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Picking up a F-14 tomcat, what to look for?

By Magicmike0

11 years ago


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#1 11 years ago

Hey guys, I'm driving down the interstate right now so the quicker the suggestions the better. I'm about 10 minutes away from this place. I saw a good deal on a F-14 and jumped On it. Sorry for the typos I'm doing text to speech, so hopefully you can figure out what I'm trying to say. What do I need to look out for when buying a pan.? I'm already know that a couple of the flippers do not work but I figure that's a small fix. Anything else you guys can think of I need to look out for before I purchased this baby?

#3 11 years ago

Thanks to the one guy who responded quick.. HAHAHAH! Well, I went ahead and pick it up. I talked to B_R and he said I'd be crazy to let it go for the price they were asking
Thanks B_R and tamoore.

#4 11 years ago

Here's a link to a quick glimpse of it. I know I don't seem excited but its only because I not the best at flipping pinball games haha. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.
-MMZ

#5 11 years ago

Not bumping,just fig since I started this post I'd continue to ask here. Do you F14 owners take the old mylar off or does it need to stay? Mine is bubbling. I take it is was factory layout sine all the mylar looks to be patterend.

#7 11 years ago

Mine has the lights on top too
everybody has mentioned the raised inserts, B_R asked me too. Whats the deal with the inserts? I can't tell really. It feels smooth except for the raised mylar in spots that pops as the ball rolls across it :/

#9 11 years ago

Sorry bud
If it looks to be to much work for me I may put it back on Craigslist, but I will give you first dibs :-)if I do. It would be a nice flip for somebody who knows what they're doing. I want a good F-14 for sure.I just gotta see what it'd take to get it looking/playing good before I decide what to do.

#15 11 years ago

Well. Just tried to put in a new diode and coil to see if it would help the left flipper that was sticking. in the process a wire touched some place it shouldnt have because i heard that sweet sound of traveling electric current and it traveled all the way down to the left flipper button And burnt something down there into. At first the top left flipper and the right flippers still worked in test mode but after a couple of flips it all stopped and now the ball ejectors make noise but they won't pop the ball back out. Ugh!!!! Now what?

#17 11 years ago

I saw smoke at the left flipper switch
Awwww man this sux. Only thing I saw damaged was this...

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#19 11 years ago

I would but I can't get in the dang thing. I have the key but it doesn't turn.
Well. My luck. Thanks for the input.

#21 11 years ago

Aha I got it. Somebody before me had the backglass and the speaker board wedged tight and it wouldn't turn. I just pecked and wiggled and it released all the tension between them and the glass dropped enough to where it would turn. Ok.... I'm going in. Wish me luck

#22 11 years ago

So far not seeing anything. Much cleaner than my SOF haha. Any clue which board to concentrate on?

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#24 11 years ago

All I have is a small click for ball popper, Center eject,right eject,and diverters. Not like it used to be a louder pop

#25 11 years ago

Hmmm I never knew how to get to the switch edges. Thanks! What am I looking for when I get there? sorry I'm so new at this.

#27 11 years ago

Cool thanks for all the info I appreciate you bro. I still can't fig out why that dang left flipper goes up once the game is on. Once I go into test mode it drops but as soon as I hit start it goes in upward position. That's what caused all this. Looking for the answer to that. I thought it was the diode because the little wire was in half. I replaced the diode and the coil and soldered it all back and it does the same thing. As I went to undo it the wires touched the wrong place on the diode thingy and ZAP!

#28 11 years ago

Yeah blown fuse for the diverters/ball ejectors or popper as it calls it
Thanks bud. Now for the flippers again!!!!

#29 11 years ago

Also not sure what kind of dude this is I got but its what was in there. Long story short as soon as I push right flipper during gameplay it blew again

#31 11 years ago

Not sure what Fuse ....not dude. Smartphones are so smart!!!
It calls for 4 am slo blo but this is what was in it. I don't know nothing bout no fuses either. Haha... Ohhhh I'm learning though. Thanks for everybody's help

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#33 11 years ago

(Side note I have gotten an adjust failure message since I bought this thing yesterday. From the first time I fired I up.) I forgot to mention that.
Ok back to the short... This wiring here is what I'm not sure of anymore. What goes where? I know the gray wore touched the somewhere causing the problem I have now with none of the flippers working.
First photo is where the wire touched causing short(above flipper assembly I think that's the diode)
Second pic is old diode I replace thinking it was the cause of raised flipper
3rd pic is the only damage I found so far.

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#34 11 years ago

When u say switches? U mean all the scoring spots.... Yeah all is working I think. Bumpers targets and .... I will try to do a video real quick an put it on YouTube.

#36 11 years ago

Here's a vid. What's the batteries for... Memory? Thanks again for all your help.

