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Physical Movie Media Enthusiasts - DVD, Blu-Ray, LaserDisc, VHS, etc

By ForceFlow

3 years ago


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“What physical movie media do you have?”

  • Film Reels 9 votes
    2%
  • Cassettes 29 votes
    8%
  • VHS 60 votes
    16%
  • Betamax 5 votes
    1%
  • DVD 85 votes
    23%
  • LaserDisc 27 votes
    7%
  • CED 4 votes
    1%
  • HD DVD 23 votes
    6%
  • Blu-Ray 79 votes
    22%
  • 4k UHD 35 votes
    10%
  • Other 11 votes
    3%

(Multiple choice - 367 votes by 93 Pinsiders)

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#1 3 years ago

Since there seemed to be a good discussion on physical media for movies and TV shows in a recent FS/trade thread:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/600-dvd-ampamp-blu-ray-movies-for-stern-pinball

I thought it might be fun to keep it going.

#2 3 years ago

I've got a few movies on Hi8. Does that count?

#3 3 years ago

That was a hilarious post. It reminds me of those shows where people try to trade up from a paperclip to a house (or whatever)

In the real world, however, i own mostly blu rays. I have just a few dvds (mostly rarer movies or discs i got for free or extremely cheap). I have a few vhs, but i havent had a vcr in awhile.

I am a movie guy, and i greatly prefer physical media over streaming. I enjoy having access to my movies at any time.

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#4 3 years ago

Ill trade all these movies and the player for a Night Moves or Caribbean Cruise backglass.

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#5 3 years ago
Quoted from gweempose:

I've got a few movies on Hi8. Does that count?

Retail releases? I was under the impression Hi8 was just used for video cameras.

#6 3 years ago
Quoted from gweempose:

I've got a few movies on Hi8. Does that count?

Quoted from ForceFlow:

Retail releases? I was under the impression Hi8 were just used for video cameras.

Highest quality bootlegs since Napster!

#7 3 years ago

BluRays will always kick the ass of any stream, 4k or not. Would love to try some of those new 4k HDR BluRays on a nice compatible system.

Before my current job I worked (and I guess still do) as an Artists Assistant for a prominent American Avant-garde filmmaker and really fell in love with film prints during that time. Nothing quite like it.

I miss when all movie theaters were 35mm prints.

#8 3 years ago

Blu Ray's and DVD.

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#9 3 years ago

ForceFlow Don’t forget the short lived DIVX for your poll. I actually had a player that could play them along with regular dvds, but never got on board with the actual DIVX discs.

#10 3 years ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

Retail releases? I was under the impression Hi8 was just used for video cameras.

I was service manager for a local video store (in Gweempose's town) back when, and we sold & rented retail 8mm video tapes. (mostly they were Paramount releases) (Along with VHS, Beta, and Laserdisc.)
(Fixed alot of Minolta, Canon & Sony 8mm cameras & decks back then.)

#11 3 years ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

Retail releases? I was under the impression Hi8 was just used for video cameras.

Not retail. I think I recorded them off cable. It's hard to remember. We're talking like 30 years ago.

#12 3 years ago
Quoted from Timerider:

I was service manager for a local video store (in Gweempose's town) back when, and we sold & rented retail 8mm video tapes. (mostly they were Paramount releases) (Along with VHS, Beta, and Laserdisc.)
(Fixed alot of Minolta, Canon & Sony 8mm cameras & decks back then.)

Quoted from gweempose:

Not retail. I think I recorded them off cable. It's hard to remember. We're talking like 30 years ago.

I had an 8mm camcorder back in the day, but never had a dedicated player for it other than the camera itself. I hadn't heard of any retail releases on that format, so I was curious.

#13 3 years ago

I dig obsolete video formats... I've VHS, BETA and CED players. I've an old console TV... I keep the old analog tech around for nostalgia, at least until it becomes un-repairable or the media fades.

#14 3 years ago

I still like to own a physical disc than digital. Its the OCD in me maybe. Also, the extra features are just as enjoyable to me as the movie/show. I think there is a digital format that can keep all the extras in tack. Movies I picked up when Blockbuster was having a firesale does not have the extras and neather did Netflix discs.

#15 3 years ago
Quoted from hAbO:

I still like to own a physical disc than digital. Its the OCD in me maybe. Also, the extra features are just as enjoyable to me as the movie/show. I think there is a digital format that can keep all the extras in tack. Movies I picked up when Blockbuster was having a firesale does not have the extras and neather did Netflix discs.

I remember when blockbuster bought out a smaller company by me. There was already a blockbuster right down the street from it, yet they turned it into a blockbuster anyway.
They were like a half mile apart.

