Petition for Stern Pinball to move QR reader from apron to coin door

OP
Quoted from pinmister:
How is a bright ass light coming from the coin door not in your face?

Seriously, what does this mean?

#64 2 years ago

ACE

acedanger

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Quoted from TheLaw:
Seriously, what does this mean?

It means this...

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#65 2 years ago

ROB

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Quoted from TheLaw:
Seriously, what does this mean?

It means you are bent over and your face is near the coin door. I guess.

#66 2 years ago

jeffro01

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Personally I wouldn't want a game with this on it and if I did buy one because I didn't have a choice I'd disconnect it and cover it with something useful or whatever. To me it should be optional entirely but I see all distros now, probably being forced by Stern, are shipping with this on any NIB game. The one poster who mentioned putting it on the coinbox so it was out of sight, out of mind, makes the most sense to me if you're forced to have it.

Jeff

#67 2 years ago

R M

PinFever

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Boca Raton, FL

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let's start a petition to drop the Node boards and go back to Whitestar please

#68 2 years ago

SMK

TheLaw

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OK so if people aren't familiar or haven't made up their mind; can you please point out the overly bright eyesore everyone is referring to?
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#69 2 years ago

SLT

Saltimbanco

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Quoted from TheLaw:
OK so if people aren't familiar or haven't made up their mind; can you please point out the overly bright eyesore everyone is referring to?

Buy those, you won't see that bluish eyesore no more. You're welcome!

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#70 2 years ago

JMS

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#71 2 years ago

JMS

swampfire

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Quoted from PinFever:
let's start a petition to drop the Node boards and go back to Whitestar please

Same energy

#72 2 years ago

JMS

swampfire

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Are we not gonna talk about the real elephant in the room? Nobody has quarters anymore, those are only good for springing the lock on a piggy bank full of more stupid quarters. Keep the QR scanner on the apron, put the DBA where the quarter slots were, and where the DBA is, put something that punches you in the junk whenever you start a stupid thread on Pinside (yes, yes, I would be vulnerable too but at least I would think twice).

#73 2 years ago

WLC

BMore-Pinball

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Quoted from TheLaw:
OK so if people aren't familiar or haven't made up their mind; can you please point out the overly bright eyesore everyone is referring to?
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Is it not coded to turn off once a game starts?

#74 2 years ago

ACE

acedanger

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Everyone here complains when Stern doesn't give them something new; then Stern provides something new & everyone still complains

#75 2 years ago

MTK

nocreditdot

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I find the QR reader to be completely useless in home use. I don't wanna admire my pinball achievements on my phone. That is what attract mode is for while drinking a beer. Would I like the QR reader to be an option from Stern? Yes. Do I expect them to do that? No.
I printed a small picture and placed it over the QR reader. It makes an excellent backlight. Problem solved. No more eyesore.

#76 2 years ago

ACE

acedanger

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Quoted from nocreditdot:
I find the QR reader to be completely useless in home use. I don't wanna admire my pinball achievements on my phone. That is what attract mode is for while drinking a beer. Would I like the QR reader to be an option from Stern? Yes. Do I expect them to do that? No.
I printed a small picture and placed it over the QR reader. It makes an excellent backlight. Problem solved. No more eyesore.

Dude they pop up on the LCD screen that you unlocked achievement you don't need to view on PC or phone...

#77 2 years ago

MWM

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Why do we need to be shown our achievements? Seems goofy to me

#78 2 years ago

III

TreyBo69

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Quoted from Hayfarmer:
Why do we need to be shown our achievements? Seems goofy to me

Because video game companies figured out almost 20 years ago people like the dopamine drip of achievements even when they're playing poorly. A sense of persistent progression hooks some people.

Stern is finally catching on, and just wait till Stern learns about microtransactions...

#79 2 years ago

FAT

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Quoted from Hayfarmer:
Why do we need to be shown our achievements? Seems goofy to me

Why do we need to be shown our scores? Seems goofy to me.
Why do we need to be show what mode we’re in? Seems goofy to me.
Why do we need to see how many credits are in the machine? Seems goofy to me.
Why do we need to see how many left outlane drains a machine’s had? Seems goofy to me.
Why do we need to hear the machine yelling at me that we’ve tilted? Seems goofy to me.

I’m starting to think we might not actually like pinball

#80 2 years ago

FAT

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Quoted from TreyBo69:
just wait till Stern learns about microtransactions...

You know that moment in planet of the pins where weir pinball discovers a giant quarter buried in the sand?

25 cents per-play is the OG microtransaction.

#81 2 years ago

MTK

nocreditdot

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Everything I need to see pops up in attract mode.

Quoted from acedanger:
Dude they pop up on the LCD screen that you unlocked achievement you don't need to view on PC or phone...

#82 2 years ago

RAP

RyanStl

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Quoted from Saltimbanco:
Oh God, I voted pizza - but, based on the results, I just can't see why people don't like pizza as much as I do. Someone find me a thread somewhere!

