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Quoted from Gorgar123:After reading about it a few posts up, I stumbled upon this at Costco and grabbed a bottle. Thanks for the tip, I like it a lot.[quoted image]
Collect the 5 different keys!
Quoted from Gorgar123:After reading about it a few posts up, I stumbled upon this at Costco and grabbed a bottle. Thanks for the tip, I like it a lot.[quoted image]
I admit I'm a sucker for a cool bottle! Will have to grab that one, they have it at my local Total Wine.
Quoted from tjprice222:I have had zero success finding Blade and Bow here in Saint Louis. If anyone comes across some, let me know.
Quoted from Gorgar123:After reading about it a few posts up, I stumbled upon this at Costco and grabbed a bottle. Thanks for the tip, I like it a lot.[quoted image]
Quoted from Reality_Studio:I admit I'm a sucker for a cool bottle! Will have to grab that one, they have it at my local Total Wine.
Jeez guys. Thanks for rubbing it in! Any Saint Louis guys know where I can pick up some of that Rock Hill Farms stuff Chisox keeps mentioning??
Quoted from tjprice222:Jeez guys. Thanks for rubbing it in! Any Saint Louis guys know where I can pick up some of that Rock Hill Farms stuff chisox keeps mentioning??
Rock hill farms is very hard to come by, the last bottle I scored was like $90
Quoted from PinDeLaPin:I had to prioritize what went inside.
That is a really nice looking ice box.
Quoted from tjprice222:Jeez guys. Thanks for rubbing it in! Any Saint Louis guys know where I can pick up some of that Rock Hill Farms stuff chisox keeps mentioning??
Very hard to come by. It just released a few weeks ago around here, so I guess keep trying. Ask the manager wherever you go if they ever stock it-some places never even get it.
Good luck
Quoted from SirScott:Has anyone tried it? Thought for $23 that it was worth a shot.
Have not tried it or even seen it but with an 8 year age statement for $23 I would have bought it as well.
Quoted from Jgel:Have not tried it or even seen it but with an 8 year age statement for $23 I would have bought it as well.
No doubt! I'm sure it isn't a single but probably a blend but either way if it is labeled as an 8yr then 8yr would be the youngest of the blend. So for $23 it's a no brainer cause i've bought stuff that was 4x that amount that should have been labeled as lawnmower fuel and not bourbon cause it was nasty as hell.
Quoted from PrinzFred:I just had this one in Peru of all places. In the plastic bottle it smelled a bit like Playfield cleaner (and perhaps should be used that way sober). But the woman I was with made some mean mixed drinks with it.[quoted image]
Damn! Hope you checked the born on date before consuming that stuff.
Quoted from PrinzFred:I just had this one in Peru of all places. In the plastic bottle it smelled a bit like Playfield cleaner (and perhaps should be used that way sober). But the woman I was with made some mean mixed drinks with it.[quoted image]
My dad was a "Kentucky Gentleman" man... he also liked "Dewer's and Cutty Sark Scotch" so I'm no stranger to that stuff...
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Boy i'll say! Looks delicious
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Never had the rabbit hole but you sure can't go wrong with the eagle rare
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Excellent choices. Both are super smooth.
Quoted from PinDeLaPin:Went ahead and picked this one up yesterday, didn't get a chance to sample it yet.[quoted image]
Have wanted to try that one, let us know what you think!
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J Henry & Sons is WELL worth the price of admission!
Seriously! A hidden gem and once people outside of the region get a taste, expect it to evaporate quickly.
Quoted from Whysnow:J Henry & Sons is WELL worth the price of admission!
Seriously! A hidden gem and once people outside of the region get a taste, expect it to evaporate quickly.
I've had that one a few times now... my local Costco carries that one.
Quoted from PinDeLaPin:Went ahead and picked this one up yesterday, didn't get a chance to sample it yet.[quoted image]
It's a sleeper for sure. Checks the right boxes. Aged stated 7 years, 107 proof, small batched, always available. Doesn't really exhibit any of the "Beam Funk".
When it's on sale for $39, I grab one for a change of pace. The normal $49 price point, that it has sat at for years, I always felt hurt its popularity because there were so many offerings that checked those same boxes in the $20-$25 range (OWA, WT101, etc.), but now that many of them are gone/had age statements removed/moved up in price (looking at you, OWA), that $49 price isn't such a hard pill to swallow anymore.