Anyway, the smaller company had a lot more obscure films; More sci-fi, horror, etc. And an adult section.

Blockbuster, only being into family movies, put most all of the movies (vhs and I THINK dvds were out at that time) they weren't going to carry into their big sale bins up front to purchase.

I recall about falling on floor laughing when I looked through some...blockbuster tore out the roped off, seperate adult room, since that's not for family...but........they had NO problems with making money, by selling them outright!!

They actually took the adult films, and put them, original cases and all, right in the for sale bins near the checkout!!!

'Let's see, I'd like to rent a Barney video, Saving Private Ryan, and ooooh I think I'll walk over here and grab some popcorn...HEY look honey! Blockbuster is selling porn now!!'

#16 3 years ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

I had an 8mm camcorder back in the day, but never had a dedicated player for it other than the camera itself. I hadn't heard of any retail releases on that format, so I was curious.

Yeah, we were a somewhat mid-high end A/V store in the semi-affluent Chicago Northern suburbs... so we had to have the media to go with the hardware we sold.
I left before Hi8 came out... only dealt with the straight 8mm video stuff. If Hi8 did get retail releases, it was probably only in Japan.
But I remember it was part of Paramount studios to push the $24.95 videotape market for all formats. (Most pre-recorded movies were $49-$69 at the time. Even the porn. )

If you want to see a bunch of cool, obscure tech... I recommend this channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Techmoan

#17 3 years ago
Quoted from Timerider:

Yeah, we were a somewhat mid-high end A/V store in the semi-affluent Chicago Northern suburbs... so we had to have the media to go with the hardware we sold.
I left before Hi8 came out... only dealt with the straight 8mm video stuff. If Hi8 did get retail releases, it was probably only in Japan.
But I remember it was part of Paramount studios to push the $24.95 videotape market for all formats. (Most pre-recorded movies were $49-$69 at the time. Even the porn. )
If you want to see a bunch of cool, obscure tech... I recommend this channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Techmoan

Techmoan is AWESOME! LOVE some of his obscure, non North America formats. He loves his big early versions of things like early CD players etc.

To this day I'm mad at myself for giving away my old Radio Shack cd player. It was big, and at the time the only cds I got were some random classical type compilations sold by RS.

Players were still expensive at the time, but I had got a new fancier one; so gave mine to a coworker. All you had to do was help the drawer a little because it needed a new belt. He got drunk and pissed off at it and threw it, I guess. Some way to show thanks, when he couldn't afford a player at the time. Oh well.

Anyway. Some of Techmoan's big stuff just made me remember my old bigger versions.

#18 3 years ago

Any Sony UMD collectors out there?

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#19 3 years ago

I have tons of stuff I still have in a box and in one of those case things (without the covers just the discs).

but I often wonder why... probably next time I move it will get junked or ebay if I dont use it anytime soon.

Some rare stuff in there tho..

#20 3 years ago
Quoted from Timerider:

If you want to see a bunch of cool, obscure tech... I recommend this channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Techmoan

I've been subscribed to that channel for a while. He shows off some interesting stuff.

Here's another somewhat similar channel, but not limited to video formats (Technology Connections): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy0tKL1T7wFoYcxCe0xjN6Q

Another one, but mostly focused on gaming and vintage PCs (The 8-Bit Guy): https://www.youtube.com/user/adric22

#21 3 years ago

I mostly have DVD and Blu Ray. Here's most of that movie collection. I also have tv shows and some VHS, LaserDisc, Video Disc, and BetaMax, but don't really use them too often.

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#22 3 years ago
Quoted from Elvishasleft:

I have tons of stuff I still have in a box and in one of those case things (without the covers just the discs).
but I often wonder why... probably next time I move it will get junked or ebay if I dont use it anytime soon.
Some rare stuff in there tho..

Sounds like you should be putting up an ad to trade for a pinball

#23 3 years ago
Quoted from Daditude:

Sounds like you should be putting up an ad to trade for a pinball

well I do have original version pre-messed with DVD copies of all Star Wars movies, surely those are worth a pinball

#24 3 years ago

I got rid of almost all our physical media until 4K came out and we got an LG OLED tv.. damn it, now im breaking those out.

I’d really like to get more 16mm; I have a few prints of my favourites and would really love to expand that or someday do 35mm. It’s not terribly better quality than 4K but it’s bigger and brighter!

#25 3 years ago

Music artists and film makers have remastered and edited some of their albums and movies for digital/streaming services, and if you don’t have the original physical media you won’t be able to enjoy the work of art as it was originally released. Everyone knows Star Wars with Han shot first, or ET with guns being switched to flashlights, but there’s a lot of examples. From the simpsons being edited on Disney+ to Canadian rapper maestro fresh wes’ hit Let your backbone slide just missing from streaming services, you can not rely on the content you’re looking for to be there.

