge: "Oh, it's ok, dear. We all have bad days and make mistakes."
    Man: "Your honor, I accidentally brushed her shoulder while trying to jump in front of an oncoming bus going 80 mph to save a child that wasn't mine."
    Judge: "Well boys, looks like we have ourselves a rapist. Case closed"

    Agreed. The family law system, especially, is extremely biased against men. I was PISSED when the state dropped the charges, but I still used it to BURY her in court. Thankfully, they had no kids. She was asking for $4K/month PERMANENT alimony and attorney's fees. She got nothing.

    #114 71 days ago
    Quoted from SeaLawyer:

    Agreed. The family law system, especially, is extremely biased against men. I was PISSED when the state dropped the charges, but I still used it to BURY her in court. Thankfully, they had no kids. She was asking for $4K/month PERMANENT alimony and attorney's fees. She got nothing.

    Typical. They know they've got the man, so they go for everything when they're entitled to nothing.

    Marriage is one of the biggest traps for "successful" men - those with solid careers, zero debts, pension coming, medical care, etc. Those who enter it and find out they have a bloodthirsty dependapotamus ready to take everything in divorce court is a scary moment.

    Not saying marriage is a complete waste of time. The best relationships are founded on solid friendships. Most marriages today are based on knowing someone 1 day to about 3 months and then it's "time to settle down", and they don't even know things like favorite hobbies, interests, pet peeves, etc.

    Quoted from tracelifter:

    LOL!
    The day any woman told me I am not allowed would be the day she would go down the road.
    Women are like boats, much cheaper to rent.

    Most men become submissive as soon as they're married. Instead of being confident and active, they become passive cucks. NOT ALL. Most.

    It's "happy spouse, happy house". Those that disagree and say it's "Happy wife, easy/happy life" need to either stand up for themselves and realize THEY are important too, or continue to suffer and wait for the nearly inevitable divorce.

    #115 71 days ago
    Quoted from NPO:

    bloodthirsty dependapotamus

    Hahaha!! You must be military or former military! We use that term all the time!

    My 2nd wife I knew for 14 months before we got married. I thought that was enough at our ages (then 36 and 44), but I was wrong. It was a total bait and switch. But for my kids and her forcing me to choose between her and them, I'd have stayed with her a bit longer because she was a TOTAL SMOKESHOW... But no matter how amazing the sex was (top 1%), I wasn't sacrificing my children.

    IF I ever get re-married, it will be to someone I've known for YEARS AND YEARS... AND there'll be an ironclad pre-nup.

    #116 71 days ago
    Quoted from SeaLawyer:

    she was a TOTAL SMOKESHOW... But no matter how amazing the sex was (top 1%)

    Ha! As Rodney Dangerfield said, "Marry a good cook. The sex will wear off, but you'll always be hungry."

    #117 71 days ago
    Quoted from SeaLawyer:

    Hahaha!! You must be military or former military! We use that term all the time!
    My 2nd wife I knew for 14 months before we got married. I thought that was enough at our ages (then 36 and 44), but I was wrong. It was a total bait and switch. But for my kids and her forcing me to choose between her and them, I'd have stayed with her a bit longer because she was a TOTAL SMOKESHOW... But no matter how amazing the sex was (top 1%), I wasn't sacrificing my children.
    IF I ever get re-married, it will be to someone I've known for YEARS AND YEARS... AND there'll be an ironclad pre-nup.

    AD, into my 12th year now : ). We also call them "BX Battlecruisers" or "Tricareatops".

    Sex is one of the biggest and only weapons a woman brings to the table. The things men will do for that opportunity for maybe ...just maybe...an opportunity to go to bed with someone.

    Something I ask in my head when I first meet a woman: "Other than your looks, what do you bring to the table? How do we have a mutualistic relationship?" and when the vibe is there and we're having a good time and we are into one another, I'll flat out ask it to her face. It lets her know you are saying without being a total jerk: "Yeah, you look good. What else you got? Tell me you have more than that...."

    Good on you for standing up for your kids. Most "men" are great at impregnation and HORRIFIC failures at following through with responsibility they caused once a pregnancy occurs.

    #118 71 days ago
    Quoted from SeaLawyer:

    Agreed. The family law system, especially, is extremely biased against men. I was PISSED when the state dropped the charges, but I still used it to BURY her in court. Thankfully, they had no kids. She was asking for $4K/month PERMANENT alimony and attorney's fees. She got nothing.

    Even if she loses there are plenty of programs that will provide sponsorship for her attorney fees. So even if you WIN you LOSE cause of the fees.

    #119 71 days ago

    I raised my standards after the first wife who made the cover of Negligent Mother Magazine.
    No dating losers, Capt. Savahoe left the building.
    Second wife was a multi millionaire so divorce would have cost her a lot here in Ca. and I knew she didn't want me for my money.

