I saw somewhere in this thread that someone had done a mod where they have the game over light on their game light up when the game is over. Is there a how to on how to do this somewhere? I'd love to do this with Sunshine. The BG has a game over light and there's a drilled hole in the head.

As for personal touches, I like to add all new screws in the playfield, and have added a post or two here or there. I also usually unwrap pop bumper coils to give them some more zip. Kind of boring, but I haven't really given modding much thought before reading this thread. There's some awesome mad science going on here.

Awesome. Thank you. With the snow coming today, it looks like I have a project for the day!

Hi Wayne,

What do you want to say ?

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Trying to understand the force at the top end Andrew. On my Super Spin by the time the ball gets to the top it does not seem to have the velocity to go between the targets. I thought you may have been on hi tap or hi power flipper coils.

Ok Wayne,

No transformation, no diode bridges, no new coils on my Jet Spin, my transformer in only on "high" position !

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Hey Guys,

Magic City: I'm looking for ideas how to make this game more Gottlieb like rules wise. I don't like once "Magic-City" letters are all lit, there are no above flipper shots for increased points or specials. I'm looking for input on once all the Magic city letters are all lit what can be done to make it have the 'one more game' draw. For example, Change the C-I-T-Y shots to give 100 instead of 10, change center shot to special (I feel this would be too generous). Maybe hitting the alternating lit letter above the 'magic city' on the center of the PF will give a roaming special... ???? I really want to like this game more than I do.

I would say the best improvement would be to do the roving special for all the MAGIC CITY lights/Targets.

Its been a while since I played one but I am assuming the rollovers and targets are initially lit, while the name spell lights are off. And, as you get a letter, the rollover/target goes out and the associated lamp in the name lights up. If that is correct, I would also want to incorporate the lighting of the letter that would award special, not just the spotting arrow. In fact, now that spotting is over, I might also want to turn the arrow off.

Obviously, the spot arrow runs off the Match unit. So, you would have to look and see if you can find 10 unused rivets in a row that could be used to control the roving lamp. If so, you would add a switch to the special when lit relay to put power to the wiper and then have to run 10 wires to power the playfield letter lamps. Hopefully, you could pick those up at the trip bank (I assume there is a trip bank with a trip relay for each letter and star) where the switch goes from turning the roll over / target lamp off and feeds the name spell lamp instead. This should reduce wire length.

If the stepper for the match is up in the head (probably is for the bell striker), it sucks since you would need to run at least 10 wires down to the playfield where the trip bank or lamp sockets are. If it were on the playfield, it would be a lot easier but then they would have had to run 10 wires up to the head for the match lights. Right now, I cannot think of how you could re-use the arrow lights to power the roving letter lights without the use of 10 make/break switches fed via the special feature.

Of course, I may have guessed wrong on the spot arrow stepper being part of the match stepper. If I did, then it would be a much easier implementation. The easy way would be to do just as you suggested and just re-purpose the spot arrow as the special target indicator but Gottlieb certainly would have not done it that way (I don't think?).

Also, if you did not want to run this feature off of the existing stepper used for the spotting arrow, you could add a late model "mini" stepper like that used for match in later 70s games and mount it to the playfield. Then, you could decide on what score feature(s) you wanted to use to move the lamp if you didn't want to piggy back it off the "ADVANCE" labeled features. This approach would probably provide the least amount of mod-ing grief. One PCB would be used for lighting the roving lamp, while the other routed the target switch to the special scoring. Ugg, just realized that's 10 more wires unless there is score change related to the letter's trip bank switches. But still at least 20 wires to do the mod.

Thanks for the input. After reading about the roaming target and what it would take, that may be more than I would prefer to invest timewise. I like the idea of having an alternating relay with a special tied to the center shot. I don't believe there is an alternating relay but it could be added. Making the center shot juicy when lit. Thanks again for the feedback.

As Boatcat suggested, you could just tackle the center target and marry it to the Star for Special. This would mean it would only be lit 1 out of 10 advances. So, you WOULD have a chance at a special on the playfield and not just for a lost ball.

Tough part is whether there is a spare place with a wiper on the match unit that could be used to for converting the target scoring to special scoring. The light portion is already there via the arrow lamp.

See?

ATTENTION : It's a French transformer !

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Ok Andrew-on high not normal. That explains your top end velocity!!

anyone have a link to how someone made the "royal guard" guards "march on the bg"? i've been puzzling through the schematic, and i think i have it figured out, but would like to see how the other person did it...

I think it was displayed at the 2007 Pacific Pinball Expo. I recall seeing either pictures or a video of it, but can't spot it at the moment.

thanks df... like i said, i think i have it mostly worked out in my mind... now i need to take some time and put it down on paper and draw out the circuit to see if it really makes sense...

All my pinballs are in HIGH position and they are very fast !

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Then why is it speaking English?