I don’t know if I’m still allowed in this club. I just spent December and January ripping all of my movies onto a Plex server so that I can access them easier throughout my home, but I don’t plan to get rid of any physical media. I have about 400 DVD and bluray, 700 cd’s, and 200 vinyl.

#26 3 years ago

Yep, I collect certain blu rays. Some of which are limited runs.

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#27 3 years ago

Mostly Blu-ray for me as well, but they haven’t released nothing in months thanks to COVID.

I have to admit. I’m a sucker for the steel books and love collecting them.

#28 3 years ago

Love my blu rays and vinyls!

Lots of stuff from Shout, Vinegar Syndrome, etc. I go through phases of watching ‘good movies’ and ‘bad movies’ depending on my mood.

Vinyls are a must when working on games.

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#29 3 years ago

4k UHD is amazing and an experience. You can stream losslessy from plex if your client supports the audio and video formats. Also, if you have an older blu-ray player on your PC it might already support UHD. Without buying any new equipment, I was able to stream Planet Earth 2 from Plex to my 4k tvs. I picked up Planet Earth 2/blue planet 2 UHD combo on black Friday for like $20.

Worth every penny.

#30 3 years ago

My dad invested in CED quite a bit, and it was the right move at that time. We couldn't afford LD, and most CEDs were 19.99-29.99. The Bond films, the best westerns, Star Wars, Disney shorts, wonderful memories. Before that it was Super 8 shorts, which were enjoyable on a different level.

I converted our home movie super 8 films on DVDs a few years ago and I even had the convert some of the monster reels. They looked at me at the photo lab like I was crazy.

EC comic books, super 8 films, OTR shows on cassettes....it was a great childhood.

#31 3 years ago

I’m almost all digital now. Keeping blu rays and 4ks.

I have a ton of laserdiscs if anyone wants them all. Free for pickup.

#32 3 years ago
Quoted from hank527:

I’m almost all digital now. Keeping blu rays and 4ks.
I have a ton of laserdiscs if anyone wants them all. Free for pickup.

Dang. That's nice of you to offer those LD to someone!

If it was something shipable by media mail I, along with others, would be all over it!

#33 3 years ago
Quoted from Luckydogg420:

I don’t know if I’m still allowed in this club. I just spent December and January ripping all of my movies onto a Plex server so that I can access them easier throughout my home, but I don’t plan to get rid of any physical media. I have about 400 DVD and bluray, 700 cd’s, and 200 vinyl.

Don't see why you would not be allowed since you still have the physical media and playing them on Plex provides the same quality assuming they were ripped without any compression. I recently switched to Plex myself and have been liking it. Have around 850 Bluray and 400 DVD. At first I hated Plex and was coming from Kodi however once I gave it some time I really started to like it on my NVIDIA Shield.

#34 3 years ago
Quoted from hank527:

I’m almost all digital now. Keeping blu rays and 4ks.
I have a ton of laserdiscs if anyone wants them all. Free for pickup.

Hi, What state are you in? If close I would be very interested in the LD's

#35 3 years ago

I enjoy physical media and have a ton of DVD's and Blu Ray's. An uncle of mine got me into film, especially foreign films, and after he passed away my aunt gave me his collection of Criterion DVD's, probably 150 + films. I have those proudly being displayed on a shelf and will never get rid of them.

With that being said for 4K and beyond I'm going digital through Apple Movies. I never thought I would say that as I've been a die hard physical media forever guy for years but the quality, convenience, and price of digital movies on Apple Movies won me over. Apples bitrate is highest in the industry and their compression technology is probably the best. Apple is offering a peak bit rate of around 30Mb/s for movies and 40Mb/s for Apple TV + shows while Amazon Prime peaks around 15 Mb/s and about the same with Netflix which is disappointing. Disney + isn't much better, around 15 Mb/s but I've read some reports of it being a bit higher.

I just can't stomach buying the same movies on yet another physical format, I mean how many copies of Back to the Future can one own? lol. Bought it on VHS, then DVD, and finally Blu Ray. I passed on the physical 4K versions and bought them on Apple Movies in 4K for $15 during a sale. Pricing on Apple Movies, especially during sales as mentioned, is really good. I picked up the entire Lord of the Rings and Hobbit extended 4K trilogies for $50 this past Christmas. The 4k Blu Ray's would have been over $200 at the time, even $160 now on sale. I just can't do it.