I'm usually not a huge Beam profile fan, but I've been on an OGD/JB Bonded kick for a couple weeks (not on the same level as Baker's, but pretty close); they are really good straight/on the rocks; and I don't feel guilty mixing them with a splash of ginger or diet coke. I fear that before long, most of the bonded varieties will be pulled (ala Heaven Hill BIB 6 year for $13), and rereleased a short time later as "premium" offerings at much higher price points (Heaven Hill BIB "7 Year age stated") for $40). Can't blame them for doing it though, if the market will bare it...
Quoted from Grandnational007:It's a sleeper for sure. Checks the right boxes. Aged stated 7 years, 107 proof, small batched, always available. Doesn't really exhibit any of the "Beam Funk".
When it's on sale for $39, I grab one for a change of pace. The normal $49 price point, that it has sat at for years, I always felt hurt its popularity because there were so many offerings that checked those same boxes in the $20-$25 range (OWA, WT101, etc.), but now that many of them are gone/had age statements removed/moved up in price (looking at you, OWA), that $49 price isn't such a hard pill to swallow anymore.
I'm usually not a huge Beam profile fan, but I've been on an OGD/JB Bonded kick for a couple weeks (not on the same level as Baker's, but pretty close); they are really good straight/on the rocks; and I don't feel guilty mixing them with a splash of ginger or diet coke. I fear that before long, most of the bonded varieties will be pulled (ala Heaven Hill BIB 6 year for $13), and rereleased a short time later as "premium" offerings at much higher price points (Heaven Hill BIB "7 Year age stated") for $40). Can't blame them for doing it though, if the market will bare it...
I'm usually more inclined to pay more when a bottle has an age statement. That way I at least know what I am getting good or bad. I feel like companies that intentionally don't put an age statement on know that they're shortchanging their consumers. By hiding behind No age statement it just legitimizes that fact. Companies that do post age statements do so front and center and prominent for a reason.
Quoted from PinDeLaPin:I'm usually more inclined to pay more when a bottle has an age statement. Companies that do post age statements do so front and center and prominent for a reason.
I could not agree with this more. 100% feel the same way.
Guys, what is your go-to Rye? I have been drinking the Bullet Rye and really like the taste. I have been a wheater but have started to get into Rye because of Old Fashions. Then from Olf Fashions to straight Rye. I can't get anything rare here in PA but what are your favs of the easy to find brands?
Quoted from Jgel:Guys, what is your go-to Rye? I have been drinking the Bullet Rye and really like the taste. I have been a wheater but have started to get into Rye because of Old Fashions. Then from Olf Fashions to straight Rye. I can't get anything rare here in PA but what are your favs of the easy to find brands?
Rye whiskey is not my favorite however if you stick it in front of me I will choke it down. My limited experience with it is you get what you pay for and stay away from the cheap stuff because it's awful. The one that I have had that I like the best is the Willett Rye I could drink that for sure but its hard to come by around me.
Michter's US-1 Rye.
All of Michter's ryes are excellent, a little pricey, but huge maple syrup bombs.
Rittenhouse is excellent too, and much cheaper.
Quoted from PinDeLaPin:The one that I have had that I like the best is the Willett Rye I could drink that for sure but its hard to come by around me.
I love almost anything Willett puts out. But....you can't get it in PA.
Quoted from fuseholder:Templeton Rye is decent.
Looks like this is available. The 4 year is $38 and the 6 year is $47.
Quoted from Grandnational007:Rittenhouse is excellent too, and much cheaper.
The BIB is only $28. Might be worth a shot at that price point.
Quoted from PinDeLaPin:I'm usually more inclined to pay more when a bottle has an age statement. That way I at least know what I am getting good or bad. I feel like companies that intentionally don't put an age statement on know that they're shortchanging their consumers. By hiding behind No age statement it just legitimizes that fact. Companies that do post age statements do so front and center and prominent for a reason.
I absolutely prefer age stated to non.
That said, barrels can develop faster than others. Even sitting literally next to each other in the same rickhouse. From barrels coopered on the same day. From the same fall of trees.
If you look at traditional brands, many were developed specifically because of this. Stuff that developed a little too soon was spun into lesser aged/cheaper offerings. Eagle Rare and Buffalo Trace currently for example. Barrels that developed the appropriate flavor profile too soon, but couldn't be stated as 10 years, are dumped as/with Buffalo Trace. Those that make it the full 10 within the understood profile, are dumped as ER10. Barrels that develop too fast or have off profiles are dumped as Benchmark No. 8.