#37 11 years ago

Yeah I'm done messing...but I am trying to learn

#39 11 years ago

That'd be cool man. It's a good drive for me and it'd be nice to make a night out of it at least. Maybe someday once I get all my ducks in a row here. Doing the whole refinance thing. Haha. Why am I getting into pinball, right? Thanks again for all the suggestions and tips. Anybody else want to add feel free to check my video and suggest away.

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#43 11 years ago
Quoted from VolunteerPin:

Any luck on this? I hope you get this thing up and running. Sorry to hear you've had so much trouble.

Hey volunteer I actually got it semi
Working. I would like to say 100% but I'm not sure about it. Small problems like, pop bumper not allowing ball release gates to open.(possibly ordered wrong cap for it but it said Williams) I got the flippers all going. It doesn't seem as smooth as my swords of fury, I am pretty sure all that old Mylar is causing issues but it could be that too of the ole raised inserts tale. I dunno. The ball hangs up here and tere too. Haha today it got hung up in the middle of the lower right slingshot because I don't have the plastic but I mean hey I'm happy with the minor issues from what I started with. I need a plunger kit and a lock bar still. I took it apart and cleaned the playfield best I could and waxed it even though its 75% Mylar. I got new pinballs and rubber rings coming this week. About 95 % of the lights are working and I LED'd the main arrow inserts. It looks pretty awesome so far. I hope I can tweak it all. It almost seems kinda to strong up top because that ball hit the glass a few times... Hehe. I will try and do a video real quick showing my progress. I owe a lot of thanks to pinside members helping. Especially Crash! I stayed up one night all night til 7am(that was the Night of the disassembling and putting back together after cleaning) then I stayed up another night rebuilding flippers and replacing coils til 4am.

#47 11 years ago
Quoted from wayout440:

Make sure you have the correct coils in the upper flippers. Too strong and you can damage your targets and plastics. Here is a Williams coil strength chart:
FL-11753 Yellow - Used with short flippers and close shots
FL-11722 Green - Used for close shots near drop targets
FL-11630 Red - The standard, most commonly used coil
FL-15411 Orange - Used for long playfield shots
FL-11629 Blue - Used for long shots and high ramps

Yeah I made sure before I ordered them from pinball life. it may be that they aren't lined up properly but they seem to be in line. I guess I'm just not used to them be fully functional haha.

#48 11 years ago

Oh and sorry bout the video cutting off ....phone memory

#50 11 years ago
Quoted from burningman:

Looks like you need the same slingshot plastic I am looking for....
After rebuilding the flippers, could you tell a big difference?

Well, to begin with they weren't working so I can't compare them. The bottom right was , but they do seem pretty snappy. My SOF machine on the other hand, I can tell a huuuuge difference after the rebuild.

#53 11 years ago

Not yet, I really haven't looked to close IMO it yet. Not sure if its the belts or the actual part spinning on the beacons.

#54 11 years ago

Correction, Haven't looked close at it.... Not sure why it said IMO.
Things are coming along. I wonder if I need to take that Mylar up though ? It seems to affect the ball where its raises in spots. Then again could be the inserts

#55 11 years ago
Quoted from burningman:

One thing I noticed in your video was the bleed thru from the topper lights into the back cabinet that shines on the translite when the topper lights are going. That drove me nuts...I black taped the holes up there so the don't shine down. Since mine is home use now, and is not on all day everyday, I don't think this should cause a heat issue...

I didn't pay it much attention. Sounds like a good idea though. Did you led yours? I am trying to decide between warm and cool gi lighting and would like to see more pics/video from people to get a better idea.

#60 11 years ago

Sounds scary, especially the lowering inserts. I read a lil a out people hitting them with hammers. Was there ever a good out ome and fix for lowering inserts?

#67 11 years ago

Good news to anybody who cares, I figured out how to fix where the ball gate was hitting the pop bumper cap. Yo luckydogg420, Is that the reason you have your cap off? What I did, was switched the ball troughs around and it seems to be clearing easily now.

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#68 11 years ago

Also just got some new balls n rubbers. Hmm that white tip looks brown and used.?

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#73 11 years ago
Quoted from Crash:

By the way did you get 2-1/2" rubbers for the slings? The 2" size specified in the manual is quite tight.

Yes sir
Here's a vid of me n bro playing for the first time. Thanks again Crash for all your help and to all those who helped with your advice.

#75 11 years ago

Look what came today... If anybody is still following this haha. I will prob start a new thread once installed

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#78 11 years ago

Hey guys I put up a couple pics and a vid link in the pinballbulbs thread. Hope this links ya. http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/introducing-new-led-company-free-bulbs-pinside-discount/page/5

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