The video below is a professional comparison between 4K Ultra Blu Ray vs streaming on Apple TV 4K. The results are surprisingly close. The 4K Ultra Blu Ray looks slightly better in some parts but its not very noticeable, not enough personally to sway me. For my setup I have an Apple TV 4K wired to my router with a 500Mbps internet connection and movies (plus Apple TV + shows which run at an even higher bit rate) look amazing.

#36 3 years ago
Quoted from sunnRAT:

Yep, I collect certain blu rays. Some of which are limited runs.

Very nice. You and I have a lot of the same flix. I am envious of that Dellamorte Dellamore blu.

#37 3 years ago
Quoted from Luckydogg420:

I don’t know if I’m still allowed in this club. I just spent December and January ripping all of my movies onto a Plex server so that I can access them easier throughout my home, but I don’t plan to get rid of any physical media. I have about 400 DVD and bluray, 700 cd’s, and 200 vinyl.

I do the same thing. I buy the Bluray or 4K and then immediately rip it to my 49TB server. When I'm home, I use a few NVIDIA Shields to direct stream and when I'm out of the house, I can connect to the web interface on a computer or use my iPhone.

#38 3 years ago
Quoted from Luckydogg420:

I don’t know if I’m still allowed in this club. I just spent December and January ripping all of my movies onto a Plex server so that I can access them easier throughout my home, but I don’t plan to get rid of any physical media. I have about 400 DVD and bluray, 700 cd’s, and 200 vinyl.

Plex is so convenient and works so well, it's hard to imagine ever going back to the old days where you have to get up and load a disc.

#39 3 years ago
Quoted from BoJo:

Don't see why you would not be allowed since you still have the physical media and playing them on Plex provides the same quality assuming they were ripped without any compression. I recently switched to Plex myself and have been liking it. Have around 850 Bluray and 400 DVD. At first I hated Plex and was coming from Kodi however once I gave it some time I really started to like it on my NVIDIA Shield.

I'm still a Kodi guy, but I'm coming to a point where I need to rebuild the unit and just got a Pi 4 for that purpose, so I'm looking at Plex too. As a previous Kodi developer i'll probably stick with that but Plex is definitely making serious inroads!

#40 3 years ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

I enjoy physical media and have a ton of DVD's and Blu Ray's. An uncle of mine got me into film, especially foreign films, and after he passed away my aunt gave me his collection of Criterion DVD's, probably 150 + films. I have those proudly being displayed on a shelf and will never get rid of them.
With that being said for 4K and beyond I'm going digital through Apple Movies. I never thought I would say that as I've been a die hard physical media forever guy for years but the quality, convenience, and price of digital movies on Apple Movies won me over. Apples bitrate is highest in the industry and their compression technology is probably the best. Apple is offering a peak bit rate of around 30Mb/s for movies and 40Mb/s for Apple TV + shows while Amazon Prime peaks around 15 Mb/s and about the same with Netflix which is disappointing. Disney + isn't much better, around 15 Mb/s but I've read some reports of it being a bit higher.
I just can't stomach buying the same movies on yet another physical format, I mean how many copies of Back to the Future can one own? lol. Bought it on VHS, then DVD, and finally Blu Ray. I passed on the physical 4K versions and bought them on Apple Movies in 4K for $15 during a sale. Pricing on Apple Movies, especially during sales as mentioned, is really good. I picked up the entire Lord of the Rings and Hobbit extended 4K trilogies for $50 this past Christmas. The 4k Blu Ray's would have been over $200 at the time, even $160 now on sale. I just can't do it.
The video below is a professional comparison between 4K Ultra Blu Ray vs streaming on Apple TV 4K. The results are surprisingly close. The 4K Ultra Blu Ray looks slightly better in some parts but its not very noticeable, not enough personally to sway me. For my setup I have an Apple TV 4K wired to my router with a 500Mbps internet connection and movies (plus Apple TV + shows which run at an even higher bit rate) look amazing.

Totally anecdotal, but I bought the original Star Wars on 4K and realized we didn't have a 4k player (thought the kid's PS4 Pro would handle it. nope), so we streamed over Disney+. Later when I got a proper 4k bluray player, and did a comparison - again, it's anectodal, but I could not tell the difference if you put a gun to my head. Black levels same (we have an LG OLED tv so I'm real sensitive to proper black levels), no crushing, colors popped, no compression issues, colors look same, even when measured with my SpyderX. Pretty damn impressive. I'm surprised to read that the bitrates are so much lower than AppleTv.

#41 3 years ago

Picked up my LD collection of about 275 discs a couple years ago. It literally may be the best $250 I've ever spent.