That was the work of my friend Pete C. As I recall, all he did was do a custom assembly with 2 coils, one to pull it one way, one to pull it the other. Isn't that the way the spot targets switch back and forth anyway? I don't think there was any "circuit" involved, just the mechanics. I also think he had to move a stepper unit to make room for the workings.

If you PM me a specific question, I can forward it to him and ask and get back with the answer.

He also scanned, printed and cut out the soldiers legs. As I recall, he also added the Eskimo from North Star in the back drop artwork.

Because Gottlieb was an American company which exported in the world !

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"Why do you think I have this outrageous accent?"

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Great stuff!

Got this idea from this thread. Installed a 44 lamp under the saucer in my Strato-Flite. Came out great and really lights up what was normally a dark spot on the playfield.
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Modded my fireball to get rid of those plastic ends that hold the captive ball. I reshaped the plastics and fitted two posts with rings in front of them. They hold the ball perfectly, and it gets rid of the clear plastic that cracks / breaks / chips so it looks unsightly. My plastics were already broken and repaired, so I didn't alter good ones. This set up will last forever, looks much neater, and doesn't affect how the game plays. It's also easily put back to original as it doesn't involve any new holes.

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Looks nice!

I had a questions. I recently picked up a Spirit of 76'. It has white posts just like nick's fireball. I was thinking about swapping them out with some clear posts I have. Any opinions on how that would look?

http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=2293

can't hurt to try... be interesting to see what it would do to the lighting... might be cool...

OK, Here's a EM Mod question, this seems like the best place for it.

I picked up an Argosy. Normally the spinner is lit by an "alternating" cam driven off the match unit. The little beak on the coil is broke so it doesn't turn the cam. Over time previous owners have messed with it so the springs and switch are a bit mangled. If I manually close the switch the spinner does light.

That aside, having the spinner randomly turn on and off is kind of crappy. What I want to do is have the spinner light come on when the player gets double bonus by completing the target back and shooting the kickout hole.

The spinner is lit by the Change Relay. The double bonus is lit by the Double Bonus Relay.

Can I just jump the Double Bonus coil to the Change coil so they both are energized by the Double Bonus Relay?

Skill Pool got a topper.

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A small slab of oak, a few bits of brass rod, and some old balls from a yard sale.

Topper i put together for my Hot Shot.

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both pool theme toppers look great!
it is not easy to top an em and make it look good

I tried finding a miniature electrified female corpse for my C37....no go

Thanks you just have to keep it simple looking with EM's

I'm still looking for advice on this if anyone has any. Thanks!

Maybe re-post in EM Tech as its own thread?

On my Spanish Eyes I machined a bracket to support a 5" bell and a knocker assy. that mounts to the inner left side of the cabinet. That replaces the knocker assy. Then I modified a newer style knocker assy. and mounted it in the head. It uses a 4" bell I believe. That replaces the single chime bar. Now....three bells, it sounds great.

Any suggestions on how to make Special worth points instead of replay's?

That's a good idea. Specials are useless on free play and it takes effort to earn them, so why not add to the score? On my 4 Roses, the gobble holes can be advanced from 50 to 100 to 200 to 300 to SPECIAL. Since it is a free play game, advancing to SPECIAL actually hurts you, because you get NO points!!! Makes no sense.

I imagine the original designers would have made SPECIAL worth 500 points, in lieu of a free credit. I'll probably mod my machine to do this with an extra relay. Perhaps click up 500 points whenever the free game knocker hits.

Some pins did have operator settings
to choose between awarding
free play or extra ball for a special
or points when set to novelty play.

Okay... gotta another one on the 4 Roses I just recently shopped out.

Absolutely love the game but it's a really tough customer. Right now (if and when) you advance both gobble holes to special, the rotating center target lights for special (if you've hit the top rollover button). Not an easy feat as even going down the center rollover doesn't guarantee you'll hit this button.

And absolutely 'amazing' how the ball can be zooming by it... from all different directions and still not roll over the silly thing... I've never seen anything quite like it!!

But at any rate... when you finally get the four-way target lit for special... it goes out when you hit it and you have to try to shoot the ball back to the upper playfield and also try to get that rollover button again.

I want to modify the game so when you light the center target for special... it stays lit. Until the ball drains that is, then you would need to hit the button again but once you did, it would stay lit again for special until that ball drained and so on and so on.

I think this would be an improvement and don't believe you would win an unreasonable amount of games with this mod. You'd simply have a fairer chance for a 'breakout game' and also make it a lot more fun.

Not sure how hard this mod would be to do... but I'm apt to find out.

Hey Glen bring the schematic next Sat and we can look it over.

Will do.

Thanks, buddy!

We used to decide in advance that each replay earned would be, say, 100 points for that player. Then, at the end of the game, we would see how many replays were added to the replay meter, agreed as to which player(s) earned them, and then mentally add the replay points to the final score(s).

Anyone rigged up an "over the top" buzzer or bell on a wedgehead?