(Topic ID: 309167)

Photographing backglass for restoration

By dr_nybble

2 years ago


Topic Heartbeat

Topic Stats

  • 31 posts
  • 7 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 1 year ago by dr_nybble
  • Topic is favorited by 4 Pinsiders

You

Linked Games

No games have been linked to this topic.

    Topic Gallery

    View topic image gallery

    image (resized).jpg
    image (resized).jpg
    pasted_image (resized).png
    pasted_image (resized).png
    pasted_image (resized).png
    pasted_image (resized).png
    pasted_image (resized).png
    Grand Prix FINAL print this file (resized).jpg
    ex 2 before illustrator (resized).png
    raw scan ex 1 (resized).png
    raw scan ex 2 (resized).png
    ex 1 AFTER illustrator (resized).png
    ex 1 before illustrator (resized).png
    ex 2 AFTER illustrator (resized).png
    pasted_image (resized).png

    You're currently viewing posts by Pinsider dr_nybble.
    Click here to go back to viewing the entire thread.

    #1 2 years ago

    I'm working on a 1967 Chicago Coin "Bullseye Baseball" pitch & bat.

    I do have an HP 4670 scanner -- I'm assuming the glass thickness means that a scan would be somewhat out of focus. Is it enough to mean that scanning is not a good way to get the art to reproduce the glass?

    I don't think there is a Cruse scanner in my neck of the woods. I have a 24MP camera with a variety of lenses. I assume I can get an in-focus photo of the artwork this way. What are the considerations for working off a photo? I'm mostly thinking about any kind of distoration introduced by the lens, getting a squared up image.

    #3 2 years ago

    I'm all about lengthy & tedious! I can use my scanner if the results are satisfactory.

    #4 2 years ago

    The scan of the front glass looks pretty bad focus-wise; I'm going to try to photograph it instead.

    #7 2 years ago

    AI = Adobe Illustrator (auto-trace functionality).

    This would smooth out any "jaggies" from the work in Photoshop.

    I usually do all my art redraw in Inkscape since I am creating cutfiles for a vinyl cutter. It will be a different experience to work in bitmapped graphics for me, although I'll probably use Photoshop since I can't wrap my head around GIMP.

    #9 2 years ago

    I'm getting a local shop to scan the backglass for me. Seems like they have a scanner that can handle it including setting the focus. Cost is about $50US.

    1 week later
    #11 2 years ago

    Got my scan back and started working with Photoshop. Still lots to go through. Going well so far, work in progress:

    pasted_image (resized).pngpasted_image (resized).png

    #13 2 years ago

    Looking at the metadata for the image, it was actually taken with a Nikon D850 full frame camera. Looks like if you have a jazzy enough camera and the experience you can photograph it.

    Pretty much done with the front. I left the crowd basically untouched. Still not sure if I need to bucket fill the baseball players with "pure white".

    I'm going to work on the masking layer on the back next.

    pasted_image (resized).pngpasted_image (resized).png

    Original:

    pasted_image (resized).pngpasted_image (resized).png

    #14 2 years ago

    Masking layer in progress. I'm redrawing against the scan of the back for those areas where the image only exists in the mask. For the front graphics that are lit, I'll try to use the front graphic as the basis for it.

    pasted_image (resized).pngpasted_image (resized).png

    #15 2 years ago

    Back layer is done, here is what it looks like by adjusting the opacity of the colour layer so you can see where it will light up:

    pasted_image (resized).pngpasted_image (resized).png

    2 weeks later
    #17 2 years ago

    Getting it printed now, hopefully the colours turn out okay.

    CMYK can’t hit some of those screen printed colours.

    The photo was 320 DPI and taken with a 45MP camera.

    I used a cheap Wacom Intuos tablet for most of the work.

    1 week later
    #19 2 years ago

    Looks great, need to buy a piece of glass. Won't ever get 100% colour fidelity with CMYK versus screen printing but I think it looks pretty good.

    There is a protective cover on the front adhesive so I think the colours are even a bit better than they look on the front.

    image (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpg
    image (resized).jpgimage (resized).jpg

    #21 2 years ago

    Application instruction video:

    2 months later
    #23 1 year ago

    I used regular glass. Given how I've (sadly) seen photos of broken backglasses I don't think they are tempered.

    #26 1 year ago

    I fixed that in the copy I sent you….yeah that was dumb

    7 months later
    #29 1 year ago
    Quoted from RonSS:

    Looking at the masking and opacity picture. Will the batter light up when at bat or crossing home plate?

    Trying to scrape the black off the area where I had mis-masked it. It seems like it'll work, extremely slow job using an xacto blade and gently removing it. I think it'll be fine from the player's view.

    #31 1 year ago

    I'm not the first, eh?

    I'll try a hairdryer, I'd probably roast it with a heat gun.

    You're currently viewing posts by Pinsider dr_nybble.
    Click here to go back to viewing the entire thread.

    Reply

    Wanna join the discussion? Please sign in to reply to this topic.

    Hey there! Welcome to Pinside!

    Donate to Pinside

    Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run without any 3rd-party banners or ads, thanks to the support from our visitors? Please consider a donation to Pinside and get anext to your username to show for it! Or better yet, subscribe to Pinside+!


    This page was printed from https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/photographing-backglass-for-restoration?tu=dr_nybble and we tried optimising it for printing. Some page elements may have been deliberately hidden.

    Scan the QR code on the left to jump to the URL this document was printed from.