I know it's dumb, especially when I own many of these in blu-ray/4k, but being able to watch Jurassic Park with the first ever home release of DTS 5.1 audio just gives me so much joy.

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#42 3 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Totally anecdotal, but I bought the original Star Wars on 4K and realized we didn't have a 4k player (thought the kid's PS4 Pro would handle it. nope), so we streamed over Disney+. Later when I got a proper 4k bluray player, and did a comparison - again, it's anectodal, but I could not tell the difference if you put a gun to my head. Black levels same (we have an LG OLED tv so I'm real sensitive to proper black levels), no crushing, colors popped, no compression issues, colors look same, even when measured with my SpyderX. Pretty damn impressive. I'm surprised to read that the bitrates are so much lower than AppleTv.

That's really impressive to hear, wow. Sounds like Disney + is using some great compression tech. For under $10 a month it's hard to beat and it's also nice that Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos are supported.

#43 3 years ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

That's really impressive to hear, wow. Sounds like Disney + is using some great compression tech. For under $10 a month it's hard to beat and it's also nice that Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos are supported.

Tell me about it! Between Netflix, Hulu, Criterion Channel, and Amazon (I guess technically that's "Free"-ish), I'm paying about $45 for streaming services ON TOP OF cable (don't get me started). I wanted to cancel Disney+ after the initial free period once Mandalorian was over.. but I'm starting to think it's actually worth it. Damn it! Cable's about to get slashed...

#44 3 years ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:That's really impressive to hear, wow. Sounds like Disney + is using some great compression tech. For under $10 a month it's hard to beat and it's also nice that Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos are supported.

Just noticed you mentioned the LOTR 4ks - worth it? I think they have a bigger box coming out later this year. I was holding off, but for $50 I will get over buying it twice!

#45 3 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Tell me about it! Between Netflix, Hulu, Criterion Channel, and Amazon (I guess technically that's "Free"-ish), I'm paying about $45 for streaming services ON TOP OF cable (don't get me started). I wanted to cancel Disney+ after the initial free period once Mandalorian was over.. but I'm starting to think it's actually worth it. Damn it! Cable's about to get slashed...

Slash the cable.
I was initially going to ax Disney as well, but it just has too many good things to watch.

#46 3 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Just noticed you mentioned the LOTR 4ks - worth it? I think they have a bigger box coming out later this year. I was holding off, but for $50 I will get over buying it twice!

I think the 4K digital editions of Lord of the Rings and Hobbit extended trilogies are worth the upgrade over the Blu Ray's. The picture does look sharper versus the Blu Ray's but does lose some of the film grain look, almost as if digital noise reduction was applied. The color palette has also changed which I think makes the LOTR films look more vivid and not as washed out in some scenes. The big upgrade I like over the Blu Ray's is the additional of Dolby Vision HDR and Dolby Atmos. I recently setup a Dolby Atmos 5.2.1 setup in my basement and have been very impressed by it. It's also nice to never have to swap disks for the second half of the films and special features. The Lord of the Rings 4K trilogy was $25 on sale from Apple Movies and same with the Hobbit trilogy this past Christmas.

#47 3 years ago
Quoted from Betelgeuse:

Very nice. You and I have a lot of the same flix. I am envious of that Dellamorte Dellamore blu.

Standard German release. Missed out on the LE. I'm amazed no one has released it yet as far as I know. Wouldn't be surprised if Severin or Code Red does it.

I really dig Soavi's other films too. Aquarius (aka Deliria/Stagefright) is one of the best slashers I've seen and the Church is pretty rad too.

#48 3 years ago
Quoted from nate1981s:

Hi, What state are you in? If close I would be very interested in the LD's

York, PA.

#49 3 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

I'm still a Kodi guy, but I'm coming to a point where I need to rebuild the unit and just got a Pi 4 for that purpose, so I'm looking at Plex too. As a previous Kodi developer i'll probably stick with that but Plex is definitely making serious inroads!

Before Plex I was using SPMC which is just a fork of Kodi. Kodi is so customizable it can be overwhelming at times. Since you are a developer you obviously can get a lot more out of it then I ever could. I enjoy the simplicity of Plex since I just use it to watch my media collection. Plus since I have a Nvidia shield I can just run the Plex server off that.

One of my favorite features is being able to access Plex from any web browser to view and manage my collection. I can do it from my phone, laptop, desktop, etc. I'm sure you can do this with other programs beside Plex but for me it was really easy to setup.

#50 3 years ago

Anybody collect original 16mm or 35mm prints? I knew a few people who did and that shit was expensive even back in the day. I thought of going into and picking up some trailers, but then realized it wasn't worth it.

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