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Pinball 2000 Playfield Glass Discussion

By MythMaker

7 years ago


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“Do you need a replacement Pinball 2000 Glass”

  • Mine is broken and I need one ASAP 3 votes
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  • Mine has a few scratches and could use a replacement 20 votes
    39%
  • I would love to have a spare on hand 15 votes
    29%
  • Nope 13 votes
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#51 7 years ago
Quoted from MythMaker:

... If it is an exact match, patent licensing would come into play as well.

Doubtful any patent licensing would come into play (and agree with your "exact match").

TL;DR: Someone make this. There is no IP (at least in this patent shared earlier)

I've skimmed over the patent. It's kind of interesting...

Couple of interesting points...

1) George G. isn't an inventor! The inventors are DeMar; Lawrence E. (Winnetka, IL), Koziarz; Louis N. (Buffalo Grove, IL), Piotrowski; Peter J. (Long Grove, IL), Weyna; Mark A. (Des Plaines, IL)

2) The patent describes the reflective glass but it is not included in a claim, so there is no IP

In the description (not the claims!): "Cooperatively, a portion 54 of the transparent panel 40 which is aligned with the image surface or screen 52 of the CRT 50 thereabove is constructed of material that has both transparent and reflective properties".

3) The "partially reflective member" does show up in claims, but only in compound claims. Meaning they are saying they own the IP to a pinball machine that uses X, Y and Z where Z is a "partially reflective member". They are not, however, saying they own the IP to the separate creation or use of a "partially reflective member" [I'm sure someone can nit-pick what I wrote here, but the gist is correct... and I didn't want to write multiple paragraphs]

4) it's interesting that in addition to glass with a reflective element, they have protected the use of a "reflective member based on a retractable shade"

... Altan

#52 7 years ago

Excellent info & research Altan. Thanks for sharing.

#53 7 years ago

Bumping this thread back up in hopes that someone might know someone who might be able to possibly manufacture this part. Lots of mights

Also great research Altan. It seems tough to prove the glass itself is patented.

2 months later
#54 7 years ago

A guy from Austria has actually managed to reproduce the glass (or at least glass that has the same function as the original).

He's trying to set up a bulk order, but currently not successful in getting enough participants. At the minimum order quantity of 100 sheets the price is still 380EUR, it is wildly complicated to make it and needs very special tools hardly anyone has. I wouldn't expect him to ship glass sheets overseas, so this is just to let you know that it definitely is possible and it can be done at a, maybe not satisfying, but at least bearable price.

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