    #120 71 days ago

    My wife is cool with my pinball hobby, plays occasionally (including in the local fun league) and has even bought me two games, one a re-import and one a NIB, both total surprises! Sometimes I'll hear her talking to her friends about it and say something like "he could have a lot worse hobbies" or "at least he's home most the time doing this". So guys if your GF, fiance, etc. starts to give you crap about your pinball hobby just start going to strip bars or hanging out all night at bars and maybe she'll come around to like your pinball hobby after all.

    #121 70 days ago

    First marriage: discovered wife was in affair after a year. Divorced. (actually had been going on about the time i proposed)

    Second marriage: cheater wife came crawling back. Did counseling. We "dated" for 1.5 years and remarried. Affair started again. Divorce #2.

    Never again.

    At some point i got the "well you pay so much attention to pinball and not me" excuse, so I guess my post is pertinent to the thread.

    #122 70 days ago

    Attached is value of a prenup in 2020.

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    #123 70 days ago
    Quoted from Blackbeard:

    Second marriage: cheater wife came crawling back.

    My ex showed up a half year after the divorce and wanted to talk. I asked, "about what ?". She said it wasn't about getting back together. I said there isn't no getting back together. She asked, "Why? " . I said, "I don't sleep with no whore".

    Conversation went down hill after that.

    LTG : )

    #124 70 days ago
    Quoted from pinballplusMN:

    Attached is value of a prenup in 2020.
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    A quick google search even finds the TP may have more value.

    Even from Forbes

    1) Fraudulent due to undervalued assets (well, that can be very subjective)

    2) Signed under duress, coercion, or without mental capacity. So if one person asks the other to sign it is that coercion?

    3) Paperwork not properly filed

    4) One of the parties signed without "proper" legal representation

    5) Too lopsided or ridiculous provisions

    All of these are so subjective and judges do have the power to throw them out.

    Last time my father got married I asked him if he got prenup. He said no because she makes the same amount of money he does. Well, 3 years into the marriage she sold her business and has/had 0 income. Actually he put off retirement to pay off property she was underwater in.

    #125 70 days ago

    Sorry to hear that....whoever thought you'd need a pre-nup calling out your pins to protect your collection??

    #126 70 days ago

    A lot of really healthy venting in This thread!

    #127 70 days ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    I said, "I don't sleep with no whore".

    Hmmm, isn't that a double negative? What's the going rate in MN tbese days?

    #128 70 days ago
    Quoted from jaytrem:

    Hmmm, isn't that a double negative? What's the going rate in MN tbese days?

    My ex, the one that had a fiancee the last two years of my marriage that I didn't know about until a month after the divorce. Because he contacted me because she'd been cheating on him too. I would imagine back then pretty cheap.

    Now that she's married to a rich guy and living out east, no idea. Probably a higher going rate now.

    My post did get me a down vote though.

    LTG : )

    #129 70 days ago
    Quoted from herbertbsharp:

    Damn straight I'm keepin' my machines! Got the house too. And one better, I then knocked half the 2nd floor out of the family room and turned the whole thing into an arcade with a loft. Game over, Herb Sharp wins.
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    I expect nothing less from Charles Bronson

    #130 70 days ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    My post did get me a down vote though.

    Heaven forbid you have some standards. Good for you and take my upvote.

    I'd rather take a few downvotes than to go through what you and some of these folks have gone through.

    #131 70 days ago
    Quoted from Charlemagne1987:

    I believe that about my wife too. Unfortunately, I already went through two divorces. They didn't hurt me bad because I am a scrappy fighter when I have to be, and with the first divorce I had a good and scrappy lawyer. So I guess my point is never say never. Divorce brings out the worst in people and those you thought would never stoop to a certain level end up surprising you by stooping even lower.

    Anything is possible. Been together for 28 years though, so any major change in personality like that would have me thinking brain tumors.

    #132 70 days ago
    Quoted from paul_8788:

    Anything is possible. Been together for 28 years though, so any major change in personality like that would have me thinking brain tumors.

    Actually I'm glad you brought this up. This can be seen as a joke to some people but it is not uncommon for pressure on the brain from tumor or other things to cause changes such as mood and personality and can be life saving if brought up. I know some people would be scared to confront someone about this (admittedly myself included), especially if the personality becomes combative and defensive, but if you can get this diagnosed, you can save a life and improve others (now that last part was a joke -- kind of).

    #133 70 days ago

    Okay I finally have a "Pinball and Divorce" story.

    About 3 years ago I picked this up from a coworker because he was still dealing with fallout from an ex-wife years later, needed to sell his home to move closer to his ex due to court order and where their child was attending school, needed to sell things, and regrettably one of his favorite pins was on that list. I won't tell you what I paid for it but I'd take 15 of these for the price especially with the PF looking perfect and no cabinet fade. Matching boards.

    He is no longer with us but was always on the grind with work and refused to give up. He said it best; "I'm a single father AND a single mother" as he went clothes shopping for his little daughter. He wanted the best for her.

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    #134 70 days ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    "I don't sleep with no whore".