Like the DBA mod that already exists we also have a Pinside pizza thread already in existence.

#83 2 years ago

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DaveH

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OP
Quoted from pinmister:
Please vote honestly-inquiring minds want to know!

I voted honestly (move it to the coin door). However after seeing your mock up photo of it, I DEMAND a heater be installed with it. That way it can be a coin door coin purse warmer.

#84 2 years ago

MWM

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Quoted from KingVidiot:
Why do we need to be shown our scores? Seems goofy to me.
Why do we need to be show what mode we’re in? Seems goofy to me.
Why do we need to see how many credits are in the machine? Seems goofy to me.
Why do we need to see how many left outlane drains a machine’s had? Seems goofy to me.
Why do we need to hear the machine yelling at me that we’ve tilted? Seems goofy to me.
I’m starting to think we might not actually like pinball

I guess I'm not interested in a participation award for playing a game. Different generation I guess, and the reader is a damn eyesore on the aprons. Im fully in the o.p. camp of having it optional, although I know it never will be.

#85 2 years ago

JIM

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Quoted from Hayfarmer:
I guess I'm not interested in a participation award for playing a game. Different generation I guess, and the reader is a damn eyesore on the aprons. Im fully in the o.p. camp of having it optional, although I know it never will be.

I see everything I need to on my backbox display I must hate pinball.Doh

#86 2 years ago

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unclerudy

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South Lyon, MI

2y 55,300 433 2

I just think the sticker advertising insider connected on the head of the machine is ugly and a waste of space.

#87 2 years ago

SMK

TheLaw

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Quoted from Hayfarmer:
I guess I'm not interested in a participation award for playing a game. Different generation I guess...

Well this new generation doesn't even care aboot scores, just "The Journey" so its a confusing time

#88 2 years ago

MWM

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Quoted from TheLaw:
Well this new generation doesn't even care aboot scores, just "The Journey" so its a confusing time

Hey, I'm not knocking anyone. My preference is to not have it, I'd rather pay an upcharge for it if I desired. Which of course we are being charged for it already

#89 2 years ago

LDP

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Who wouldn't want a camera pointed right at their crotch!?

#90 2 years ago

JMS

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Quoted from unclerudy:
I just think the sticker advertising insider connected on the head of the machine is ugly and a waste of space.

It comes right off. I’ll put it on my refrigerator, and direct the IC newbies there to register.

#91 2 years ago

SMK

TheLaw

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Quoted from Lopa:
Who wouldn't want a camera pointed right at their crotch!?

Anyone under 50 has had a camera in the crotch for decades.

#92 2 years ago

TOM

PBFan

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10y 60,300 673

Not a single newb that comes to my place ever knows how to start an older game. A flashing button by your crotch doesn’t grab your attention from 6” away. However, they all punch the lockdown bar button on SW Premium to start a game no problem. Having the QR reader where it is easy to see and accessible is a no brainer but I do like the option of a kit to move it if you wish.

#93 2 years ago

zaki

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Aurora, OH

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Quoted from Hayfarmer:
Hey, I'm not knocking anyone. My preference is to not have it, I'd rather pay an upcharge for it if I desired. Which of course we are being charged for it already

Agree. I don't mind it, but dollars better towards toys and game parts

#94 2 years ago

MDW

Mark1971

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4y 54,050 236 1

I think Stern giving the option is a great idea making all games QR in the door is not. I do not like it on the apron, a conversion kit for every game would be yet another way for stern to make money!!!

#95 2 years ago

MIS

Lhyrgoif

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This thread is useless, Stern won't change something just because of a petition here.

Also, I like pizza.

#96 2 years ago

ROK

pinmister

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Pinball to me is more than just a game and a mechanical/engineering marvel

Pinball is also a work of art

I see the qr light on the apron ruining the look of the overall playfield/art scheme

So what is it that I want?

I really just want Stern to recognize that not everyone wants this feature located on the apron

So what can Stern do?

What I would like Stern to do is leave the aesthetic look of the apron alone. Have the games ship with normal graphics & normal instruction cards and give their loyal patrons an opportunity to make their own choice. Provide a kit that can be installed in either location or left off. Quit pushing this on everyone and make it an option. Allow owners and operators to also disconnect the feature in settings if they choose to do so(should not have to un-plug).

I also want to say God Bless America and being able to have the freedom to make choices
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#97 2 years ago

ROK

pinmister

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Quoted from jeffro01:
The one poster who mentioned putting it on the coinbox so it was out of sight, out of mind, makes the most sense to me if you're forced to have it.

Thank you Jeff appreciate the kind words and positive feedback

#98 2 years ago

ROK

pinmister

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Quoted from nocreditdot:
Would I like the QR reader to be an option from Stern? Yes

More and more pinsiders agree

#99 2 years ago

ROK

pinmister

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Quoted from DaveH:
I voted honestly (move it to the coin door)

Two thumbs up Dave

#100 2 years ago

ROK

pinmister

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