Technically, "small batch" isn't a legal term...
Define a "small batch". Is it two barrels? 100? 10,000? I guess any vatting of barrels is considered "small batch" compared to the sheer batch size that the likes of Jack Daniels Old No. 7 or Jim Beam White Label must be.
I'd also be willing to bet that it is distilled in Indiana (MGP Juice). No idea where it's bottled. I don't think I have ever seen a bottle labeled "made in", but I could be wrong.
Quoted from Grandnational007:Technically, "small batch" isn't a legal term...
Define a "small batch". Is it two barrels? 100? 10,000? I guess any vatting of barrels is considered "small batch" compared to the sheer batch size that the likes of Jack Daniels Old No. 7 or Jim Beam White Label must be.
I'd also be willing to bet that it is distilled in Indiana (MGP Juice). No idea where it's bottled. I don't think I have ever seen a bottle labeled "made in", but I could be wrong.
That's their words from their website. And Small Batch is off the label after a lawsuit.
Screenshot_20190702-132041_Chrome (resized).jpgHa! Just glancing at that image, it looks like the typical made up story upstart, or resurrected defunct brand launched by investors. They usually sell a good story and a crappy product. These brands generally use the cheapest, youngest juice MGP (or others) will sell them.
Conversely, brands like High West or Smooth Ambler never made up a "founders" story or tried to imply that they actually distilled and aged the product. They were forward with the fact that they bought barrels (Some VERY GOOD) from other distilleries, and packaged it themselves.
Ethically, I have no problem with non-distiller producers, as long as they are truthful about it.
Michter's, Whistlepig, and Willet bottled other's juice prior to their own coming online, and continue to do so with the higher aged offerings.
"Small Batch" is nothing more than a marketing term to solicit more dollars from your squeaky wallet for something you perceive to be a better product. Like @Grandnational007 said up above that there is X amount of bottles being produced by X amount of barrels. There is no statement from the manufacturer about how many bottles or actually produced to make this some sort of small batch . So then it is nothing more than an unsubstantiated statement on the label of a bottle to sell more product. However we all rush out to buy these products the second they are released without thinking any more about that.
I should brush up on my trade board legal bourbon definitions, but I don't believe "Single Barrel" is technically a thing either, but rather a marketing term with no legal definition.
Seems simple, right? Not exactly.
How could you label something as being "Single Barrel" and not have it be from a single barrel?
I could mix the contents of multiple barrels, re-barrel them for 1 second to xxx amount of years, and voila!, "Single Barrel" whiskey.
That said, the major bourbon distilleries use the honor code in this regard. For example, Buffalo Trace voluntarily removed the single barrel designation from Eagle Rare 5 or so years ago. Why? Due to a change in the way they bottled the product, there could be a drop from another barrel comingled in the bottling lines, and therefore, it wouldn't be a "single barrel".
Prior to automation of the bottling line, they literally punched a faucet tap into every single individual barrel bung, then filled the bottles by hand. Now they use a semi-automated line/pump system, so every 150 bottles or so, depending on barrel yield, you have slight overlap of the contents of one barrel to another in the line. Miniscule, but they felt they shouldn't label it as such anymore. (Even though I still consider it to be)
Quoted from Grandnational007:Prior to automation of the bottling line, they literally punched a faucet tap into every single individual barrel bung, then filled the bottles by hand. Now they use a semi-automated line/pump system, so every 150 bottles or so, depending on barrel yield, you have slight overlap of the contents of one barrel to another in the line. Miniscule, but they felt they shouldn't label it as such anymore. (Even though I still consider it to be)
That is an awesome post.
Ok so I got home and went right to the cabinet and grabbed the bottle of Bakers. So the reviews are all over the map on it but after 1st glass i'm very pleased with it. At this point its definitely a keeper!
Quoted from Jgel:Guys, what is your go-to Rye? I have been drinking the Bullet Rye and really like the taste. I have been a wheater but have started to get into Rye because of Old Fashions. Then from Olf Fashions to straight Rye. I can't get anything rare here in PA but what are your favs of the easy to find brands?
Whistle Pig 10 yr is really good but probably not worth the $80-$90. Pikesville is wonderful and fairly easy to find and worth every penny at $50. Wild Turkey 101 rye is pretty good $30. Sazerac (baby Saz) is good, around $30. The best value for me is Old Forester Rye which is an insane buy at $20. The Pikesville and Sazerac drink closer to bourbons if you're a bourbon guy trying to get into ryes.
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