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Pinball 2000 Playfield Glass Discussion

By MythMaker

7 years ago


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“Do you need a replacement Pinball 2000 Glass”

  • Mine is broken and I need one ASAP 3 votes
    6%
  • Mine has a few scratches and could use a replacement 20 votes
    39%
  • I would love to have a spare on hand 15 votes
    29%
  • Nope 13 votes
    25%

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#5 7 years ago
Quoted from Twilight1:

My buddy has a deck railing company. He gets glass for eveyone in the pinball league. And for 40$ a sheet

Glass must cost a lot more in Canada, because a sheet of tempered pinball glass is $15-20 at every pinball show in the States.

A piece of real, partially mirrored glass for P2K is $150:

http://lockwhenlit.com/products.htm

#6 7 years ago
Quoted from mbaumle:

Seriously though, would it be possible just to find a good automotive tint and make your own?

No, you would have access to a vacuum deposition chamber to do the partial mirroring.

#13 7 years ago
Quoted from Esoteric_rt:

Not a perfect solution but pretty darn close and the best we could get at the bottom of the world

Are their any telescope mirror coating companies down under?

Telescope mirrors are recoated every few years, because the coatings are on the front surface (rather than on the protected back like normal mirrors).

All someone would have to do was measure the reflectance of the pin2000 coatings (50% maybe?) and you could have it done easily on any tempered glass, gradient and all.

#29 7 years ago
Quoted from mamawaldee:

. Perhaps it might be better to source fully tinted glass and polish it off over the lower playfield. Anybody know how to get a hold of plate glass with a full reflective coating?

You need some "one way" security observation glass.

You want it tempered, not just plate/float glass.

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A regular "mirror" is made by fully coating the glass with evaporated aluminum (93% reflective ), then painting over the aluminum to keep it from oxidizing or scratching.

A "one way mirror" is made by putting a 50% mirror coating on the glass. When you are in a bright room, the 50% reflective side will make the glass appear to be a mirror. When you are on the dark side, you can see through the mirror into the bright room.

Think of mirror sunglasses, from the dark side, your eyes see through to the outside world. From the bright side, the world sees a mirror.

Every single crappy cop drama show has a "one way" mirror scene during an interrogation.

(science says that there is no such thing as a one-way mirror, so think of them as a 2-way mirror if you need to)

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So if you got the proper size one-way mirror, and then polished off the aluminum on part of it, you could make your own pin2k glass.

Now, all we need is someone with a light meter to measure how reflective the NOS pin2k glass is....

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#32 7 years ago
Quoted from Starwriter:

Weird that they show some kind of window shade roller type of mirror.

The patent describes it as glass, so yeah, that's a terrible drawing.

Pinside won't let the pdf upload for some reason, so here is the entire patent:

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pdfs/US6129353.pdf

Quoted from Starwriter:

Interesting that they put MB on the side art.

Cactus Canyon is on another drawing in the patent.

#34 7 years ago

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#41 7 years ago
Quoted from sevenrites:

I'd find it hard to believe if there isn't someone from Williams / Bally / Midway in the know about the pin2000 project already browsing or participating on this site

99% of all industry insiders have deactivated their Pinside accounts.

They try to help, they get treated like shit, and they check out.

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