just my 2 cents- but I feel the pin 2000 games is what finally killed williams,
perhaps if Stern jumps in that pool they may also go under?

Disagree with you on this one, Autumnfade, you should really watch "Tilt!" - a movie about the rise and fall of pinball 2000. It's not the game or the concept that killed WMS, it were the suits and ties, upper management, bad decisions and bad timing (the dotcom bubble).

Stern should definately try a "wild and new" concept like pin2k, anything to renew general interest in pinball. Or they might go down and that would really suck.

Tilt is a good movie. I got and watched it for free from the local library.

You all know I sold my RFM Pin2000. It was nice but way to much eye candy for me. I guess I'm just an old pinhead at heart. (The big bucks I got for it was nice though).

YES SIRS! Tilt is probably the best information out there at the moment about pin2000. And I agree as well. The pin2000 was an awesome concept and it sold and made Williams money! They sold over 10,000 units of RFM! They turned over a profit and it was going great! Once they got into that Star Wars LICENSE and had to raise the price of a machine to pay for that, THAT'S what killed them. There were license and distribution problems with that line of machine and the greedy "suit and ties" were making oodles of money with the gambling machines so they pulled the plug on the pinball line, probably to set up another gambling machine production line as well could be another reason.

Once you purchased the 'base' machine you could change out the playfield,software and signage marquee's to put in different games to the cabinet. Kind of a jamma type of system (like the arcade games used to be). I would love to own a RFM! The thing is, no one wants to sell them. I have only seen the Star Wars pin 2000's for sale around here!

Check this out,

http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=231&pg=1

http://www.pinballnews.com/news/p2kupdate.html

If I could afford a Star Wars Episode 1, I'd defo consider buying this.

I was looking into getting a RFM to install the NuCore system but I was unsure of what new features would be developed. I know that you can add a new LCD monitor, ditch the prism card, and have an MP3 jukebox but ... We'll I figured that my money and time could be better spent elsewhere