    I’ve decided that in my next life I’m going to sleep with as many whores as possible until my pecker falls off...then the life after that will be back to a nerd in pinball

    #135 70 days ago
    Quoted from tracelifter:

    LOL!
    The day any woman told me I am not allowed would be the day she would go down the road.
    Women are like boats, much cheaper to rent.

    Better to ask forgiveness than permission. Best to tell them to just shut up.

    #136 70 days ago

    I’m separated and it was sort of contentious, but really, this idea of “battle ax ex-wife” is such a tired trope. If she was such a piece of crap why did you marry her in the first place? This is the mother of your children, if you have them. Says more about you and your choices I should think.

    I can understand being pissed about dealing with lawyers - mine has cost me five figures so far and it’s not done - but she’s not evil, and we are sharing custody and raising a child, so it’s important to remember they are people just like you, not some lame stereotype of a nagging bitch. I wouldn’t have been with someone like that in the first place.

    #137 70 days ago
    Quoted from herbertbsharp:

    Damn straight I'm keepin' my machines! Got the house too. And one better, I then knocked half the 2nd floor out of the family room and turned the whole thing into an arcade with a loft. Game over, Herb Sharp wins.

    Wow.... we need a video of that arcade.

    #138 70 days ago
    Quoted from jwilson:

    I’m separated and it was sort of contentious, but really, this idea of “battle ax ex-wife” is such a tired trope. If she was such a piece of crap why did you marry her in the first place?

    Because people put on some really good "masks" at first, and people tend to overlook MAJOR red flags "in the name of love".

    That's why.

    #139 70 days ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    My ex showed up a half year after the divorce and wanted to talk. I asked, "about what ?". She said it wasn't about getting back together. I said there isn't no getting back together. She asked, "Why? " . I said, "I don't sleep with no whore".
    Conversation went down hill after that.
    LTG : )

    Damn, Lloyd. You're even cooler than I thought. P.s. thanks for pointing me in the right direction on my MMR last week. It was the 6.3A fuse by the service outlet that knocked out all the coils.

    #140 70 days ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    My post did get me a down vote though.
    LTG : )

    I apologize for and removed my inappropriate comment regarding the downvote.

    #141 70 days ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    I said, "I don't sleep with no whore".

    #142 70 days ago

    I was so glad to get my exwife out of my life. Counting the beers I drink and watching, judging my every decision. I’ve met her new husband over the years, what a pushover.

    #143 70 days ago

    Am i the only one that enjoys life being alone/single? I have had a gf for over 3 years now. But man, i just like being alone for the most part.

    #144 70 days ago
    Quoted from Blackbeard:

    Am i the only one that enjoys life being alone/single? I have had a gf for over 3 years now. But man, i just like being alone for the most part.

    I'm in that club. Early 50's & never married, by choice, but not saying I never would. Funny thing is, I get a lot of attention from younger women these days. Sometimes as young as half my age, for whatever reason. (I'm not wealthy.)

    Check out "Better Bachelor" on YouTube. The guy makes a lot of sense about the dating landscape these days & why more men are opting out of marriage. It's not just the divorce rate & threat of losing half of your stuff, although that's certainly a factor.

    #145 70 days ago

    I apologize for and removed my inappropriate comment regarding the downvote.

    #146 70 days ago
    Quoted from SPeD66:

    The guy makes a lot of sense about the dating landscape these days & why more men are opting out of marriage. It's not just the divorce rate & threat of losing half of your stuff, although that's certainly a factor.

    The risk/reward ratio is way out of whack.

    Courts are stacked against men, police are stacked against men, etc. Women say they want equality.. bullshit. The pussy pass benefits are too good to give up.

    #147 70 days ago
    Quoted from Gorgar666:

    what a pushover.

    AKA a cuck.
    They deserve each other.

    #148 70 days ago
    Quoted from Gorgar666:

    I was so glad to get my exwife out of my life. Counting the beers I drink and watching, judging my every decision. I’ve met her new husband over the years, what a pushover.

    This reminds me of the movie "Old School". Watching, judging ... look at the baby! .... counting beers... that is a new one

    #149 70 days ago
    Quoted from ttown:

    This reminds me of the movie "Old School". Watching, judging ... look at the baby! .... counting beers... that is a new one

    My wife counts my beers all the time. I usually only drink on my weekends. As soon as she knows I’ve had more than two, she eyes me like a hawk. She yells at me, calls me an alcoholic and her famous line, “Do you know You’re not a social drinker, you have a problem.” I had 12 problems yesterday, if anyone else wants to count.

    #150 70 days ago
    Quoted from Frippertron:

    My wife counts my beers all the time. I usually only drink on my weekends. As soon as she knows I’ve had more than two, she eyes me like a hawk. She yells at me, calls me an alcoholic and her famous line, “Do you know You’re not a social drinker, you have a problem.” I had 12 problems yesterday, if anyone else wants to count.

    So can we get some sort of preview of your collection prior to the sale?.. OMG. . If you lived closer you could drink beers here and call it social.

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